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canucklehead420
Top Prospect
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 Posted - 11/18/2008 : 01:52:21
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Why is Gerber not getting a chance to play?.. Auld has lost his last 4.. i know he still has a decent GAA and SAVE % but 2 of those games to the Islanders back to back. PLAY GERBER!.. what do you guys think?
Also.. I have Heatley and Spezza in my pool. I was so stoked I had the chance to pick both of them so I went ahead with it.. I sure hope these guys pick up or i'm not going to be having a very fun hockey pool year.
Just very slow start? or?.. Think they will pick up before or after the all-star break? I'm nervous! haha
Thanks for reading! Reply 
GO NUCKS
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Guest0478
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Posted - 11/18/2008 : 04:48:42
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auld has been solid and gerber...... he sucks! if gerber would'veplayed we would've been blown out by the islanders and not got a point against nyr as for spezza and heatly don't worry if they stay healthy heatley will push 50 goals and spezza will push 90 points
p.s watch for fanoleaf and his sens hating comments
p.s.s go sens go |
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Pasty7
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 11/18/2008 : 06:39:05
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Originally posted by canucklehead420
Why is Gerber not getting a chance to play?.. Auld has lost his last 4.. i know he still has a decent GAA and SAVE % but 2 of those games to the Islanders back to back. PLAY GERBER!.. what do you guys think?
Also.. I have Heatley and Spezza in my pool. I was so stoked I had the chance to pick both of them so I went ahead with it.. I sure hope these guys pick up or i'm not going to be having a very fun hockey pool year.
Just very slow start? or?.. Think they will pick up before or after the all-star break? I'm nervous! haha
Thanks for reading! Reply
GO NUCKS
the only real bright spot thus far in the sens play is Alex Auld he has been one of the leagues top goalies thus far you cant go back to gerber untill either the sens play back to back games or Auld plays poorly!
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fanoleaf
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Posted - 11/18/2008 : 07:08:22
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Canucklehead
Nottawa is used to not having good goaltending they have become accustomed to it. I hind sight for the Senioritta's maybe they should have kept Ray Emry. He at least won games and garnered meida attention for Nottawa.
As far as Heatly and Speeza, I would keep them in your pool for the regular season. They have been regular season performers. I am not sure where Spezza's head is but perhaps he finally found himself that boyfriend he has always craved and is now in love. When it comes to the playoffs, if the Seniorittas make it, get rid of them!!!! They do not perform well at all. I think they must figure that they have already won the cup and therefore do not need to play.
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Axey
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 11/18/2008 : 08:33:54
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Team for a face lift in Ottawa. They are still in belief that this team can get it done like 2007 but get there is only 1 or 2 D left from that team. They have got to start focusing on D nevermind the offense for now, as it will fix it self as we know it can. Just leave some players together for a bit to try and find some chemistry because no players can get in a groove with line changes hourly. Main focus is they must get the D together and fix the holes there.
Chicago Blackhawks GM
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Alex
PickupHockey All-Star
Canada
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Posted - 11/18/2008 : 10:05:58
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Number 1: Fanoleaf, while your content is good... please stop with the ''Notawa Senslesstors'' and all the millions of variants. It was clever the first time, but by now we get it. Just call them properly bud. Thanks 
Number 2: They should get rid of Gerber, plain and simple. To be honest, Auld isn;t the answer either, though he is the better of the two. There is no question Ottawa needs a goalie, and without it, they aren't going anywhere.
People are throwing around Spezza's name as trade bait. I don't like the idea of sending away one of the funnest playmakers in the game and splitting up the CASH line if I'm a Sens fan, but hey - Ottawa can get a heck of a lot for him, and hit two birds with one stone. 1) Ship away his complete lack of anything defensive. 2) Get a goalie. I say they should do it. Trade Spezza, dump the salaries of Auld and Gerber, and get a real goalie
Make sure to cast your votes in the PickUpHockey Hall of Fame |
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Guest6733
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Posted - 11/18/2008 : 11:39:39
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Pasty7
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Posted - 11/18/2008 : 16:34:22
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Originally posted by Alex
Number 1: Fanoleaf, while your content is good... please stop with the ''Notawa Senslesstors'' and all the millions of variants. It was clever the first time, but by now we get it. Just call them properly bud. Thanks
Number 2: They should get rid of Gerber, plain and simple. To be honest, Auld isn;t the answer either, though he is the better of the two. There is no question Ottawa needs a goalie, and without it, they aren't going anywhere.
