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habsfanforlife
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Posted - 04/12/2008 :  12:06:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm surprised no one has mentioned the Chris Chelios for a washed up Denis Savard trade in 1990. It was one of the biggest bonehead trades in a line line by Serge Savard and Ronald Corey. Rumour was Chelios was banging Corey's wife so they wanted him out of Montreal and fast.
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habsfanforlife
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Posted - 04/12/2008 :  12:07:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Alex

I couldn't find the story ... maybe want to copy and paste it? It could be that I am a sped. reader

Habs get number 25 this year



Only 15 more to go....

Go Habs Go!
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Posted - 11/16/2008 :  06:09:16  Reply with Quote
August 9, 1988 – Wayne Gretzky traded by the Edmonton Oilers, along with Mike Krushelnyski and Marty McSorley, to the Los Angeles Kings in exchange for Jimmy Carson, Martin Gelinas, Los Angeles's 1989, 1991, and 1993 first round draft choices, and cash.

The Rest of Gretzky's career:

311 Goals
877 Assists
1188 points

To put 1188 points into perspective would put him ahead of Teemu Selanne’s career total of 1176.

Lemieux during the same period had

398 goals
580 assists
978 points

If asked you who the two best players were during that time you'd say Gretzky and Lemieux.....don't lie! Yes I know Lemieux had cancer, retired, had a bad back but I can't help any of that.

FYI Gelinas went on to score 660 career points total, Carson had 561 points career total. The draft pick ended up being Jason miller, Martin Rucinsky (612 points) and nick Stajduhar.

Don't forget that LA also got McSorely (3381 PIM) a good 20 points per year d-man and Krushelnyski had 699 points!

I went nuts and gave you the career totals but if I focussed only on the first 4 years after the trade:

168, 142,163, 121 points each year respectively! Come on! 594 points is about as good as any of the other guys involved had their entire careers let alone 4 years!

The impact was huge. If they had a goalie in LA they would have won cups but the truth is Hrudy sucked, hard.

Give me the best forward all time for the best trade all time!
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Posted - 11/16/2008 :  09:59:11  Reply with Quote
Naslund to vancouver, Stojanov to Pittsburgh.

Pretty bad trade.

At the time it looked OK but how about the Hartford/Pittsburgh deal in 90? Cullen was the man then but look at Pittsburghs return in Francis.
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Posted - 11/16/2008 :  10:11:59  Reply with Quote
K now we are just repeating trades that were already mentioned.

This one was mentioned but not in detail:

In the 1997-98 season, the Islanders Todd Bertuzzi was packaged with Bryan McCabe to the Vancouver Canucks in exchange for Trevor Linden and a third round draft choice in 1998 (Jarkko Ruutu).

On November 10, 2001, the Capitals traded Linden (who was traded from the Islanders to the Habs, then to the Capitals) with a second round draft pick in either 2002 or 2003 (Denis Grot) to the Canucks for their first round pick in 2002 (Boyd Gordon) and a third round pick in 2003.

The Islanders are the Pawn Shop of the NHL lol...
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Posted - 11/16/2008 :  11:16:56  Reply with Quote
[b]This was one of the worst trades I have ever seen....On March 5, 2003 the San Jose Sharks traded Owen Nolan to the Toronto Maple Leafs for Alyn McCauley Brad Boyes and a 1st round draft choice in 2003...The first round draft choice, 16th overall in 2003 was used by the San Jose Sharks to select 6'2" 233 lb power forward Steve Bernier. It's very hard to watch Boyes play so well now [/b]
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Posted - 11/16/2008 :  18:40:36  Reply with Quote
Rob Ramage and Rick Wamsley to Calgary for Brett Hull and Steve Bozek. The following 6 years after the trade Hull puts up 360+ goals, Hart and a Pearson. Don't recall Bozek ever achieving much.

