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Datsyuk 1
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Posted - 02/03/2008 :  21:23:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Poll Question:
In my opinion I would have to say the San Jose Sharks that got some players that can score.

Choices:

Detroit Red Wings
San Jose Sharks
Anaheim Ducks
Ottawa Senators
New York Rangers
Atlanta Thrashers
Pittsburgh Penguins
Other (State Who)

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Posted - 02/03/2008 :  21:38:22  Reply with Quote
Best offense based on what?

If its goals scored it is clearly Detroi or Ottawa, San Jose is way behind them.
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Beans15
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Posted - 02/03/2008 :  22:42:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
San Jose is ranked 20th in goals for this year and has the 13th ranked PP.

Here is the list of teams, in order, of highest Goals per Game to this point.

Ottawa Senators 3.43
Detroit Red Wings 3.37
Philadelphia Flyers 3.25
Montréal Canadiens 3.19
Carolina Hurricanes 3.00
Buffalo Sabres 2.96
Dallas Stars 2.93
Pittsburgh Penguins 2.92
Calgary Flames 2.92
Nashville Predators 2.91
Tampa Bay Lightning 2.89
Washington Capitals 2.87
Colorado Avalanche 2.83
Minnesota Wild 2.83
Los Angeles Kings 2.80
Toronto Maple Leafs 2.78
Chicago Blackhawks 2.77
Atlanta Thrashers 2.76
Phoenix Coyotes 2.75
San Jose Sharks 2.67
Vancouver Canucks 2.64
Boston Bruins 2.63
Edmonton Oilers 2.61
New Jersey Devils 2.58
St Louis Blues 2.57
Florida Panthers 2.54
New York Rangers 2.49
Columbus Blue Jackets 2.46
Anaheim Ducks 2.43
New York Islanders 2.42


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Alex
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Posted - 02/04/2008 :  04:16:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I like Montreal and I think it is because along with Dallas, they have the most consistent scoring. Koivu or Kovalev, Ribeiro or Morrow aren't hot, the rest of the team can carry the load.

Now look at a team like Ottawa. With Heatley and Alfie out, they have been in the dog house lately. You can not have a playoff contender relying solely on two guys, we saw how it turned out last year in hte final against the Ducks.

Habs get number 25 this year
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Posted - 02/04/2008 :  07:40:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I disagree, Alex - if Detroit had the equivalent in terms of missing players, say Datsyuk and Zetterberg - they would be hurting too, I think. And history has shown that "one big line" teams can win the stanley cup.

My vote is for Ottawa.

btw - putting San Jose on the top of the offense list is pretty hilarious, dude, and I think you need to research a bit more before you post.

"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug
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Datsyuk 1
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Posted - 02/04/2008 :  08:01:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was thingking of last year when there powerplay was 1 and were right up there in goals.
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Beans15
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Posted - 02/04/2008 :  11:21:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Last year was a long time ago.

As a new member to the site, firstly welcome. Secondly, if you are going to make posts, do a little homework first. That way, you won't get attacked by people and you will gain credibility much faster.

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PuckNuts
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Posted - 02/04/2008 :  15:33:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Tough to go against Ottawa, and Detroit when the numbers speak for themselves...

I voted Detroit, because I can't stand Ottawa (Leafs Fan).

Why has no one voted for San Jose?

Detroit also looks like the best Defensive team also, I wonder if they can carry that into the playoffs?



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Datsyuk 1
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Posted - 02/04/2008 :  17:35:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think that San Jose has the best offence. Even know they don't have the best stats it doesnt mean they don't have good offence.
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PuckNuts
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Posted - 02/04/2008 :  18:17:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If Cheechoo, and Marleau were on pace for their best seasons then San Jose would have 171 goals, and that would be 3.29 / game, good for 3rd.

Cheechoo is 20 goals, and Marleau 12 behind where they could be...

But this is a pole of who has the best offence, not who could have the best offence...

Champions take chances, and pressure is a privilege.
Billy Jean King to Maria Sharapova


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Alex
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Posted - 02/04/2008 :  19:42:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Cheechoo was a one hit wonder, Thornton's blowout season relied on his finisher in Cheechoo, and Marleau sort of tagged along for the ride. That is not good offence by a team.

Look at Detroit. You want to tell me that with both Datsyuk and Zetterberg not playing well they stay as hot as they are. We saw the results of injuries to key guys in Ottawa. Both right now, and how they lost without Heatley and Spezza producing in the final.

For a team to win it all, they need more than secondary scoring, they need all lines contriuting in every way. Ask Brad May or Sammy Pahlson.

Habs get number 25 this year
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Posted - 02/05/2008 :  00:20:10  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Datsyuk 1

I think that San Jose has the best offence. Even know they don't have the best stats it doesnt mean they don't have good offence.



Well good for you, the best offense would not be 20th in the league. Nobody in the poll has voted for San Jose. If you think they have the most offensive talent that is different than having the best offense, LA has a lot of offensive talent too, but that does not mean they have the best offense.
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Guest4464
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Posted - 02/05/2008 :  00:23:00  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Alex

Cheechoo was a one hit wonder, Thornton's blowout season relied on his finisher in Cheechoo, and Marleau sort of tagged along for the ride. That is not good offence by a team.

Look at Detroit. You want to tell me that with both Datsyuk and Zetterberg not playing well they stay as hot as they are. We saw the results of injuries to key guys in Ottawa. Both right now, and how they lost without Heatley and Spezza producing in the final.

For a team to win it all, they need more than secondary scoring, they need all lines contriuting in every way. Ask Brad May or Sammy Pahlson.

Habs get number 25 this year



Yeah but Detroit can play without either one of Datsyuk and Zetterberg and still win because of their team game, depth and defense.
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Guest4464
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Posted - 02/05/2008 :  00:26:49  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Alex

I like Montreal and I think it is because along with Dallas, they have the most consistent scoring. Koivu or Kovalev, Ribeiro or Morrow aren't hot, the rest of the team can carry the load.

Now look at a team like Ottawa. With Heatley and Alfie out, they have been in the dog house lately. You can not have a playoff contender relying solely on two guys, we saw how it turned out last year in hte final against the Ducks.

Habs get number 25 this year



Good point with Montreal with their consistency, I was surprised to see they were so high in goals per game. Buffalo too is surprising because they have not played that well but then they have clearly been volatile offensively.
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Guest4464
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Posted - 02/05/2008 :  00:27:28  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Beans15

San Jose is ranked 20th in goals for this year and has the 13th ranked PP.

Here is the list of teams, in order, of highest Goals per Game to this point.

Ottawa Senators 3.43
Detroit Red Wings 3.37
Philadelphia Flyers 3.25
Montréal Canadiens 3.19
Carolina Hurricanes 3.00
Buffalo Sabres 2.96
Dallas Stars 2.93
Pittsburgh Penguins 2.92
Calgary Flames 2.92
Nashville Predators 2.91
Tampa Bay Lightning 2.89
Washington Capitals 2.87
Colorado Avalanche 2.83
Minnesota Wild 2.83
Los Angeles Kings 2.80
Toronto Maple Leafs 2.78
Chicago Blackhawks 2.77
Atlanta Thrashers 2.76
Phoenix Coyotes 2.75
San Jose Sharks 2.67
Vancouver Canucks 2.64
Boston Bruins 2.63
Edmonton Oilers 2.61
New Jersey Devils 2.58
St Louis Blues 2.57
Florida Panthers 2.54
New York Rangers 2.49
Columbus Blue Jackets 2.46
Anaheim Ducks 2.43
New York Islanders 2.42






Thanks for the stats.
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