People are throwing around Spezza's name as trade bait. I don't like the idea of sending away one of the funnest playmakers in the game and splitting up the CASH line if I'm a Sens fan, but hey - Ottawa can get a heck of a lot for him, and hit two birds with one stone. 1) Ship away his complete lack of anything defensive. 2) Get a goalie. I say they should do it. Trade Spezza, dump the salaries of Auld and Gerber, and get a real goalie
Make sure to cast your votes in the PickUpHockey Hall of Fame
Auld imo is top 4 in the league as of now,,, you cant cut him loose yet when he starts failing the look for a goalie as of now the problem lies elsewhere!!
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Guest9464
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Posted - 11/18/2008 : 16:40:25
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Gerber is awful. Heatley will only start scoring if Alfredsson is on his line. He can't do anything on his own. Lucky if he gets 30 this year.
This is the year Spezza will be moved. He will never be the player they want him to be. (But wait till he moves to a new team...)
The Sens are done. They will squeek into the playoffs this year and go out in the first round. They need an overhaul and a new coach. |
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canucklehead420
Top Prospect
Canada
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Posted - 11/18/2008 : 20:41:18
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Why would the coach split up Alfy, Spezza and Heatley line anyways? what was he thinking.. Soo Gerber to play 10 more games in the season? if thats the case.. im doomed! thanks for the feedback guys
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Posted - 11/19/2008 : 05:41:30
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Fanoleaf - go ahead and disparage the Sens as much as you want, please! They deserve it . . . hell, the Leafs get all the heat usually, it's about time underachieving Nottawa gets kick in the arse as well!
To answer the question - Auld is playing because he is playing great, period. One of the very few good coaching decisions to come out of that mixed up hockey club, IMHO.
I think Heatley and Spezza will still be among the top ten scorers at the end of the season, stick with them. And I like this rumour about Spezza getting traded . . . hey, the Leafs have lots of money still, even if we do get Sundin! Well, wishful thinking, but still . . .
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug |
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J-Dog
Top Prospect
Canada
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Posted - 11/19/2008 : 07:55:47
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Didn't Ottawa have their chance to get goaltenders? Did they not try for khabibulin? If they don't wanna anty up the dough then they won't get the player they want, and I think they are only starting to realize that. I'm not sure about cap space but it seems they should have some cash somewhere. And as for Spezza, Ottawa is probably too stuborn to trade him for what they actually need (goalie, or some D-men that can play actual D). My guess is that spezza will be traded for Gaborik. About same caliber, one's a playmaker one's a scorer and neither will ever help a team win, at least defensively speaking.
Just my view's.
I hate Ottawa lately for beaing the lack-of-heart team they are, especially since I live there, I have nothing to watch now except oldtimers, which is looking better and better every day the sens don't do something about their broken team. |
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Beans15
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Posted - 11/19/2008 : 09:42:28
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I am a little confused as to why people think that Heatley and Spezza are producing below standard. There was a comment made that "I hope they pick it up soon." What is expected. Heatley and Spezza have combined for 33 points in 18 games. That is exactly what they have done in the past.
And the problem with Ottawa is also not goaltending. Auld has done a fine job in net. It's not his fault that the rest of the team is not producing.
The issue with Ottawa is two-fold. They depleated their defense and they have absolutely no secondary scoring outside of Heatley, Spezza, and Alfredsson.
Auld has done more than what is expected. His .926 save percentage and 2.14 GAA are both top 10 in the league. In the 12 games Auld has played, Ottawa got points in 7 of them. Without question Auld is doing the job. Ottawa doesn't need goaltending. That is more than enough on pretty much any other team to win more than lose.
How about the defense? Kuba has more points than the rest of the defense combined. And, as a group, they are -17 and only 3 players are on the plus side. I think Ottawa is realizing the lose of Corvo and Redden is hitting them harder than they expected.
And there is absolutely no secondary scoring to speak of what so ever. Heatley (18 points), Spezza (15) and Alfie (17) are carrying the load once again. The next closest player has 6 points. Combined, the rest of the forwards (excluding the big three) have a combined 38 points and 16 goals. That's less than 1 a game!!! That just won't cut it. Players like Fisher, Vermette, Kelly, and McAmmond have to step up and earn their pay. To this point, they have done nothing.
