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Guest9864
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 Posted - 01/26/2008 : 19:30:05
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Poll Question:
IF MATS SUNDIN DOES GET TRADED, WHAT TEAM WILL HE GO TO?
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Leafsfan_94
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Posted - 01/26/2008 : 19:31:03
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nowere he will retire
>>>Go Leafs Go<<<
Wings 4 Da Cup
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Alex
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Posted - 01/26/2008 : 20:15:39
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Have the dignity to spell his name right Guest. It is Mats. He has done enough that he deserves that respect.
And I do not see any buyers for him realistically. T.O. is his home, unless some quick moves are made by competitive playoff contenders, which I doubt. Time is of essence boys.
Habs get number 25 this year |
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MarkhamMax
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Posted - 01/26/2008 : 21:24:31
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Well he sure as hell isn't going anywhere in the east. Suggesting Ottawa and Montreal is grounds to have you stripped searched for crack use.
I personally think he'll choose to stay put. He is a rare "team player" and Mats has made it very clear his dream is to win it with Toronto - or not at all. Helping another team win is not what he wants.
He may agree to waive his no-trade clause at the urging of Leafs management if he feels the Leafs can benefit from a short term trade that will guarantee his return at the beginning of 08-09.
If that turns out to be he case it'll be a Western conference team.
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Antroman
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Posted - 01/26/2008 : 21:57:23
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| Markam Max........I definitely agree with you on this post. Personally, I really want him to stay but he will bring a decent return if they trade him. I believe he signed a one year deal this past season because he is contemplating retirement. I believe he wanted to see how he felt after this season passes. Maybe it is time to call it a career and I'm sure this season, with the team losing again, has been very disappointing for him. Alot of the European players do not get as jacked up about winning the Stanley because their biggest trophy is The World Cup. Sweden has won that and he captained the team. Other than wanting to bring a Stanley to Toronto for the long suffering Leaf fans that have supported him over the years, he has no desire to help anyone else win it because it is not that important to him. He has as good as said that on numerous occasions and I believe him. |
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Leafs Rock Planet
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Posted - 01/27/2008 : 04:16:10
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I also really want him to stay on the Leafs. He is the heart and sole of the Leafs franchise right now and he would not look right in another teams jersey.
If he was to go to a team this year though the obvious choice for me would be for him to go to Vancouver. Theres just to much of a Sweedish connection there for him to not waive his NTC.
Im sure he wouldnt mind going to a team that included a lot of Swedes like Naslund, The Sedin twins, and Mathias Ohlund.
But for now, I still say that Mats Sundin will be in a Leafs jersey untill at least the end of the year. |
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PainTrain
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Posted - 01/27/2008 : 08:09:22
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| Just a reminder to you guys. He has a no trade clause. He has to waive that before he can even get traded. |
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Antroman
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Posted - 01/27/2008 : 19:07:13
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| Alfresson was quoted as saying, "I would like to see Matts here in Ottawa". He also said in as many words that he would be a perfect fit. I can't see him going to one of the Leaf's most hated rivals though. |
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Alex
PickupHockey All-Star
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Posted - 01/27/2008 : 20:06:50
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I think that Sundin on Ottawa is actually quite smart. Ottawa needs that type of player to make them just the for sure winners, they have some contract problems and need to get it done this year.
Where would Sundin go? My thoughts are if I am the head coach, second liner. Leave Alfie-Spezza-Heatley to work their magic and let Mats fill the role that they give to Alfie when they try and break up the lines. This would make the team invincible.
Habs get number 25 this year |
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Antroman
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Posted - 01/28/2008 : 08:23:44
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| Invincable- Insminsable Alex. They might score a little more but in the playoffs defense is first and Ottawa has a problem in that regard unless they can get the whole team on the same page? If Mats does go there I might have to sort of root for them for the first time in my life. Therefore I am hoping he does not. |
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hkalirah
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Posted - 01/28/2008 : 10:19:35
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I love this post, because I get to play GM.
Cliff Fletcher has to go to Sundin soon, and give him two options:
1. Waive your NTC, and we’ll trade you to a contender such as Vancouver, Detroit, San Jose, Anaheim, etc.
2. Sign an extension and stay with the Leafs until you’re ready to retire.
Obviously, #1 would be the better option for the Leafs.
