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Guest4912
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Posted - 01/23/2008 :  14:08:19  Reply with Quote
Poll Question:
Who's going to be the next franchise player in the NHL

Choices:

John Tavares
Stevie Stamkos
Karl Alzner
Carey Price
Kyle Turris
Pat Kane
Johnathan Toews
Other (who?)

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Posted - 01/23/2008 :  14:09:09  Reply with Quote
All of these players are candidates and most will end up being franchise players, explain why
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nashvillepreds
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Posted - 01/23/2008 :  14:25:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Kane is already a franchise player. That's mostly why I picked him. also, If somebody doesn't think he's already at that level, he definitely will be in the future.

Ellis or Mason?

Go Preds Go!
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Alex
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Posted - 01/23/2008 :  15:01:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You want proof Nash? Look at Chicago last year vs. this year.

That being said, they also have Toews, and guys are stepping up, i.e. Keith, Sharp and Lang. But yet, they have played well, we owe Kane a lot of the credit. A good solid first round draft choice.

Habs get number 25 this year
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nashvillepreds
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Posted - 01/23/2008 :  15:01:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was refering to beans actually when he said only the top 30 players are franchise players. I agree, he did turn their franchise around.

Ellis or Mason?

Go Preds Go!
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Datsyuk 1
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Posted - 02/17/2008 :  00:44:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You should have like Gagner and Cogliano on that list they will be franchise players.
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Alex
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Posted - 02/17/2008 :  05:09:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I also like Price, but I think that Montreal will never really have a ''franchise player'' per say. People say that they would drop without Kovalev, but you know what, they are the deepest scoring team in the league, have stellar defense, a killer special teams..

It really is what it is called: a team.

I don't expect many ''franchise players,'' in the way we have come to understand the word, on Montreal.

Habs get number 25 this year
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leafsfan_101
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Posted - 02/17/2008 :  05:50:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Alex

I also like Price, but I think that Montreal will never really have a ''franchise player'' per say. People say that they would drop without Kovalev, but you know what, they are the deepest scoring team in the league, have stellar defense, a killer special teams..

It really is what it is called: a team.

I don't expect many ''franchise players,'' in the way we have come to understand the word, on Montreal.

Habs get number 25 this year


Alex, you don't think that Price will be a frachise player. He is their best prospect and the best young, up-and-coming goalie. I think he can be said as the future, and as the franchise player of that team. Without a doubt.
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Antroman
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Posted - 02/17/2008 :  09:17:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What Is The Definition Of A Fanchise Player? Can a star player such as Heatley be a franchise player. I thought a franchise guy would be somebody like Ovechkin, Crosby or Yzerman etc. A star player might be a Kovolev, Hossa or a Briere. Is there an actual definition somewhere or is it pure conjecture. I know Sundin is the Leaf's leader and best player but is he a franchise player by definition?
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Alex
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Posted - 02/17/2008 :  11:50:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
While Sundin is a franchise player, Briere is not. You must be nearly synonomous with a franchise to be a franchise player.

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Axey
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Posted - 02/17/2008 :  15:45:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i like gagner, and what about mueller ... in 5 years mark my words ...also hemsky could be one. and about price he very well could be one, with just him in goal and a little help from the kostitsyn bros i like my chances at a cup soon.
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Beans15
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Posted - 02/17/2008 :  23:09:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The way I define a franchise player has nothing to do with the players association with a specific team. To me, a franchise player is firstly, one of the top players at their position in the league and could be argued as one of the top 20-30 players in the entire NHL.Secondly, they are a player that a team can be built around. He is the key piece of the puzzle that makes the team what they are.

For example, Roberto Luongo is a franchise player. He was a franchise player with Florida and became the franchise player in Vancouver immediately. Same with Joe Thornton when he left Beantown for the Sunshine State. I also think it's a misconception that a Franchise Player has to be young. Norris Nick Lidstrom is a franchise player and he's 38 years old. Alfredsson is a franchise player at 36 as well.

That being said, using my personal definition of a franchise player, I don't see a single player on this list a player I would build a team around. The closest thing would be Toews as I think the guy has a competative spirit that few have. Rarely is a draft pick or rookie a franchise player. In fact, in the past 20 years (Back to 1988) there are only 8-#1 draft picks I would have built a team around. That's a pretty poor number.
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