With the trade deadline fast approaching, I got to thinking about trades made in years past.
I realized that while most trades make sense for all parties involved, however there have been some pretty lopsided ones over the years.
The first one that comes to mind is Ottawa trading Alexei Yashin to the Islanders for Zdeno Chara, Bill Muckalt, & their 2001 1st round pick (Jason Spezza).
Imagine where the Islanders would be with both Chara and Spezza in their lineup?
Go Wings Go!
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Posted - 01/15/2008 : 10:26:11
obviously, its the thornton trade that sent Sturm, Stuart and Wayne Primeau. 2 of the players that Boston picked up dont even play there anymore and Thornton has picked up an Art Ross, Hart, two seasons with 90+ assists and 2 straight entrances into the NHL playoffs.
WORST trade in history
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Posted - 01/15/2008 : 11:46:42
quote:Originally posted by Guest4912
obviously, its the thornton trade that sent Sturm, Stuart and Wayne Primeau. 2 of the players that Boston picked up dont even play there anymore and Thornton has picked up an Art Ross, Hart, two seasons with 90+ assists and 2 straight entrances into the NHL playoffs.
WORST trade in history
That was a bad trade but worst trade in history??? Slight exaggeration considering the Lindros trade, the Guy Lafleur trade, the Luongo trade.
Boston has been making some terrible trades of late. I mean Boyes for Widerman? Not to mention Jumbo Joe's trade.
How about Tkachuk or Forsberg trade last year? Terrible price to pay for these rentals.
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Posted - 01/15/2008 : 12:27:46
Leafs send their first round pick (Scott Neidermayer) for Tom Kurvers or sending the pick that ending up being Mike Cammaleri to LA for AKi Berg
On March 13 1996 Wendel Clark, Mathieu Schneider, and D.J. Smith from the NY Islanders for Kenny Jonsson, Darby Hendrickson, Sean Haggarty, and the Leafs’ 1st round selection in 1997 (Roberto Luongo)...
Of coarse you know that this means war! - - Bugs Bunny
There are so many factors that one might considered when evaluating a trade. Only time will tell. Sometimes the trade works out great, others don't work so well. Hindsight is always 20/20
Here's another to consider. Eric Brewer, Doug Lynch, and Jeff Woywitka for Chris Pronger. Good Trade???
Then, consider Pronger for Lupul, Smid, 2-1st round picks, and a 2nd round pick. Is that a good Trade?
Then, look at Lupul and Smith for Pitkanen and Sanderson. Good Trade??
Then look at 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round picks for Penner in an offer sheet.
In the end, if you look through all of this, it's hard to see if any of these are a good trade. However, consider this:
From the Oilers: Smith Brewer 2 Weak Prospects 3rd round draft pick
To the Oilers: Penner Smid PItkanen Sanderson 1st round draft pick
If that was the way it played out in one trade, Lowe would look like a God.
My point, rarely if ever is one trade stand alone. It is normally part of a plan of a GM.
How about back in 1989 when the Leafs traded Russ Courtnall for John Kordic?
Go Wings Go!
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Posted - 01/17/2008 : 08:02:45
(Trades as of late) 1.Thornton 2.Luongo 3.Pronger-Lupul trade
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Posted - 01/17/2008 : 09:02:34
Toronto sending Russ Courtnall to the Habs for John Kordic would be the worst trade I can think of for the Leafs anyhow.
I don't like getting into trading draft picks for players however because hindsight is ...
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Posted - 01/17/2008 : 10:07:55
i know he didint do that good with the oilers but i think they should of hang on to conklin a little longer with his resent victories its pretty obvious hes ready to play
Conklin?? Seriously?? The same Conklin who had 30 wins in the previous 5 seasons combined?? The same guy who has play more games in the AHL than the NHL in those 5 years?? The same guy who given up on by 3 other teams before he gets hot with the Pens??
Conklin was a complete waste in Edmonton. It was a good day when he left the Oilers.
One of the most interesting trades that have occurred in the recent past was the one that sent Joe Nieuwendyk to the Dallas Stars. They made the decision that short-term gain was at least equal to long-term potential. And it worked! They won the cup that year! Was it worth it, though,for what they gave up?
Well as much as I hate to say it, Dallas did the right thing. They might have had some better teams, no question, but from a hockey sense, they haven't been bad since 2000.
And I dont think we realize how much it does to win a cup in Texas where there is not such a big market. You should hear Ron Francis speak on the aftermath of their (Carolina) cup run in 03 versus that of the cup in 06.
Going far and not winning it all does not come close to winning it all. It is a whole new level.
Sure, the Stars may have won two times by now. But they wanted to cash in then, they wanted to keep the market fresh, and they did. I think it was smart in every way other than from a hindsight perspective which GMs do not have.
Barry Pederson from Boston to Vancouver for Cam Heely...OUCH!!!
The thing about this trade that makes it so smart is that Barry Pederson actually was a VERY GOOD player.
Guys, read this, particularly the part about Pederson being on par with those HHOFers in the early part of his career. He's a pretty interesting story actually.
