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PhillyFan12
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Posted - 03/25/2008 :  03:09:30  Show Profile
Poll Question:
who do you should be Philadelphia's Captain??

Choices:

Daniel Briere
Simon Gagne
Jason Smith
Jeff Carter
Mike Richards
Joffrey Lupul
Mike Knuble
Kimmo Timonen
Scott Hartnell
Other(who?)


Edited by - PhillyFan12 on 10/28/2008 14:40:01

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Posted - 03/25/2008 :  12:30:49
After being an Oilers fan all 14 years of my life I can say without a doubt in my mind that Jason Smith is there man. This guy is a living definition of heart when it comes to hockey. He is a relentless checker, fearless shot blocker and an overall great leader.
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PhillyFan12
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Posted - 04/04/2008 :  15:16:04  Show Profile
I think Simon Gagne should be the captain.
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Gostarsgo12
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Posted - 04/04/2008 :  15:28:20  Show Profile
Richards should be. He has stepped up this year and had a better year then there Big Free Agent Signing Briere and Phillyfan how do you give it to Gagne he already has turned down the C and after all his concussions does he even know what team he plays for?

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leafsfan_101
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Posted - 04/04/2008 :  16:07:22  Show Profile
Just because a player is skilled doesn't mean that they should be awarded the C. Crosby shouldn't be a C, Richards, Gagne or Briere shouldn't have a C.

A captain should be someone who has been there and done that and knows how to handle key situations in a season or game. They have to be able to have the influence in their locker room to make their team better then how their team looks on paper. And the only people who can do this are vetrens, the ones who know how to handle these situations because thy've arised before.

Because of this my vote goes to Jason Smith.


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PhillyFan12
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Posted - 04/05/2008 :  04:07:25  Show Profile
leafsfan_101 is right.It dont have to be the most skilled player on the team.
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brentrock2
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Posted - 04/11/2008 :  12:56:45  Show Profile
Richards is my pick tho.
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Posted - 04/12/2008 :  12:33:35
I think Philadelphia's captain should be smith.
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PainTrain
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Posted - 04/12/2008 :  23:55:40  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by leafsfan_101

Just because a player is skilled doesn't mean that they should be awarded the C. Crosby shouldn't be a C, Richards, Gagne or Briere shouldn't have a C.

A captain should be someone who has been there and done that and knows how to handle key situations in a season or game. They have to be able to have the influence in their locker room to make their team better then how their team looks on paper. And the only people who can do this are vetrens, the ones who know how to handle these situations because thy've arised before.

Because of this my vote goes to Jason Smith.






Crosby without the C? I think he rightfully deserves the Captain status. He changed the whole look of that team. He is mature way beyond his years and never thinks about individual accomplishments. He is a born leader and I don't care if he's 20 or 40, he deserves the C.

Edit- Jason Smith is their Captain for the next couple years. Then it will be Mike Richards.

Edited by - PainTrain on 04/12/2008 23:56:44
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Axey
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Posted - 04/13/2008 :  08:54:05  Show Profile
Richards has great leadership but I think its a year or two too early for him, my vote goes to Smith for now
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Posted - 04/13/2008 :  09:40:21
Phillys coach thought Richards was that good he wanted him on the team for a couple of years.But he might be bad next year.
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Posted - 04/14/2008 :  11:57:12
Gagne since hes been through the thick and the thin not to mention he was the Captain until he got hurt so I think they should stick with not only the goal scoring leader but the captain as well
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Posted - 04/15/2008 :  09:09:08
Kimmo Timonen AND Jason Smith had been longtime captains before signing with Philly. Either would be my pick.
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Posted - 04/15/2008 :  11:22:56
kimmo timonen
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lastlineofd
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Posted - 04/15/2008 :  12:18:22  Show Profile
Watching Smith captain the Oilers is all I needed to make this decision. Although not the most skilled, he was the heart of that team. Always gave 100% in a gritty workmanlike fashion. Although not my team (Oilers), always had the greatest respect for Jason Smith. Its Torres that pisses me off
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PhillyFan12
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Posted - 04/16/2008 :  03:10:17  Show Profile
well Timmonen is a bit a team leader but not good enough to be the C.
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Posted - 04/16/2008 :  11:49:39
sid the kid should be a captain he has so much heart that is my response to this






Posted - 04/04/2008 : 16:07:22
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Just because a player is skilled doesn't mean that they should be awarded the C. Crosby shouldn't be a C, Richards, Gagne or Briere shouldn't have a C.

A captain should be someone who has been there and done that and knows how to handle key situations in a season or game. They have to be able to have the influence in their locker room to make their team better then how their team looks on paper. And the only people who can do this are vetrens, the ones who know how to handle these situations because thy've arised before.

Because of this my vote goes to Jason Smith.



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Posted - 04/16/2008 :  15:47:30
agreed.. It's not supposed to be the most skilled player... offensive player... or best player... it's about character, determination,and leadership. That said, Richards is the PERFECT captain for the flyers. He was given the C long before this breakout year of his, so obviously it was given to him for the right reasons. The fact that he has raised his game and is an offensive force now is just a plus. Noone better deserving than Richards, who the people in the Philly organization compare to Bobby Clarke the 'player'. How's that for a compliment.
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brentrock2
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Posted - 04/16/2008 :  16:02:42  Show Profile
Smith is a good C
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Posted - 04/17/2008 :  01:26:33
I bet if you asked this question before game 3 less people would have picked Richards.
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Posted - 04/17/2008 :  01:33:12
quote:
Originally posted by Guest4912

Gagne since hes been through the thick and the thin not to mention he was the Captain until he got hurt so I think they should stick with not only the goal scoring leader but the captain as well



Gagne was never captain this year.
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Guest4912
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Posted - 04/17/2008 :  13:43:57
not EVERYBODY can be a captain........Lupul, Knubel, no these guys dont know the first thing about it, it takes heart,courage, determination, leadership, all the aspects of teh game rolled into one. And no I'm not saying all of your choices are bad but at least slim it down to who might deserve it. (smith, HATCHER)
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Posted - 07/02/2008 :  10:11:06
I think Smith
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Leafsfan_94
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Posted - 07/02/2008 :  10:46:15  Show Profile
smith might have the most experience but gagne has been there since his rookie year and has shined and led the team every year.

gagne is my pic

second would be smith then richards..