I think the Leafs would most benefit from a trade with Anaheim, where they could pick up Edmonton’s first round pick (acquired when Edmonton signed Penner to that ridiculous contract). In addition to that they can get a young prospect like Bobby Ryan. I think trade option is unlikely to happen since it looks like Selanne is ready to return.
Vancouver is interesting, because of the Swede connections. I’m sure Sundin would love playing with his country mates, but what we’re forgetting is what does Vancouver have to offer the Leafs? I’ve heard rumours involving Kessler, but I think Sundin has more value than just Kessler alone. Vancouver will probably have a first round pick, but it’ll be late in the first, so I’m not sure that’ll benefit the Leafs as much.
The Leafs would probably ask for Milan Michalek from San Jose, and I’m not sure if San Jose is willing to let go of him, so we can pretty much rule this team out.
Detroit is a team that has just as many, if not more Swedes on it than Vancouver. He’d be a great fit in Detroit, however I don’t see this deal happening. I’m hearing that Toronto wants both Jiri Hudler and Niklas Kronvall, plus a draft pick. Too rich if you ask me.
Philadelphia is where I see Sundin landing. In return, they’d most likely give up Jeff Carter, and some draft picks. It’ll benefit the Leafs if they can get one of Nashville’s picks (acquired in the Forsberg deal). That way they’ll be able to get 2 picks in the top 10 of this years draft.
Any thoughts?
Go Wings Go! |
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ERTW0T9
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Posted - 01/28/2008 : 16:28:09
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I'd heard the Philly rumor as well but only player for player involving Carter. Still, I'm not entirely convinced Philly needs Sundin with a strong presence at centre already. They've got pretty balanced scoring. I'm not too sure that Paul Holmgren would be too keen on being on the other side of the fence this year interms of short term trades. Also, there are a bunch of Peter Forsberg rumors swirling around Philly that might deter them from trading for Sundin.
From a daydreaming point of view though, Jeff Carter and some picks would be pretty good. Especially if they're the ones from Nashville. I just don't see it happening though. More than likely the Leafs will hold on to their captain. I doubt he'll waive his NTC. |
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Guest7418
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Posted - 01/28/2008 : 17:13:16
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if you believe that Mats is going to stay in TO just because 'he loves the Leafs and that's where his heart is'... then you need your head examined.
Give him an option to actually do something in the playoffs, fill his pockets with some cash, and he'll be outta there faster than you can say Bjore Salming.
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Antroman
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Posted - 01/28/2008 : 17:50:57
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| Guest 7418 - He is not going to get anymore cash as a result of a trade as he will be still paid according to his currant contract. He actually signed a one year deal this past season for less than his market worth in order to benefit the team cash wise. Part of the agreement was the no trade clause which is of his choosing. He has maintained all along that he has no desire to play anywhere else and has always said he wanted to retire as a Leaf. One of the main reasons they brought in Cliff Fletcher was for Fletch to use his people skills in trying to convince Matts that he should waive the no trade clause and go for the future betterment of the team. I have no reason to sell Sundin short as you have done and I believe what he says. If he goes it won't be for money and he will go reluctantly for sure. |
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Posted - 01/29/2008 : 07:26:54
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I'm with Antroman and MarkhamMax on this one - first, he isn't going anywhere in the east. Second, I think that looking at his recent actions, Sundin wants to retire as a lifelong Leaf.
If Fletcher does go to Sundin with two options as hkalirah suggested (likely, in my mind - trading is what he was brought in for), then I think he will choose #2, to stay with the Leafs.
Personally, I think IF he does get traded "temporarily", it'll be Vancouver or Colorado, possibly Pittsburgh (with a very sweet deal). But realistically, I can't see it happening.
Trade Antropov!
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ERTW0T9
Top Prospect
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Posted - 01/29/2008 : 08:00:13
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quote:
Originally posted by Guest7418
if you believe that Mats is going to stay in TO just because 'he loves the Leafs and that's where his heart is'... then you need your head examined.