Back to my point. You have to give Sinden A LOT of credit on this one. Bs fans actually weren't too happy about this trade. I remember, as a big Bs fans myself (did you know that about me?), a lot of us were hoping Barry could refind his pre-illness form, and we were actually not so keen on Neely after his so-so start in Vancouver. I don't know if it is the most lopsided trade ever, but it ranks very high in terms of both smarts and guts.
Edited by - andyhack on 01/17/2008 18:23:30
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Posted - 01/17/2008 : 19:15:25
correction. barry pederson for cam neely and a draft pick- glen wesley
Ah yes, forgot about the draft pick that turned into Wesley. I had Barry Pederson on my pool team at one time. Yes, he was avery good player at one time but the wheels definitely fell off and I think Harry Sinden must have had a cyrstal ball or something? His real interest was probably the draft pick and low and behold Cam Neely turned into a Hall Of Famer!!!!!
New York Islanders traded Olli Jokien and Roberto Luongo to the Florida Panthers for Mark Parrish and Oleg Kvasha. i think thats one of the more lop sided trades......even though luongo is in vancouver at that time he was a highly rated goalie and right now oli is the captain and has had numerous strong seasons.....i say thats one of the worst trades ....for new york lol
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Posted - 01/18/2008 : 11:50:55
i know it was a great day when he left i celebrated more than anyone but im just saying maybe the media shouldnt of made such a big deal about it then he wasent that old he was pretty new yet he just had to find his legs i think
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Posted - 01/18/2008 : 13:31:06
1. Desjardins, LeClair and Dionne (Montreal) for Recchi and a 3rd Round pick (Philly) 2. Hasek (Chicago) for minor league goalie and late pick (Buffalo) 3. Thornton (Boston) to San Jose for Sturm, Primeau and Stuart (San Jose)
But the shrewdest of them all....Sam Pollock trading Ralph Backstrom to LA to ensure LA would not finish last overall, and assuring the Habs they would get Guy Lafleur with Oakland's first pick.
Patrick Roy's trade to Colorado has to be one of the most lopsided trades ever.
And just to put it out there, what does everyone think of the Great One's original trade back in 1989?
TO LA: Gretzky McSorley Krushelnyski
To the Oil:
Jimmy Carson Martin Gélinas three first round draft picks 1989 - Jason Soules 1991 - Tyler Wright / Martin Rucinsky 1993 - Jason Arnott / Nick Stajduhar and cash (15$ million)
* two names for 91 and 93 since I'm not sure which pick was originally LA's.
I just thought of another one. In 1993, the Winnipeg Jets traded Kris Draper to Detroit for $1. Yes, One dollar.
A couple more years and Draper will have played 1000 games, won an olympic gold medal, and became one of the best penalty killers in the league.
Go Wings Go!
You have to give me the link to that story! Guys I don't know why that is so surprising considering Manhattan was handed over from the Natives for a couple of bracelets...
Habs get number 25 this year
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Posted - 01/26/2008 : 16:05:08
Also Cy Young, To all you baseball fans. Was traded for a SUIT! Arguably the best pitcher ever to pitch was trade for a measly suit.
Drafted 62nd overall in the 1989 Draft by the Winnipeg Jets, Draper did not see much action in his early years. He is a rarity in that he played in the AHL and NHL before playing junior in the Ontario Hockey League. After playing just 20 games in the 4 seasons since he was drafted, he was traded to Detroit in 1993 for a dollar. Draper would quickly become a valuable fixture in Detroit's rotation.
The 1975-1976 season has ended. The Bruins trade once high scoring winger, Ken Hodge, to the Rangers for the then underperforming Rick Middleton.
From 1976 on Middleton put up a couple of 100 point seasons, three ninety point seasons and some other good seasons, and Cherry even got him to play well defensively.
Hodge? Well here's what they say at Legends of Hockey,
"That trade proved to be one of the most lopsided in NHL history. Hodge played just 96 more games in the NHL, while the Bruins received a young Rick Middleton, who would star with the team for over a decade to come."
Here are the 96 games:
1976-77 New York Rangers NHL 78 21 41 62 1977-78 New York Rangers NHL 18 2 4 6
Say what you will about Harry Sinden later on (and there is room for criticism), he has three or four absolutely brilliant moves on his resume.
What about that 10 player deal between Calgary and Toronto back in the early nineties. Toronto got Gilmour, Macoun, Godynuk, Walmsley, and Manderville (I think) for Leeman, Reese, Petit and that's all I can remember. I couldn't believe it. It was as bad a trade as you would see in fantasy hockey where one guy is giving up.
Many of those other terrible trades involved draft picks that developed into major stars, or prospects that weren't figuring into their current teams' plans. But this one was outright egregious the minute it was revealed. I will never forget it!
Worst Trades Ever! 
Posted - 01/15/2008 : 10:01:39
), a lot of us were hoping Barry could refind his pre-illness form, and we were actually not so keen on Neely after his so-so start in Vancouver. I don't know if it is the most lopsided trade ever, but it ranks very high in terms of both smarts and guts.
