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Alex
PickupHockey All-Star
Canada
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 Posted - 02/26/2008 : 15:00:52
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Just a place for comments. By the way, I think this thread should have been placed in hockey history... but hey, kudos for the idea my man!
Habs get number 25 this year
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Edited by - Alex on 04/27/2008 20:48:47
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Alex
PickupHockey All-Star
Canada
2816 Posts |
Posted - 02/26/2008 : 16:33:19
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Brodeur career highlights
Career GAA: 2.20
Career playoff GAA: 1.93
Single season GAA - best: 1..8 (1.89 the very next season, with 67 and 70 game played respectively)
(Wikipedia)
All-Time
* 2nd place — Most wins (529)
* 2nd place — Most shutouts (96)
* 1st place - Combined shutouts (118) - Both regular season and playoffs
* Most overtime wins (45)
* Most consecutive 30-win seasons (12)
* Most consecutive 35-win seasons (11)
* Most 40-win seasons (6)
* Only NHL goalie to score a game-winning goal
* One of only two NHL goalies to score a goal in
both the regular season and the playoffs
Regular Season
* Most wins in a single season (48, in 2006–07)
* Most minutes played in a single season (4697, in 2006–07)
Playoffs
* Most shutouts in a playoff year (7, in 2002–03)
* 1st place — Most shutouts (22)
o Tied with Patrick Roy.
* Most shutouts in a Stanley Cup Finals (3, in 2002–03)**
o Tied with Toronto's Frank McCool.
* 2nd place — Most wins (94)
* 3rd goaltender to win the Stanley Cup with a game seven shutout (in 2002–03)
* 1st goaltender in history to have 3 shutouts in 2 different playoff series. (1995 against Boston in the Conference Quarterfinals, 2003 against Anaheim in the Stanley Cup Finals.)
Habs get number 25 this year |
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Devils Fanatic
Top Prospect
Canada
87 Posts |
Posted - 02/26/2008 : 16:37:46
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10 - 70 game seasons, 9 in a row
Back to back 40 win seasons on two occasion
Over 140 consecutive playoff games started
Most consecutive wins to start the season (38)
and more...
Devils fan for life |
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leafsfan_101
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1530 Posts |
Posted - 02/26/2008 : 17:59:24
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Remember everyone, this is from 93 and beyond. But strangely enough, Brodeur started his career in the 93-94 season.
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willus3
Moderator
Canada
1948 Posts |
Posted - 02/26/2008 : 19:15:16
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Wow! Brodeur a #1 consensus player since 93? I wouldn't even take him as the top goalie since 93.
Hasek would be first then Roy and then perhaps Brodeur.
"I broke a mirror in my house. I'm supposed to get 7 years of bad luck but my lawyer thinks he can get me 5."
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PainTrain
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1393 Posts |
Posted - 02/27/2008 : 08:22:35
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| LF101. Since you're running it. Look at the way PuckNuts is running the other one. It is much more organized. We need that so it will be easy to follow. |
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PainTrain
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1393 Posts |
Posted - 02/29/2008 : 12:48:07
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ALL COMMITTEE MEMBERS READ!!!!!
We have to make sure this is organized. So in the thread for the nominations and votes. Don't start posting as a debate or a conversation. Look at the PickupHockey top 50 since 1967 thread and see how organized that is. You may nominate or second AFTER LF101 says you guys can. And you may make your list of votes AFTER LF101 says you can. DON"T put any other posts in that thread except you nomination or second and your vote list. The only other person who can post a little more is LF101 and maybe myself if he wants my help. Is everybody clear on this? It will run much smoother if it is organized. |
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leafsfan_101
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1530 Posts |
Posted - 02/29/2008 : 12:56:14
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quote:
Originally posted by PainTrain
ALL COMMITTEE MEMBERS READ!!!!!
We have to make sure this is organized. So in the thread for the nominations and votes. Don't start posting as a debate or a conversation. Look at the PickupHockey top 50 since 1967 thread and see how organized that is. You may nominate or second AFTER LF101 says you guys can. And you may make your list of votes AFTER LF101 says you can. DON"T put any other posts in that thread except you nomination or second and your vote list. The only other person who can post a little more is LF101 and maybe myself if he wants my help. Is everybody clear on this? It will run much smoother if it is organized.
100% AGREED!!!
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PainTrain
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1393 Posts |
Posted - 02/29/2008 : 13:05:27
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Top 20 Since 1993 list
I will update this post of the winners for their round.
1)Martin Brodeur
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Leafs Rock Planet
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
902 Posts |
Posted - 02/29/2008 : 13:16:06
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This is excellent guys!!! LF_101 and Paintrain, you guys are doing a great job so far. Keep it up!!
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Let the Stamkos sweepstakes begin!