Give him an option to actually do something in the playoffs, fill his pockets with some cash, and he'll be outta there faster than you can say Bjore Salming.
Personally, I think you're the one that needs their head examined. Why in the world would Sundin go as a playoff rental to fill his pockets? If he wanted to test the open market and get his real market worth then he would have done so in the summer. I don't see what is so different about this eyar than last. The Leafs are 6 points out of 8th in the East. Not a great chance but a shot that Mats is probably going to use as an excuse to stay. I think Fletcher's agenda is to move Sundin, however, sources have claimed that Sundin's intentions are to stay put. Meetings are scheduled for later this week. Ultimately it's up to him to waive his NTC and if the Leafs are still in contention, Mats will remain naive and try to win with the Leafs.
If Sundin does move anywhere though, it'll be to either Detroit or Vancouver, although both would need to free up some cap space the former less so than the latter. |
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Guest7418
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Posted - 01/29/2008 : 10:21:42
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You guys dont live in reality. Of course he says what he says... it's great PR. Believe what you want, but over and over again the truth has always revealed itself.. then the spin-doctors rev their engines again for another story...
The leafs will try to get something for their future for him if they can... let' see if/what teams are willing to pay that price, if any.
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Beans15
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Posted - 01/29/2008 : 19:22:01
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Sundin, Kaberle, and Toskala are the only real value on the Leafs today. If the Leafs want to improve, they need to move a player like Sundin and gets picks and prospects.
If Sundin had half a brain he would be asking Fletcher to move him to a contender or bubble team(Vancouver for example). Then, as a UFA, if he still wants to play for TO he can come back in the summer. It's really a win/win. Tkachuk has done that like 27 times. So did Weight. Even if Sundin doesn't come back, he will have a "special" consultant job with the Leafs once he's done playing. He's a Leaf for life, regardless of the crest on his jersey.
I would be completely convinced that the Leafs have the worse management in Hockey if Sundin is still a Leaf on Feb 27th. |
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jschur77
Top Prospect
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Posted - 01/29/2008 : 21:14:53
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| I wouldnt be suprised if the Canuck's get Mats Sundin then Forsberg because there literally Team Sweeden |
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PuckNuts
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Posted - 01/29/2008 : 23:08:43
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I think that Burke has something up his sleeve.
He mentioned that he has enough cap space after the Selanne signing to be able to make a pickup at the trade deadline. He specifically said they will have around 5.0 - 6.0 Mil cap space...Sundin at 5.5 mil...coincident...
Champions take chances, and pressure is a privilege.
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Beans15
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Posted - 01/30/2008 : 07:50:10
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Originally posted by PuckNuts
I think that Burke has something up his sleeve.
He mentioned that he has enough cap space after the Selanne signing to be able to make a pickup at the trade deadline. He specifically said they will have around 5.0 - 6.0 Mil cap space...Sundin at 5.5 mil...coincident...
Champions take chances, and pressure is a privilege.
Billy Jean King to Maria Sharapova
http://www.maldesigns.ca/top50since1967.htm
Makes sense,. Actually, they only have $1.8 million left under the cap, but will only have to absorb 16 games worth of salary. That means they can afford a player who makes $112,500/game or $9.2 million. That means anyone they can get their hands on. Plus, they have a huge chip in having that 1st round pick from Edmonton this year in the Penner deal. I can see some teams really wanting that. Toronto for sure! |
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Antroman
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Posted - 01/30/2008 : 08:57:45
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It is starting to get real interesting around Toronto now. Matts said last night that he has no reason to not talk to Cliff Fletcher so it appears that he is willing to hear what Cliff has to say at least. This is the first time I have heard him say anything other than the usual......"I want to finish my career here".
