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Gostarsgo12
PickupHockey Pro
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Posted - 02/24/2008 : 08:08:05
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I think so far Wayne Gretzky has been a good candidate so far and I also think Joel Quenville should deserve some credit too because he's had some top players go down with injuries and the Avs are still in playoff race.
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Alex
PickupHockey All-Star
Canada
2816 Posts |
Posted - 02/24/2008 : 09:00:59
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Agreed. All the top candidates a.k.a. Babcock, Murray have faced adversity this year despite amazing support systems in their players.
I think Julien in Steel Town also deserves recognition, losing Crosby and Fleury... But Quenville had a harder job no question.
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Devils Fanatic
Top Prospect
Canada
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Posted - 02/24/2008 : 10:44:03
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I'll be the odd one out. I'll go with Sutter for the Devils.Isn't it his first year as coach in the NHL and his team is hovering around first in the Eastern conference. Since the slow start of the season the Devils are something like 32-12-3.
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nashvillepreds
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1053 Posts |
Posted - 02/24/2008 : 11:02:25
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I agree with Devils Fanatic, Sutter has been the best coach this year. Take a look at his team, his top players will maybe hit the 60 point mark. Brodeur can't do everything on his own. He took a group of a bunch of young guys and made them a solid NHL team. without Sutter, I'd say they devils are battling for 8th right now.
Ellis or Mason?
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Datsyuk 1
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
333 Posts |
Posted - 02/24/2008 : 15:26:14
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I would have to say Alain Vigneault (sp?). He has defence go down all year like Salo and Bieska and they are the top defense on Canucks and also he plays the guys who are going like Shannon, Cooke and Raymond. Last night against Detori t they played more then the Sedin Sister's. |
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Leafsfan_94
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1070 Posts |
Posted - 02/24/2008 : 18:01:04
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i'd say mike babcock since his tema is overall st in the league. gretzky somehow got his coyotes to step it up and get up into a playoff spot.
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Alex
PickupHockey All-Star
Canada
2816 Posts |
Posted - 02/24/2008 : 18:04:54
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quote: Originally posted by Leafsfan_94
i'd say mike babcock since his tema is overall st in the league. gretzky somehow got his coyotes to step it up and get up into a playoff spot.
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Leafsfan_94
It isnt as hard to do what Babcock did this year as it is to do what some of the others name thrown out in this forum did.
Look at the East, New Jersey is ahead of Ottawa -- WHOA! I mean, New Jersey should barely be contenders for a post season berth, while Ottawa should be running away with this one. Anyone who picks the Ottawa coach over the New Jersey one has to make a very compelling case!
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Leafsfan_94
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1070 Posts |
Posted - 02/24/2008 : 18:08:52
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since NJ has mooved ahaid of ottawa, i actually should of thought of this, but another candiddate should be brent sutter
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Leafsfan_94
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1070 Posts |
Posted - 02/24/2008 : 18:37:44
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what?
quote: Originally posted by Alex
quote: Originally posted by Leafsfan_94
since NJ has mooved ahaid of ottawa, i actually should of thought of this, but another candiddate should be brent sutter
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Leafsfan_94
It's the same person
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Posted - 02/25/2008 : 05:35:12
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My vote right now? Sutter from NJ. I really thought New Jersey would be life and death to make the playoffs this year, they have shocked me, frankly - and there are no "big years" happening there, except for the usual great performance by Brodeur. A close second would be Carbonneau for Montreal, another team I thought had little hope for the playoffs.
IF Gretzky/Phoenix or Hitchcock/Columbus make the playoffs, they should get strong consideration.
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Alex
PickupHockey All-Star
Canada
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Posted - 02/25/2008 : 05:38:00
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quote: Originally posted by slozo
My vote right now? Sutter from NJ. I really thought New Jersey would be life and death to make the playoffs this year, they have shocked me, frankly - and there are no "big years" happening there, except for the usual great performance by Brodeur. A close second would be Carbonneau for Montreal, another team I thought had little hope for the playoffs.
IF Gretzky/Phoenix or Hitchcock/Columbus make the playoffs, they should get strong consideration.
