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leafsfan_101
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Canada
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Posted - 12/02/2007 :  17:30:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The Crosby is overrated thing is garbage. Th kid had 100+ in his first to years, was the MVP of his second year and is consistently in the top 5 in league scoring.

Crosby has no one to play with. Malkin isn't on his line. Staal isn't on his line. I think he has Recchi and some pylon. And he's still up in the top 5. Is that overrated to you??
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nashvillepreds
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Canada
1053 Posts

Posted - 12/02/2007 :  17:42:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
He has been on Malkin's line since maybe the first 5 games this season. There is now way Crosby is overated though.

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Alex
PickupHockey All-Star



Canada
2816 Posts

Posted - 12/02/2007 :  17:44:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Malkin is completed by Crosby, not the other way around.

Just look who gets all the assists! Last year it was Recchi finishing Crosby's plays, now it's Malkin. It could be anyone. Not that I'm knocking Malkin or Recchi's ability, but Crosby is the main guy, don't ever forget it!

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Jeremy12
Rookie



Canada
105 Posts

Posted - 12/02/2007 :  17:58:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
heres what crosby likes to do lol

[img]http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x49/Jeremy12_24/n1230930345_30307574_6961.jpg[/img]

[IMG]http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x49/Jeremy12_24/spezza_sig21.jpg[/IMG]
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Alex
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Canada
2816 Posts

Posted - 12/02/2007 :  18:01:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here's what Corsby likes to do

Pass -- GOAL
Pass -- GOAL
Pass -- GOAL

INterview: Mr. Crosby, to what do you attribute this great success?

(Modestly) to my teammates.

Rest of world: CROSBY IS AMAZING

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nashvillepreds
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Canada
1053 Posts

Posted - 12/02/2007 :  18:04:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Alex

Malkin is completed by Crosby, not the other way around.

Just look who gets all the assists! Last year it was Recchi finishing Crosby's plays, now it's Malkin. It could be anyone. Not that I'm knocking Malkin or Recchi's ability, but Crosby is the main guy, don't ever forget it!

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Not saying Malkin completes Crosby but now Crosby finally has somebody on his line that can finish off his plays instead of Armstrong or Recchi

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Alex
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Canada
2816 Posts

Posted - 12/02/2007 :  18:04:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ya. But he got 120 last season.

All you need is somebody who can skate and knows that the goal of the game it so take passes from Crosby and put them in the net.

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nashvillepreds
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Canada
1053 Posts

Posted - 12/02/2007 :  18:07:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Crosby was on his own last season. Savard was on his own last season. Malkin does help him though, it got him out of his little drought at the beginning of the season didn't it?

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Alex
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Canada
2816 Posts

Posted - 12/02/2007 :  18:09:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Nash, you're a numbers guy.

Savard is a point per game player this season. Crosby isnt gonna hit last years totals.

Crosby has Malkin. Savard has Sturm and Kessel.

The support isn't what makes them. I'm telling you. They'll still be where they were last yer. Their linemates will have more points than last year's, though.

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nashvillepreds
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Canada
1053 Posts

Posted - 12/02/2007 :  18:11:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Glad you figured that one out at least, I am a numbers guy.

Savrd only played with Kessel ha;f the season last year and same with Sturm.

Crosby might get about 110 points this season. Joe thornton challenged him last year after only having about 60 points after the all-star break.

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Alex
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Canada
2816 Posts

Posted - 12/02/2007 :  18:15:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes. Because Thronton produced when Cheechoo was able to finish off his plays. Perfect example of someone who needs support.

Where is he this year without Cheechoo?

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nashvillepreds
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Canada
1053 Posts

Posted - 12/02/2007 :  18:21:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
He's actually sitting at 28 points. Thornton was another guy who didn't play with the player you mentioned the whole season, he only played with him most of the first half and some of the second half.

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Alex
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Canada
2816 Posts

Posted - 12/02/2007 :  18:27:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
28
For someone who is supposed to be rivaling Crosby for the league lead in points. That is just above a PPG

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nashvillepreds
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Canada
1053 Posts

Posted - 12/02/2007 :  18:29:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
He was 12 points behind Crosby at the all-star break. Crosby isn't even in first! Crosby has to catch Lecavelier before Thornton can catch him.

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Alex
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Canada
2816 Posts

Posted - 12/02/2007 :  18:30:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm just saying

The point is everyone had him at number two. What number is he at?

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nashvillepreds
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Canada
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Posted - 12/02/2007 :  18:32:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
He's at 18 woah!