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Beans15
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Posted - 07/02/2008 :  11:26:59  Show Profile
Not sure if anyone else read about Jason Smith, but the guy played with not one but two dislocated shoulders in the playoffs.

When you look at a captain, it doesn't matter if they are offensively skilled or not, if they have been there before or not, or anything else. There is only one question to ask:

Can this guy be the role model of everything we want our hockey team to be???

That's it. It's different for each team.

I don't know about any of you, but if I am in a dressing room with a guy getting suited up with two separated shoulders, I would go through a brick wall with him.

That is a captain
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ThorntonisTHEMAN
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Posted - 07/02/2008 :  11:38:05  Show Profile
I watched Richards play in Kitchener and he was a great captain for the Rangers. However, I think when you got a guy like Jason SMith on your team, you have to make him captain! Richards will be Phili's captain in a few years but not yet. With that being said, none of us know the dressing room situation and such so we only know how the teams react to players and their leadership through the media. The coaches can see who the players respect the most and who is the most deserving of the "C" and will make their decision based on that.

"I'm not dumb enough to be a goalie."
Brett Hull.
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fat_elvis_rocked
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Posted - 07/02/2008 :  11:49:30  Show Profile
I've often wondered why the coach and management are the ones making that decision. For a captain, I would think you want the player that the team will play for. I had a few coaches eons ago when I used to play at the tier 1 level who tried that, had the players vote for who they thought should be captain. Worked pretty well back then.
It gave me...oops, the captain, the ability to be able to speak up when needed, and usually, the team responded.
Kinda takes the whole stats thing out of the equation that way, the players know who is their leader.

Just a thought.

Edited by - fat_elvis_rocked on 07/02/2008 11:50:48
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99pickles
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Posted - 07/02/2008 :  12:27:56  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by fat_elvis_rocked

I've often wondered why the coach and management are the ones making that decision. For a captain, I would think you want the player that the team will play for. I had a few coaches eons ago when I used to play at the tier 1 level who tried that, had the players vote for who they thought should be captain. Worked pretty well back then.
It gave me...oops, the captain, the ability to be able to speak up when needed, and usually, the team responded.
Kinda takes the whole stats thing out of the equation that way, the players know who is their leader.

Just a thought.



This is the way my team's did it too...every single one of them. Works the way it should, the right guy is picked, it is way more of an honour this way (when it is your peers that voted you the C). It's actually better for management this way too. If they want to send a message to the locker room through the guy THEY picked, he might not be as comfortable communicating it, but if it's the guy that the TEAM picked, he feels the responsibility of running straight to that dressing room to communicate it.
The team vote is the only way to do this.

Oh yeah, I voted Smith on this for obvious reasons, and Richards isn't the guy just yet, but will be soon.
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Beans15
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Posted - 07/02/2008 :  13:48:03  Show Profile
Just as a side note, Jason Smith is a UFA. He is also coming off a fairly decent injury.

The rumor I heard is that he might end up in Calgary as a #5 or #6 d-man. Smith has his main residence just outside of Calgary, so it kind of makes sense for him on a personal level.

As an Oil fan, that would be hard to stomach!
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99pickles
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Posted - 07/02/2008 :  22:07:42  Show Profile
Until recent events one may have thought that he might show back up in Edmonton. I'm not so sure now...
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pensfan17
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Posted - 07/05/2008 :  22:20:11  Show Profile
I would say Gagne or Timmonen (he was captain in Nashville)

Edited by - pensfan17 on 07/05/2008 22:20:26
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PhillyFan12
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Posted - 09/16/2008 :  12:30:50  Show Profile
yeah
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Axey
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Posted - 09/18/2008 :  10:08:11  Show Profile
Richards turns out to be the captain eh,, not bad

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PhillyFan12
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Posted - 09/18/2008 :  17:31:51  Show Profile
i heard richards is the new captain for philly.
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PhillyFan12
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Posted - 09/28/2008 :  03:17:43  Show Profile
I thought Breire was going to be the new captain for philly,but it was richards.
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Posted - 09/29/2008 :  11:47:14
Briere should be the capatain for philly.
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Canucks Man
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Posted - 09/29/2008 :  12:57:25  Show Profile
Richards is the best choice for captain his obvious leadership skills, his on ice skills. It was a very good choice for philly to name him captain.

CANUCKS RULE!!!
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PhillyFan12
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Posted - 09/30/2008 :  10:55:09  Show Profile
Briere and Richards are good choices but richards got more leadership skills what Canucks Man said.He is a good choice for philly but briere has more fancy tricks but that dont mean alot.It just means hes a good player and talented.Smith is also a good choice to,good leadership skills like richards.
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Canucks Man
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Posted - 10/01/2008 :  01:39:28  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by PhillyFan12

Smith is also a good choice to,good leadership skills like richards.


Smith is now a Senator, he signed as a free agent there.

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PhillyFan12
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Posted - 10/09/2008 :  14:14:09  Show Profile
Yeah i know,i heard smith went to ottawa,man,why did he have to go ottawa.i mad.he was a good defenceman.
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Posted - 10/11/2008 :  06:27:36
briere is my pick.
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