Wamsley backed up Vernon fo Flames Stanley cup. Ramage would be at best a journeyman defender.
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Posted - 11/17/2008 :  14:07:48  Reply with Quote
I think the Toronto trade to get Sundin and Butcher was one of the worst trades made by the leafs. But there is alot of those i guess
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MSC
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Canada
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Posted - 11/17/2008 :  14:25:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
For starters the Indianapolis Racers trading Gretzkey and two other players for cash in 1978 has to be up there.

Montreal traded Robert Picard for Winnipeg's third round pick in 1984...the pick turned into Pat Roy.

Toronto traded their 1989 first round pick to the Devils for Tom Kurvers....the pick turned into Scott Neidermeyer.

the Ilanders sent Luongo and Jokinen to Florida for Mark Parrish and Oleg Kvasha

Not a trade BUT the Flames placed St. Louis on waivers and was then picked up by the Bolts.

Any trade involving Jagr.



Edited by - MSC on 11/17/2008 14:43:54
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Beans15
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Posted - 11/17/2008 :  15:10:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You know what is really interesting about this, the difference between the best trade and the worst trade is perspective and nothing else. To some, the trade for Gretzky for cash and a couple of pylons was the worst ever. To me, it was absolute genius!

The best trades ever to me are the ones where no one really loses or wins, but both teams improve. They are very rare, but they do happen. I think of one that some might disagree with is Thornton for Sturm, Stuart and Primeau. Primeau and Stuart were then traded to Calgary for Kobasew and Ferrance. So, the Sharks received a superstar and Boston received 3 quality players that ultimately are as productive as Thorton (combined) and fill 3 roster spots for virtually the same money as Thornton is getting. This gave Boston the opportunity to use money for other players.In the end, I don't think either team won or lost that trade. Both effectively achieved what they intented to and both teams are better for it.

The other thing that is interesting is that most often, a trade can not be evaluted based on the specific players involved as much as they can be view by what the team does with them. For example, most people would think that the Oilers got hosed when Pronger demanded a trade. However, looking back effective the Oilers traded Eric Brewer, Jeff Woyitka, and Doug Lynch for Pronger. The Oilers then trade Pronger for Joffery Lupul, Ladislav Smid, 2-1st round picks, and a 2nd round pick. Then, the Oilers trade Lupul and Jason Smith for for PItkanen and Sanderson. Then Pitkanen for Erik Cole. So, in the end, the Oilers parlayed Eric Brewer, Jason Smith, and 2 guys who will never see any kind of NHL ice surface unless they are driving the zamboni, for Erik Cole, Ladislav Smid, 2-1st round and a 2nd round draft pick.

How bad is that trade now??? Looks pretty good to me.
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Posted - 10/18/2010 :  16:46:26  Reply with Quote
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A good trade for Toronto would be getting Mats Sundin and Garth Butcher for Wendel Clark, Todd Warriner and Slyvain Lefebre.


Only one in a never ending series of awfull trade made by colorado:(
I love the AV's but I really hate the direction, they took an awesome team and traded it to the ground, then kept trading until they were miles under ground, hopefully the youngsters they got now can lift it back to ground level.....if they dont go and trade Duchesne,Statsny, Stewart, Anderson and Yip for some limp noodle which is what they will probably do.
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Posted - 10/18/2010 :  19:39:52  Reply with Quote
no question, the top three worst trades are, in order:

1. chicago trades PHIL ESPOSITO, FRED STANFIELD and KEN HODGE to boston for PIT MARTIN, JACK NORRIS AND GILL MAROTTE. . .

2. vancouver trades CAM NEELY to boston for BARRY PEDERSON and a 1st round pick (GLEN WESLEY). . .

3. philadelphia trade CHRIS SIMON, MIKE RICCI, KERRY HUFFMAN, RON HEXTALL, STEVE DUSCHESNE, PETER FORSBERG and 1st round pick 1993 (ADAM DEADMARSH), 1st round pick 1994 (WADE BELAK), future considerations and cash to the Quebec Nordiques for ERIC LINDROS
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Posted - 10/19/2010 :  19:07:25  Reply with Quote
Yes Draper did get traded from winnipeg to detroit for a buck, Im from winnipeg and my dad talks about it all the time
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