In answer to the trade Antropov comment by Slozo......Why would they trade him when he is only 27 and locked up for three yrs at only 2 million per? Who are you going to get for that amount that is better? |
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Guest6482
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Posted - 01/30/2008 : 12:20:25
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| just an idea dont rip me to ottawa evengy nabohkov for emery and draft picks or prospect with or without sundin or three team trade ottawa needs goalie toronto has to get rid of goalie emery is young ps i think toronto is nt going anywhere for next 3 to five yrs unless you count making playoffs and losing 4 games need to rebuild anyone over 25 cya including 4th liner stajan and 3rd liner steen |
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Guest6482
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Posted - 01/30/2008 : 12:41:09
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| sorry toskala |
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hkalirah
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Posted - 01/30/2008 : 12:46:10
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Originally posted by Guest6482
just an idea dont rip me to ottawa evengy nabohkov for emery and draft picks or prospect with or without sundin or three team trade ottawa needs goalie toronto has to get rid of goalie emery is young ps i think toronto is nt going anywhere for next 3 to five yrs unless you count making playoffs and losing 4 games need to rebuild anyone over 25 cya including 4th liner stajan and 3rd liner steen
You wouldn’t trade Toskala to Ottawa for Emery for a number of reasons, not the least being the fact that Ottawa is the Leafs most hated rival, and in their very own division.
But lets play devil’s advocate.
If the leafs do trade Toskala, it’s because they feel Justin Pogge is ready for the big leagues. He’ll be called up and backup Raycroft, until he is ready for the starters job.
Where would Emery fit into this picture? Yes he’s a young goalie who has shown moments of brilliance. However, if they did acquire him, where would Pogge fit into the equation?
Go Wings Go! |
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OILINONTARIO
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Posted - 01/30/2008 : 12:50:26
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quote:
Originally posted by Guest6482
just an idea dont rip me to ottawa evengy nabohkov for emery and draft picks or prospect with or without sundin or three team trade ottawa needs goalie toronto has to get rid of goalie emery is young ps i think toronto is nt going anywhere for next 3 to five yrs unless you count making playoffs and losing 4 games need to rebuild anyone over 25 cya including 4th liner stajan and 3rd liner steen
Slow down, son. We want to know what you have to say. I needed 4 cappuccinos and 3-D glasses to understand that post.
The Oil WILL make the playoffs. |
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Posted - 01/30/2008 : 13:37:56
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Answer (Antroman) to why trade Antropov:
Because, I think we could get that 1st round pick from Anaheim for him (or something similar right now, while his value is high), and because I think he will get injured soon.
My prediction has always been that, whatever we can get for him right now, while healthy and playing well, will seem like a lot next year. But they won't do it, and we will have to watch Antropov get injured again later this year or early next year, and see his play slip down to 3rd and 4th line status as a result. He will only get traded when he is useless to us.
That's what I see in the future . . . I hope it doesn't happen; I really do, I wish for him to be the second coming of Wendel Clarke; but it ain't gonna happen, methinks.
Comment for Beans - No, if Sundin said no to a trade, he would not necessarily be stupid, you are using faulty logic. He has already shown by taking less money he is loyal to the franchise, whether you want to make it for noble reasons or for the celebrity/ego thing. But if he said no to going elsewhere, it would be certain for me - he is just an an old school guy for whom money and self-fullfillment come second, behind character, friendship and loyalty. In short - a person of strong character, unlike your "smart" guy Tkachuk, or Weight.
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Antroman
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Posted - 01/30/2008 : 14:43:38
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Yeah Slozo, I can see your point but the injury thing is pure conjecture on your part. I as well as you do not want to see him hurt again because his play has been so strong this season. If we could get that Edmonton pick for him I guess you would have to let him go but I do not think the Ducks would make that deal, do you? Making that trade would certainly make a no go thing from Sundin a little more palatable for sure. I just heard an update on Sundin while listening to The Waters Show just now. He told the press that he didn't want to go again. I guess that makes my previous post on this matter a little redundant. He is obviously struggling with this situation and you can't blame him as far as I'm concerned at least.