Granted, I still think that this team has the talent to do very well. They have the 5th lowest goals allowed in the league and thier PK is ranked 5th as well. Their PP should be better, but it's not too bad at 12th in the league. The primary issue is offense and the amount of shots given up. However, I think the biggest reason they have crapped the bed so far was said by a previous poster. They have no heart. Really, since the lost to Anaheim in the finals 2 seasons ago, this team has way underperformed based on their talent and potential. I still think Brian Murray is one of the best GM's in the game and has built a team that can win. However, they can't seem to find a coach that can make them reach the potential and expectations. Ultimately, Ottawa would be a top team(if not THE top team) in the East if their had any kind of secondary scoring and if their defense stepped up and didn't allow 30+ shots a game! |
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fanoleaf
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Posted - 11/19/2008 : 15:50:44
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Originally posted by Alex
Number 1: Fanoleaf, while your content is good... please stop with the ''Notawa Senslesstors'' and all the millions of variants. It was clever the first time, but by now we get it. Just call them properly bud. Thanks
Number 2: They should get rid of Gerber, plain and simple. To be honest, Auld isn;t the answer either, though he is the better of the two. There is no question Ottawa needs a goalie, and without it, they aren't going anywhere.
People are throwing around Spezza's name as trade bait. I don't like the idea of sending away one of the funnest playmakers in the game and splitting up the CASH line if I'm a Sens fan, but hey - Ottawa can get a heck of a lot for him, and hit two birds with one stone. 1) Ship away his complete lack of anything defensive. 2) Get a goalie. I say they should do it. Trade Spezza, dump the salaries of Auld and Gerber, and get a real goalie
Make sure to cast your votes in the PickUpHockey Hall of Fame
Alex, how I decide to refer to a team is my choice, I already have a father and do not need you to direct me as to what I should be saying.
The names I use to refer to the Seniorittas is my choice and not a jab at you. How is me calling that team other names than the Ottawa Senators any different than Leaf haters refering to the Maple Leafs by other names?
GO LEAFS GO!!!!!!
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MrD
Top Prospect
Canada
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Posted - 11/19/2008 : 21:10:40
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Fanoleaf, you're right, no ones trying to be your daddy here, but it's true that it's kinda like that annoying little kid that makes the same jokes over and over, and over. Funny and maybe somewhat clever the first time, not so much the 40th time. Stick to intelligent hockey sense like you have in some other posts I've read and leave the comedy to the pros.
Otherwise, I think Beans has got 'er bang on. Heatley and Spezza will continue to produce as they have in the past. Auld is playing exceptionally well, and far better than we could have expected. The problem lies in poor point production from our 2-4 liners. Fish is supposed to bang and add grit with a bit of scoring, but seems to get injured too often for his style of play and isn't really scoring (huge drought to start the year). Vermette isn't producing near expectations, and other guys like McAmmond just aren't hackin' it either. I do say though that Kelly, as a role player (PK being his role) is doing as much as he should be. Then there's the shaky D (led surprisingly by Kuba whom I thought was going to be another bloody Commodore..) We need better outlet passers because when we get stuck in our friggin' zone for more than 30 seconds, the puck almost always ends up in our net.
That being said, I believe it's still early and we'll turn around no problem. Spezza is nice traid bait, but I'd be reluctant to trade him away because it seems that when we do that the player suddenly finds his game again (or develops other aspects of his game that were previously non-existent ie defensive vision). Instead I'd wait for the panic to wear out, for the players to let the tight grip on their sticks loosen, and for the swagger to come back naturally. If I do recall, we started the 06-07 season going less than 50% through 20 and ended up goin' the furthest in our modern history. Oh, and Hartsburg has to be willing to put the big 3 back together because them putting pucks in the net is what will give the rest of the team confidence. They're all trying to turn the team around themselves right now, so when the pressure is off players as individuals, they'll play with enthusiasm rather than fear, and bang, top of the east here we are.
Go Sens Go
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Matt_Roberts85
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 11/20/2008 : 10:26:06
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It just seems to me that the culture of losing surrounding Ottawa has been very difficult to break. I think they need a serious overhaul. They need the alfredsson era to end and bring in a solid canadian captain, just like the leafs have to do now that sundin is gone. They have to get rid of the guys who have been around for all the playoff collapses. Just like the leafs had to dump all the guys who have been around for the last 3 losing seasons. I could be wrong and maybe they just need to wake up or tweak a few roster spots but to me the problem goes deeper than that.
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E". |
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Guest4803
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Posted - 11/20/2008 : 14:48:33
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| no way is auld a top 4 goalie in the league... |
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J-Dog
Top Prospect
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Posted - 11/20/2008 : 21:23:47
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Guest4803, Auld is top 5 in the league in stats right now, maybe not really one of the 5 best goalies but like I said, as far as stats go, he's up there. Have a look, right now he is at 2.14 GAA and .916 SV%, 6th and 8th respectively (without counting tonight's game). He's got about the same stats as luongo... who is at least top 5 in the league in my book.
Gerber has been inconsistent ever since he was in Carolina, Sens shouldn't and probably wont play him.