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PainTrain
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1393 Posts |
Posted - 02/29/2008 : 13:39:00
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Also, if one of the committee members is gone for vacation or something. Please tell us so we can just exclude you for a couple rounds and then when you come back you could jump back in like you missed nothing. |
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nashvillepreds
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1053 Posts |
Posted - 02/29/2008 : 14:09:04
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I think Lemieux should be a part of this voting, you're only allowed to nominate 5 players per round so regardless of if Shinny seconded or not, he should be allowerd in this round. Well, it's not my decision though.
Ellis or Mason?
Go Preds Go! |
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PainTrain
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1393 Posts |
Posted - 02/29/2008 : 14:15:05
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Nash. In the top 50 since 67 one, we've had votes where we only vote for two players or 3. Judging by it anyway, Lemieux probably wouldn't have made number 1 in this round.
Edit- Nash I made a mistake in throwing it in the other forum. I apologize. If you think he's the best. You should have nominated him earlier and someone could have seconded him. We go with the players who have been nominated and seconded. We don't need to have 5 players for each vote list. If we can, that's great, but it won't happen that much. |
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nashvillepreds
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1053 Posts |
Posted - 02/29/2008 : 14:18:12
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Really? I think Lemieux was by far the best player since 93. Why isn't he number 1?
The problem is, I thought that in the first round, I had to second sombody, that's why I didn't vote for him.
Ellis or Mason?
Go Preds Go! |
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PainTrain
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1393 Posts |
Posted - 02/29/2008 : 14:20:06
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| You don't need to second someone. You second someone when the player is nominated by someone else and you feel he should be in that spot, you second him so he can be on the vote list. If you feel that Lemieux should be in this round, then you can nominate him and hope someone seconds him. Look at OILINONTARIO, he wants Bob Gainey so bad, but no one is seconding him so he isn't in the vote list so far. Nash, I'm sure the next round, if you nominate him someone will second him. |
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nashvillepreds
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1053 Posts |
Posted - 02/29/2008 : 14:23:08
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No, in the first round, I thought I had to second somebody because There were already five people. I read through the top 50 since 67 list though and now I understand how this works.
Back to our original discussion though, why isn't Lemieux the best since 93 and who's better?
Ellis or Mason?
Go Preds Go! |
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PainTrain
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1393 Posts |
Posted - 02/29/2008 : 14:26:09
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Because we're looking at his accomplishments AFTER 1993. No doubt, I do believe he deserves in the top 5, but the #2 spot in my mind should go to someone who played there primes after 1993. Lemieux's prime was in the 80's.
Edit- In the 1995-1996 playoffs, he was very dominant. Which deserves to put him up higher in my mind. #3 spot for him is a good possibility for him.
Edit-Edit- Looking again and again. His accomplishments after were still quite spectacular considering his age. I'm voting for him to be #1 next round.
I wish I was paying more attention in the earlier rounds. He defiantly should be up there. Too bad someone else didn't second him in the last round. |
Edited by - PainTrain on 02/29/2008 14:36:22 |
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nashvillepreds
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1053 Posts |
Posted - 02/29/2008 : 14:35:48
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1992-93 Pittsburgh Penguins NHL 60 69 91 160 38 11 8 10 18 10
1993-94 Pittsburgh Penguins NHL 22 17 20 37 32 6 4 3 7 2
1995-96 Pittsburgh Penguins NHL 70 69 92 161 54 18 11 16 27 33
1996-97 Pittsburgh Penguins NHL 76 50 72 122 65 5 3 3 6 4
2000-01 Pittsburgh Penguins NHL 43 35 41 76 18 18 6 11 17 4
2001-02 Pittsburgh Penguins NHL 24 6 25 31 14 -- -- -- -- --
2002-03 Pittsburgh Penguins NHL 67 28 63 91 43 -- -- -- -- --
2003-04 Pittsburgh Penguins NHL 10 1 8 9 6 -- -- -- -- --
2005-06 Pittsburgh Penguins NHL 26 7 15 22 16 -- -- -- -- --
He got a 69 goal seson in 60 and 70 games, was an amazing captain, 35 goals in 43 games, 160 points in 60 games and had a 1.78 point per game average, 0.71 goals pergame average and a 1.08 assists per game average. Find somebody who can top that.
Ellis or Mason?
Go Preds Go! |
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PainTrain
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1393 Posts |
Posted - 02/29/2008 : 14:38:12
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| Nash, read my above post. I realized now that he should be up there. I wasn't paying attention at all. Next round Nash, he will be number 1. I think that last post you made will make people know that. |
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nashvillepreds
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1053 Posts |
Posted - 02/29/2008 : 14:40:04
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Thank you for realising, I just hope everybody else does.
Ellis or Mason?