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Guest6916
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Posted - 01/30/2008 : 15:14:17
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Originally posted by Guest6482
just an idea dont rip me to ottawa evengy nabohkov for emery and draft picks or prospect with or without sundin or three team trade ottawa needs goalie toronto has to get rid of goalie emery is young ps i think toronto is nt going anywhere for next 3 to five yrs unless you count making playoffs and losing 4 games need to rebuild anyone over 25 cya including 4th liner stajan and 3rd liner steen
dude consider some punctuation in your sentences! Have you ever heard of a period or a comma? I don't know where each thoughts starts and ends. |
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hkalirah
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Posted - 01/30/2008 : 16:07:43
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Originally posted by Antroman
Yeah Slozo, I can see your point but the injury thing is pure conjecture on your part. I as well as you do not want to see him hurt again because his play has been so strong this season. If we could get that Edmonton pick for him I guess you would have to let him go but I do not think the Ducks would make that deal, do you? Making that trade would certainly make a no go thing from Sundin a little more palatable for sure. I just heard an update on Sundin while listening to The Waters Show just now. He told the press that he didn't want to go again. I guess that makes my previous post on this matter a little redundant. He is obviously struggling with this situation and you can't blame him as far as I'm concerned at least.
Firstly on the Antropov debate, I don't think Burke would give up the #1 pick for a 2nd or 3rd line player like Antropov, when he can package it with someone else and get a Hossa, or Sundin. Sather would be better suited to trade Antropov to a team which requires a big bodied forward, like Vancouver, or even Detroit, although I'm not sure where he'd fit in with the latter.
Secondly, about Sundin and his "I'd like to stay in Toronto" comments. Do you not think that it's just him the right thing for the sake of P.R.? I'll use an example.
Although I agree, that if he truly does not want to leave Toronto, he shouldn't be forced out.
Go Wings Go! |
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Alex
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Posted - 01/30/2008 : 17:15:30
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For those who did not believe it before, now with Selanne's return, I think we can bury Anaheim as potential buyers.
So who does that leave us with following the aforementioned criteria? (i.e. playoff contenders needing a one hit wonder rental player)
Ottawa, Philly (they have bouN.J. (always a defensive first team who can go far with more offense, they currently sit very low on GF with 119), Rangers (they paid enough already, might as well go for broke ... they always pay for teams) and a handful of teams in the neck and neck west.
It is doubtful that he goes anywhere.
Habs get number 25 this year |
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Antroman
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Posted - 01/30/2008 : 18:50:05
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| It is hard to tell if he is just getting annoyed by all the controvery or is annoyed about the possibilty of leaving the team? He seems pretty adamant though when asked. I believe if he does go that he is gone for good. I can't see a team giving up the farm if they can't get his signature on a deal for next season. He can leave as a rent a player but the Leafs won't get near as much for him. |
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hkalirah
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Posted - 01/30/2008 : 19:10:15
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quote:
Originally posted by Alex
For those who did not believe it before, now with Selanne's return, I think we can bury Anaheim as potential buyers.
So who does that leave us with following the aforementioned criteria? (i.e. playoff contenders needing a one hit wonder rental player)
Ottawa, Philly (they have bouN.J. (always a defensive first team who can go far with more offense, they currently sit very low on GF with 119), Rangers (they paid enough already, might as well go for broke ... they always pay for teams) and a handful of teams in the neck and neck west.
It is doubtful that he goes anywhere.
Habs get number 25 this year
Why would we rule Anaheim out as "buyers". From all the reports I've been hearing, they've still got a lot of cap room left to acquire a Sundin or Hossa.
Remember, Sundin will only cost them just over a million towards the cap if they acquire him on deadline day. I think they've got that kind of room. Selanne is only costing them $600,000.
Go Wings Go! |
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irvine
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Posted - 01/30/2008 : 20:03:11
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Burke has 6 Million free in cap space. (per haps a little more, but not much.)
So he can afford to rent Sundin for this season. But does he really need him? Or should he save that coin until deadline day and see where he stands in injuries, etc.
Perry, Selannee, Getzlaf + Marchant, Kunitz, Weight (solid secondaries)
Neidermyer, Pronger, Schneider
Gigure.
Plus some good third/fourth line players. Looking good to me. You add Mats, ouch. Quite the team to beat.
Top 3 teams now: (no particular order - matter of personal opinion.)
Detroit (Offense, Defense & Goaltending)
Anaheim (Offense (getting there,) Defense, Goaltending)
Ottawa (Offense, Goaltending (if they can keep it that way,))
Ottawa needs to work on Defense and Anaheim's Offense is getting there once Teemu is ready. Detroit, well rounded.
