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Beans15
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Posted - 01/06/2008 :  09:33:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Poll Question:
The Nash/Alex Award goes to the Best Rookie in the NHL.


Honorable Mentions go to (# of votes): No one?? Are you kidding me??




Choices:

Patrick Kane(13)
Jonathan Toews (10)
Nicklas Backstrom (3)
Tobias Enstrom (3)


Edited by - Beans15 on 01/06/2008 14:26:18

irvine
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Posted - 01/06/2008 :  16:37:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sigh, although American... Kane. :(

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Alex
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Posted - 01/06/2008 :  18:25:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
One of the featured articles on NHL.com says how the fanfare alone can win it for Kane. I would agree.

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Gostarsgo12
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Posted - 01/06/2008 :  19:04:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Obviously Kane but i also like Backstrom its just he has players to play with like oveckin, nylander which makes it better but i believe he could turn out 1 of the best playmakers in the league

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Alex
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Posted - 01/07/2008 :  15:00:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Toews won't win, he is going to be on the IR for 4 weeks.

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irvine
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Posted - 01/07/2008 :  16:04:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Toews is a great young player. It is a damn shame he has to have an injury, so early in to his career. Hopefully, it does not affect his future career.

But, I do believe Toews will have a good career in the NHL. (if he does not turn to be injury prone, as plenty have had happen in the past.)

Post 200.

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Alex
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Posted - 01/07/2008 :  17:08:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Do you agree that his hopes of winning the Calder are dead? And any thoughts on how it affects Kane?

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irvine
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Posted - 01/07/2008 :  23:01:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In my opinion, I don't feel it will end his hopes of winning the Calder. He is a great young player, injured or not. If he is back within 3-4 weeks, I still feel he has a shot at taking home the Calder. I do feel some people are slightly biased towards Kane, as he has more hype than Toews does seems to.

But, Toews seems to be more the goal scorer of the two, and Kane more of the setup man.

At time of post:
Kane: GP: 41 G: 9 A: 30 P: 39 (-4)
Toews: GP: 36 G: 15 A: 17 P: 32 (+5)

He's not far behind in points, and has played 5 fewer games. Even missing 3-4 more weeks, this gives Kane even more of a chance to gain points on Toews, but in my opinion Toews to date has played just as well as Kane. Maybe even slightly better.

I'd still give him the chance for the Calder. But I guess that's just me.

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irvine
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Posted - 01/07/2008 :  23:10:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ah, right.

I do believe it will affect Kane, during the times when Toews would have been on his line.

Kane seems to like setting up Towes, for goals. (and vise versa, a bit.)

I think we will see Kane's assists not going up as quickly. I'm thinking if Toews misses let's say 10 games... we'll see Kane only put up around 3-4 points.

Of course, I could be totally off. Just my thoughts.

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Alex
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Posted - 01/08/2008 :  15:34:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
OK but seriously, before this even happened it was Kane over Toews. Before they even stepped foot on the ice. Not by performance, by public opinion. They hype does a lot. Realistically, most of us thought Kane would win.

Without Toews, I am asking, do you think someone on ANOTHER team can zero in on the both of them? Gagner pehaps?

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irvine
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Posted - 01/08/2008 :  16:42:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If I had to choose someone who may zero in on them, i'd choose Backstrom (forward.)

Although, I like Cogliano and Gagner. I don't think they will be finishing top in the league in points by rookies - or as the best rookie in the league by years end.

My top 10 rookies this season, in order: (Forwards/Defense only.)

1. Kane
2. Toews
3. Backstrom
4. Cogliano
5. Enstrom
6. Gagner
7. Mueller
8. Hanzal
9. Niskanen
10. Chipchura

I am sure plenty will disagree, but that's fine.

So to answer your question, the only two i feel will have a chance to pass Toews, will be Backstrom and perhaps Enstrom. I don't feel they will pass Kane though.


Irvine

Edited by - irvine on 01/08/2008 16:44:53
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PainTrain
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Posted - 01/08/2008 :  17:08:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I always would prefer to see a defenceman win the Calder. That's why I said Tobias Engstrom. He is a +8 on a so so team. He is logging on around 23:00 minutes a game. And he's staying out of the box.

Edited by - PainTrain on 01/08/2008 19:58:31
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irvine
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Posted - 01/08/2008 :  18:33:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PainTrain

I always would prefer to see a defenceman win the Calder. That's why I said Tobias Engstrom. He is a +8 on a so so team. He is logging on around 23:00 minutes a game. And he staying out of the box.



Indeed. Great start for Enstrom.

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nashvillepreds
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Posted - 01/12/2008 :  07:14:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Kane no doubt about it.

Ellis or Mason?

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Posted - 01/16/2008 :  10:53:14  Reply with Quote
hey....where's cogliano?
he's great also
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nashvillepreds
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Posted - 01/16/2008 :  16:15:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
He just doesn't compare.

Oh, and by the way Beans, you spelled my name wrong

Ellis or Mason?

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Edited by - nashvillepreds on 01/16/2008 16:15:40
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hockster
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Posted - 01/16/2008 :  18:36:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
edmonton and hicago rookies get all the attention gange is going to the young stas game with 3 goals quietly there are many good rookie seasons
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Posted - 01/18/2008 :  11:58:54  Reply with Quote
I think the best rookie has to be Tobias Enstrom -despite the fact that most people don't know how good he is playing. (myself included -I just looked up the statistics)

Keep in mind that he is a DEFENSEMEN!!
25 shifts per game
24 minutes per game
28 points -which is good for 12th place in the league among all defensemen and ahead of redden, visnovsky, timmonen, and blake.

(kane is in 35th place among forwards)
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Leafsfan_94
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Posted - 01/19/2008 :  20:00:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
kane no doubt, u shude of added toews to that list or i would of picked him

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MSC
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Posted - 01/19/2008 :  20:35:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
yo dog u shood reed a lil clozer up in da poll knowhutumsayin cause ma boy toews wuz already up in dere.

peace out fo sheesy

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Leafsfan_94
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Posted - 01/19/2008 :  21:08:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
whoops srry
did not c i feel like a idiot toews is my vote

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nashvillepreds
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Posted - 01/23/2008 :  14:34:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What on earth are you saying? I understand every other word.

Ellis or Mason?

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Alex
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Posted - 01/23/2008 :  15:03:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Do us all a favour and use spell check please? Just an idea. Or maybe, try getting a first grader to proof read for you, Leafs Fan.

It's all in good fun, no personal attacks being launched.

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Leafsfan_94
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Posted - 01/24/2008 :  19:15:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i didnt read the polls questions right and i didnt see toews but i saw kane so i picked him but then MSC told me he was on there so i changed my mind get it

and by the way

its ok alex i get that alot

lol


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Alex
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Posted - 01/24/2008 :  19:33:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Try listening to it then, LF94?

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Leafsfan_94
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Posted - 01/24/2008 :  19:35:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
too lazy lol

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Posted - 01/28/2008 :  16:07:42  Reply with Quote
you also don't use punctuation its terrible


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