Go Preds Go! |
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admin
Forum Admin
Canada
2338 Posts |
Posted - 02/29/2008 : 14:40:36
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quote:
Originally posted by PainTrain
Because we're looking at his accomplishments AFTER 1993. No doubt, I do believe he deserves in the top 5, but the #2 spot in my mind should go to someone who played there primes after 1993. Lemieux's prime was in the 80's.
Edit- In the 1995-1996 playoffs, he was very dominant. Which deserves to put him up higher in my mind. #3 spot for him is a good possibility for him.
Edit-Edit- Looking again and again. His accomplishments after were still quite spectacular considering his age. I'm voting for him to be #1 next round.
I wish I was paying more attention in the earlier rounds. He defiantly should be up there. Too bad someone else didn't second him in the last round.
LOL!!! Pain Train this post is a classic! I love the double edit! You almost made me fall out of my chair laughing!  Sorry about lurking in your forum fellas but I think it's great that you guys are taking on your own top 20 list...so I couldn't resist keeping up on it. Good job! Cheers!
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PainTrain
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1393 Posts |
Posted - 02/29/2008 : 14:44:13
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Admin, I'm not a big fan of the double posting. So I had to keep editing haha.
And Nash, everyone will now. We'll have him as number 3 but maybe say on the side" Should be higher" if that makes you feel better! |
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nashvillepreds
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1053 Posts |
Posted - 02/29/2008 : 14:53:28
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quote:
Originally posted by admin
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Originally posted by PainTrain
Because we're looking at his accomplishments AFTER 1993. No doubt, I do believe he deserves in the top 5, but the #2 spot in my mind should go to someone who played there primes after 1993. Lemieux's prime was in the 80's.
Edit- In the 1995-1996 playoffs, he was very dominant. Which deserves to put him up higher in my mind. #3 spot for him is a good possibility for him.
Edit-Edit- Looking again and again. His accomplishments after were still quite spectacular considering his age. I'm voting for him to be #1 next round.
I wish I was paying more attention in the earlier rounds. He defiantly should be up there. Too bad someone else didn't second him in the last round.
LOL!!! Pain Train this post is a classic! I love the double edit! You almost made me fall out of my chair laughing! Sorry about lurking in your forum fellas but I think it's great that you guys are taking on your own top 20 list...so I couldn't resist keeping up on it. Good job! Cheers!
Well Admin, technically we are lurking on yiur forums so you have every right.
Ellis or Mason?
Go Preds Go! |
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admin
Forum Admin
Canada
2338 Posts |
Posted - 02/29/2008 : 14:55:10
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quote:
Originally posted by PainTrain
Admin, I'm not a big fan of the double posting. So I had to keep editing haha.
And Nash, everyone will now. We'll have him as number 3 but maybe say on the side" Should be higher" if that makes you feel better!
cool cool. Ya I was laughing at how your mind changed with each edit as you learned more about Lemieux. I could almost see the lightbulb go on in your head. It was priceless! |
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PainTrain
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1393 Posts |
Posted - 02/29/2008 : 20:11:58
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quote:
Originally posted by admin
quote:
Originally posted by PainTrain
Admin, I'm not a big fan of the double posting. So I had to keep editing haha.
And Nash, everyone will now. We'll have him as number 3 but maybe say on the side" Should be higher" if that makes you feel better!
cool cool. Ya I was laughing at how your mind changed with each edit as you learned more about Lemieux. I could almost see the lightbulb go on in your head. It was priceless!
Yes, the steps of realizing how good Lemieux was on a stupid kid. |
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shinnyafterschool
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
375 Posts |
Posted - 03/13/2008 : 06:41:00
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Can we start voting? all the noms have gone through.
"Desire is the most important factor in the success of any athlete. " |
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leafsfan_101
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1530 Posts |
Posted - 03/13/2008 : 15:24:42
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Wow, the race between Jagr and Sakic this round is intense. To make it easier I have the stats for each of the players:
Joe Sakic:
GP: 975
G: 433
A: 616
PTS: 1149
Awards:
1995-96 Conn Smythe Trophy
2000-01 Hart Memorial Trophy
2000-01 Lady Byng Memorial Trophy
2000-01 Bud Light Plus-Minus Award
2000-01 Lester B. Pearson Trophy
2003-04 NHL/Sheraton Road Performer Award
Jaromir Jagr:
GP: 1030
G: 546
A: 821
PTS: 1367
Awards:
1994-95 Art Ross Trophy
1997-98 Art Ross Trophy
1998-99 Art Ross Trophy
1998-99 Hart Memorial Trophy
1998-99 Lester B. Pearson Trophy
1999-00 Art Ross Trophy
1999-00 Lester B. Pearson Trophy
2000-01 Art Ross Trophy
Personally, I think Jagr is the better player since the 93-94 season. I hope this information helps the last remaining members who still have to vote.