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug
It's easy to say now ''oh look Montreal was a point away from the conference, they must be good.'' Frankly, coming from a fan, they weren't that good on paper.
Look at all the examples mentioned, and really THINK about who is where... it wasn't something most of us expected.
Now for people to say Babcock... I don't really see the justification when guys like these are working with teams that aren't nearly as skilled.
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hkalirah
PickupHockey Pro
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Posted - 02/25/2008 : 08:30:28
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What about Bruce Budreau from Washington?
The team had an abismal record before he came on the scene. Now they're fighting for the division lead and a playoff spot.
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Alex
PickupHockey All-Star
Canada
2816 Posts |
Posted - 02/25/2008 : 08:37:41
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I would say this NHL season has been testimony to the old adage
''It ain't over till it's over''
Honestly tell me you thought these teams would be where they are:
Devils Penguins Canadians Sabres Stars Wild Preds Colorado Columbus Chicago St. Louis Washington
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Posted - 02/25/2008 : 09:39:03
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Carbonneau for sure. Babcock has the best team. His success comes from his all star players. They may be hurt now, but they are the reason the wings are at the top of the NHL. Carbonneau or Gretzky...pick'em |
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nashvillepreds
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1053 Posts |
Posted - 02/25/2008 : 15:06:48
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Alex, I thought all those teams would be where they are except the Canadiens, Blues, Preds, Devils, Pens and the stars.
Ellis or Mason?
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Alex
PickupHockey All-Star
Canada
2816 Posts |
Posted - 02/25/2008 : 15:16:45
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Washington??? Penguins, after they lost Fleury and later Crosby?? Sabres, missing their two captains and with Vanek playing so cold for so long? Colorado, missing their three offensive stars? Columbus, with no big changes from last year other than in the wins column? St Louis with no big changes from last year other than wins column?
You have some explaining NashPreds, but that's ok, I have time
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nashvillepreds
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1053 Posts |
Posted - 02/25/2008 : 15:21:52
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Alex, both St. Louis and Pittsburgh are on my list. As for the rest of the teams though:
Washington- they're in 11th Columbus- Hitchcock behind the bench fulltime, Nash injury free, Peca added to the roster and Zherdev developing well, they're still out of playoff contention. Chicago- They picked up Lang, Williams, Kane and Toews, how bad can they be? They're still in 11th. Buffalo- 8th sounds about right. Conolly and Pominville injury free, plus they have an amazing defense core. Colorado- With Hannan and Smyth, their army should've improved.I'm just wondering, who'd they lose?
Ellis or Mason?
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leafsfan_101
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1530 Posts |
Posted - 02/25/2008 : 15:44:11
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I don't think that this should necessarily be the winner of the award, but his name deserves some recignition. Paul Mau...no I'm joking. Claude Julien of the Boston Bruins. Boston was pegged to finish well out of the playoff race, and they sit 7th as of today. This, along with Boudreau, is incredible.
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Alex
PickupHockey All-Star
Canada
2816 Posts |
Posted - 02/25/2008 : 16:08:10
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Slightly busy at the moment Nash, but without doing my homework on the matter, for now I will say this:
You cant say Washington is in 11th because in the SE a game can take you from third to eleventh. They are legit contenders for the division and their first playoff berth in I do not know how long.
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ThorntonisTHEMAN
PickupHockey Pro
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Posted - 02/26/2008 : 05:24:29
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I would say my picks would be Gretzky, especially if the Coyotes make the playoffs, Dave Tippett, because honestly i did not think the Stars would be doing this well, and Brent Suter, because he has molded his team so well! Honourable Mention to: Joel Quennville (espeically if the Avs go on a tear) Claude Julien Lindy Ruff Guy Carbonneau
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Posted - 02/26/2008 : 05:38:33
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Good point, Leafsfan101 - I forgot about Julien. He definitely deserves strong consideration.
Yeah, like I mentioned - the east has been the most surprising this year for me - I thought Montreal would miss the playoffs, I thought NJ would finish just out or in 8th/7th, and I certainly thought Boston would be out. Hey, I thought the Leafs and Canes would make it easily, so what do I know?
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