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LeafsFanForLife
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Posted - 01/31/2008 : 10:04:31
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I'd say somewhere thats going to win the cup, i.e. detroit or anaheim.
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Beans15
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Posted - 01/31/2008 : 10:34:22
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Burke does not have $6 million under the cap this year, he has $1.8 million under the cap. Take a look at this site to see each teams remaining cap dollars this year.
http://www.nhlnumbers.com/compare.php?type=capspace&order=ASC
And I would say Anaheim makes more sense than just about any other team for Sundin. Reason being is that they have Edmonton's 1st round pick. That would be the best value as Edmonton in trending to miss the playoffs and possibly be in a spot for a top 5 pick in the draft. Any other team that I can think that will make the play offs does not have that high of a pick to offer. Plus, Sundin would not waive his no trade clause to go to a team out of the playoffs to prodive an high enough draft pick to Toronto for it to be a deal worth while.
The only three players on TO that I can see Burke wanting are Sundin, Kaberle, and Toskala. I don't think anyone else on the Leafs team is worth a potential top 5 pick to Burke. He has decent goaltending and very solid defense, so I would say it's Sundin or nothing.
I would eat my shirt if Burke took Antropov for that pick. |
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Antroman
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Posted - 01/31/2008 : 11:11:20
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| Hey Beans, I think if Sundin goes to Anaheim then what Anaheim gives up will depend on weather Sundin will sign for next year? I can't see him trading that pick for a rental can you? On the otherhand he just might give it up for Antro because he is signed for two more years at only 2 mil per yr. Antro would fit right into their style of play for sure. He can bang and crash with the best of them and adequately fill the role that Penner had last year. It is going to be hard to pry that pick from Burke though because I think he wants to literally ram it down Kevin Lowe's throat. |
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Guest4490
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Posted - 02/03/2008 : 11:38:47
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quote:
Originally posted by hkalirah
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Originally posted by Guest6482
just an idea dont rip me to ottawa evengy nabohkov for emery and draft picks or prospect with or without sundin or three team trade ottawa needs goalie toronto has to get rid of goalie emery is young ps i think toronto is nt going anywhere for next 3 to five yrs unless you count making playoffs and losing 4 games need to rebuild anyone over 25 cya including 4th liner stajan and 3rd liner steen
You wouldn’t trade Toskala to Ottawa for Emery for a number of reasons, not the least being the fact that Ottawa is the Leafs most hated rival, and in their very own division.
But lets play devil’s advocate.
If the leafs do trade Toskala, it’s because they feel Justin Pogge is ready for the big leagues. He’ll be called up and backup Raycroft, until he is ready for the starters job.
Where would Emery fit into this picture? Yes he’s a young goalie who has shown moments of brilliance. However, if they did acquire him, where would Pogge fit into the equation?
Go Wings Go!
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Guest4490
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Posted - 02/03/2008 : 11:59:32
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| Sorry beans I have to disagree with you. Sundin doesnt owe the leafs anything and to compare him to that piece of class tkcaulk is insulting. How did that work out for him oh yeah he still dosent have ring and im sure he is popular in atlanta.Whatever happened to playing for the guys in the room u know your supposed friends who you played your heart out to try to win the cup. And for arguement sake how many of these high priced rentals has won a cup. And he has showed loyalty already by signing with the leafs on a numerous occasions. I for one see more class in making a team a winner than ala clemens joinig yankees to get your tittle given to you or bourque. I beleive Sundin wants to win a cup but with the boys he battled with. I think if he went to Ottawa or Detroit or even S Jose or Calgary he would put them over the top to win a cup.It is hard to win a championship in any sport you need to work as a team hockey more than most. One player doesnt backcheck and you have a five on four and a goal is scored. Game over. Everyone must work together you have to trust your teammates. |
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Datsyuk 1
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Posted - 02/03/2008 : 21:29:29
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| Sundin just has to go with a west team not a east team. I'd say he will go with Vancouver because they need the offence or like Anaheim. |
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POLL - MATS SUNDIN TRADE 