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Guest8815
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Posted - 03/13/2008 : 19:11:30
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| Since you are waiting on 3 people and LF_101 isn't voting this round why doesn't LF_101 just vote aswell and whoever is the last to vote will sit out this round. |
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PainTrain
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1393 Posts |
Posted - 03/13/2008 : 20:26:23
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LF1010 I'm gonna disagree with you. Jagr was playing with one of the best players to play the game, Mario Lemieux. And he also played with Ron Francis. Of course he is going to score a lot of points with them. Who has Sakic played with? Forsberg was the only great player to play with him. But Forsberg doesn't even measure to Lemieux. Excluding Forsberg who has Sakic had to play with? Hejduk?Brunette? C'mon! Also Sakic and Forsberg weren't even on the same line. Power Play was the only time they'd play together.
For Sakic to put up those numbers with not that much help is fantastic. Switch Sakic and Jagr and see what you get. I think Sakic would have way more points then Jagr does now.
Also. Sakic is a way better Captain then Jagr will ever be. That's another thing that sets him apart. |
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Guest9194
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Posted - 03/14/2008 : 19:08:50
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| thats rediculous......i just saww someboddy nominnate MARC SAVARD as a top 20 sincee 93..... and i think the same personn put RICK NASH..................come onnn!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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PainTrain
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1393 Posts |
Posted - 03/14/2008 : 22:07:54
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| I think he might have mixed top 20 since 93 with top 30 since post lockout. Because in all honesty, Savard doesn't even measure up to some of the guys. |
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Guest9194
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Posted - 03/15/2008 : 10:36:42
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quote:
Originally posted by PainTrain
I think he might have mixed top 20 since 93 with top 30 since post lockout. Because in all honesty, Savard doesn't even measure up to some of the guys.
ya but the samme guy also nominated RICK NASH in this topic so i do not think it waas a mistake. |
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shinnyafterschool
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 03/17/2008 : 07:35:42
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Steve Yzerman: (Facts and Opinions)
137 Points in the 92/93 season. (his second best season point wise) this is the most in points gotten in a season other then Lemieux(twice), Oates, and Lafontaine and Jagr since '93. His two seasons after were cut short by injuries. Had he not been injured he would probably be top ten at least I would say. After '93 he had notable seasons of 82, 95, 85, and 74, points wise. He captained Stanley Cup teams in 97', 98, and 02. He won the Lester Patrick Trophy in 2006.
He won the Selke Trophy in 2000
He won the Conn Smythe in '98
And for good measure (although somewhat irrelevant) was ranked #6 by the hockey news in the Top 60 since 1967.
"Desire is the most important factor in the success of any athlete. " |
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ThorntonisTHEMAN
PickupHockey Pro
499 Posts |
Posted - 03/17/2008 : 09:26:48
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haha wow! i can't believe i forgot about stevie y! thanks shinny! 
"I'm not dumb enough to be a goalie."
Brett Hull. |
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PainTrain
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1393 Posts |
Posted - 03/24/2008 : 10:36:35
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Steve Yzerman and Nick Lidstrom have got to be the next two winners or else something is wrong!
Also, I see that were waiting on some people for far too long. LF101 I think we should move on without them. We can still do it without them,. |
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leafsfan_101
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1530 Posts |
Posted - 03/24/2008 : 10:46:05
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I think you are right. I am also going to fire Semin from the panel, and replace him with Shinney.
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PainTrain
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1393 Posts |
Posted - 03/24/2008 : 11:07:16
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| Welcome aboard Shinney!!! Do you have the winner of the 5th spot LF101? |
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leafsfan_101
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1530 Posts |
Posted - 04/08/2008 : 18:06:11
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Paul Kariya's Awards:
Lady Byng Memorial Trophy - 1996, 1997
NHL All-Star Roster - 1996, 1997, 1999, 2000
NHL First All-Star Team - 1996, 1997, 1999
NHL Second All-Star Team - 2000, 2003
1999 Puck Control Competition Champion
Stat Line:
GP 821
G 366
A 500
PTS 866
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PainTrain
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1393 Posts |
Posted - 04/10/2008 : 18:04:58
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| Once Nick Lidstrom is on the list I'll be moving to another player. He is a dynamic player, he's a Russian too. And it's not Pavel Bure, can you guess who it is? |
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ThorntonisTHEMAN
PickupHockey Pro
499 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2008 : 04:29:30
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Bad news, guys! I am afraid I'm gonna have to drop out of this. I am leaving on Sunday for 6 weeks and i won't have internet so I am really sorry but I think i have to back out.
"I'm not dumb enough to be a goalie."
Brett Hull. |
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PainTrain
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1393 Posts |
Posted - 04/27/2008 : 19:43:12
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| Let's do a little recount here. If you guys are still willing to do this please post in this forum that you are willing to still be in it, ok? |
Edited by - PainTrain on 04/27/2008 19:44:05 |
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