Crosby number 2 though, tied with Iginla and Kovalchuk.

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Edited by - nashvillepreds on 12/02/2007 18:32:46
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Alex
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Canada
2816 Posts

Posted - 12/02/2007 :  18:34:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Kovalchuk will slow down. Either him or Hossa, which will mean him. Not incredibly, but enough to give Crosby advantage.

Iggy will keep his pace in the long run. Crosby will exceed it.

I don't know if I'd put money on Vinny slowing down enough to give Crosby number one by season's end. He might surprise us.




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nashvillepreds
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Canada
1053 Posts

Posted - 12/03/2007 :  06:38:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Also, Thornton I belive is on a line with Michalek and Setoguchi right now.

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Alex
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Canada
2816 Posts

Posted - 12/03/2007 :  06:39:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Exactly why he isn't performing as well.

Nash, am I playing your team tonight?

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Posted - 12/03/2007 :  07:12:03  Reply with Quote
Pavel Bure.
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Posted - 12/03/2007 :  07:22:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
All - time most overrated: Larry Murphy

Can't remember if he's in the HOF yet or not, but yeah - soft, soft, soft. A bum, in my mind. Obviously he had skills back in the day - but WAY too overrated, IMO.
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Posted - 12/03/2007 :  08:13:11  Reply with Quote
Mats Sundin!!! by far!! and it doesn't help that he can do no wrong in the eyes of CBC play by play announcers either.
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nashvillepreds
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Canada
1053 Posts

Posted - 12/03/2007 :  12:15:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sundi is single-handedly carrying the maple leafs this season. Whenever they need a big goal, he either gets it or sets it up.

Can't say I agree that he's overated.

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nashvillepreds
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Canada
1053 Posts

Posted - 12/03/2007 :  12:20:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Alex, if you compare all the great scorers in the league to Thornton, they all ahev a great player playing beside them.

Kovalchuk- Hossa
Lecavelier- St. Louis and Prospal
Crosby- Malkin
Ovechkin- Nylander and Semin
Iginla- Tanguay
Zetterberg- Datsyuk
Alfredsson- Heatley
Sundin- Well, nobody
Mike Richards- Briere


Then Thornton- Setoguchi???????? Michalek???????

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Jeremy12
Rookie



Canada
105 Posts

Posted - 12/03/2007 :  14:17:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thorton always produce no matter who he is playing with

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nashvillepreds
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Canada
1053 Posts

Posted - 12/03/2007 :  14:19:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
He would produce btter though playing guys like Tanguay or Malkin, don't you think?

Ellis or Mason?

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Jeremy12
Rookie



Canada
105 Posts

Posted - 12/03/2007 :  14:21:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
of course he would
anyone would produce better with them

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nashvillepreds
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Canada
1053 Posts

Posted - 12/03/2007 :  14:44:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Would he be leading the league in points right now, do you think?

Ellis or Mason?

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Alex
PickupHockey All-Star



Canada
2816 Posts

Posted - 12/03/2007 :  14:54:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by nashvillepreds

Alex, if you compare all the great scorers in the league to Thornton, they all ahev a great player playing beside them.

Kovalchuk- Hossa
Lecavelier- St. Louis and Prospal
Crosby- Malkin
Ovechkin- Nylander and Semin
Iginla- Tanguay
Zetterberg- Datsyuk
Alfredsson- Heatley
Sundin- Well, nobody
Mike Richards- Briere


Then Thornton- Setoguchi???????? Michalek???????

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Isn't that exactly what I'm saying?!

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Alex
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Canada
2816 Posts

Posted - 12/03/2007 :  14:55:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jeremy12

of course he would
anyone would produce better with them

[IMG]http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x49/Jeremy12_24/spezza_sig21.jpg[/IMG]



28 points playing alongside guys fresh out of Junior? I have to disagree there my friend Jeremy.

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nashvillepreds
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Canada
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Posted - 12/03/2007 :  14:55:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ya, but as you said, I'm a stats guy.

Ellis or Mason?

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nashvillepreds
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Canada
1053 Posts

Posted - 12/03/2007 :  14:56:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
He's talking about my list btw, I think...

Ellis or Mason?

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Alex
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Canada
2816 Posts

Posted - 12/03/2007 :  14:58:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by nashvillepreds

Ya, but as you said, I'm a stats guy.

Ellis or Mason?

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OK... Well how about this stat?

Alex is gonna light up NashPreds tonight at hockey

Jokes. I might not even come... Probably will, we'll see.

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