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Guest5285
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Posted - 11/20/2008 : 22:19:53
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| to fanoleaf regarding your comments on how the SENATORS will all but choke in the playoffs. at least they can make the playoffs. |
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fanoleaf
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Posted - 11/21/2008 : 04:14:11
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Guest 5285 I was refering to Spezza and Heatley if you had of taken the time to read. That is what canuklehead had asked about the 2 players for his pool.
What position are the Sens in right now 29TH? Long way to to go. |
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Posted - 11/21/2008 : 07:55:58
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| whens the last time the leafs made the playoffs?long way to go, too bad playoffs wern't right now or the toronto would have a parade for them finally making it in what 3 years? |
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Guest4068
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Posted - 11/21/2008 : 08:37:06
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I completely agree with you. I also have Spezza and Heatley in my pool. Gerber needs his chance. I have no idea why they always keep him on the back burner. They did that to Gerber when they had Emery, and look where Emery is now! I have a feeling the Sens are warming up. Just remember that last year they had the worst start in the beginning of the season and then did really well in the last half.
Keep ur chin up dude. GO SENS GO!! Sorry, I ain't no Nuck fan.. |
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Posted - 11/21/2008 : 09:42:46
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Guest4803, Auld is top 5 in the league in stats right now, maybe not really one of the 5 best goalies but like I said, as far as stats go, he's up there. Have a look, right now he is at 2.14 GAA and .916 SV%, 6th and 8th respectively (without counting tonight's game). He's got about the same stats as luongo... who is at least top 5 in the league in my book.
Gerber has been inconsistent ever since he was in Carolina, Sens shouldn't and probably wont play him.
-J-Dog
6th and 8th......neither are top 5 in the category....does he have as many shutouts and wins as luongo? he must because the sens are 15th in the east and canucks are 3rd in the west....he has the worst fivehole in the entire game, i watched him lose a playoff series because of it in Van. He is a good backup goalie he is not a #1 and sure isnt a top 5 goalie in the league... |
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Guest2622
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Posted - 11/21/2008 : 10:32:05
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I completely agree with you. I also have Spezza and Heatley in my pool. Gerber needs his chance. I have no idea why they always keep him on the back burner. They did that to Gerber when they had Emery, and look where Emery is now! I have a feeling the Sens are warming up. Just remember that last year they had the worst start in the beginning of the season and then did really well in the last half.
Keep ur chin up dude. GO SENS GO!! Sorry, I ain't no Nuck fan..
Um, Gerber had his chance and did absolutely nothing with it. In fact, he's had several .The thing to remember with Auld is that he was drafted to be a starter (40th pick overall). Sometimes it takes goalies a little longer to develop. He is only 27, and this is precisely where goalies often start to bloom. Right now, Auld is head and shoulders abover Gerber. Further, someone mentioned that the Sens should dump Auld's salary. It's only $1M. He could very well end up being the steal of the FA market and Ottawa's future goalie.
With all that being said, there is only one thing left:
GO HABS!!!!!!! |
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Guest4910
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Posted - 11/21/2008 : 10:45:35
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| I agree, Gerber had several chances, and not only with the Sens but with the Hurricanes also. Gerber was awful in playoffs vs Montreal, and Ward took his spot even as a rookie to go on and win the Stanley Cup. Gerber was so bad with the Sens that Emery took his spot and develop a big ego. Anyways, if the Sens had a true #1 goalie in the last 15 years, they might have won 2 or 3 Stanley Cup. |
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Posted - 11/28/2008 : 09:59:58
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I agree, Gerber had several chances, and not only with the Sens but with the Hurricanes also. Gerber was awful in playoffs vs Montreal, and Ward took his spot even as a rookie to go on and win the Stanley Cup. Gerber was so bad with the Sens that Emery took his spot and develop a big ego. Anyways, if the Sens had a true #1 goalie in the last 15 years, they might have won 2 or 3 Stanley Cup.
Don't forget, he was given quite a few games in Anaheim as well. |
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fanoleaf
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Posted - 11/30/2008 : 18:38:16
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| One dimesional team, poor defence, questionable goaltending and a one line scoring team. Once split up none of them other than maybe bozo the clown score |
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Posted - 11/30/2008 : 19:05:07
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Originally posted by fanoleaf
One dimesional team, poor defence, questionable goaltending and a one line scoring team. Once split up none of them other than may bozo the clown score
who is may? brad may? when did ottawa get brad may? |
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J-Dog
Top Prospect
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Posted - 11/30/2008 : 19:46:57
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Guest just because he is 1 spot out doesn't mean he is worthless, and how many goalies are top 5 in both categories? And you are helping my case when your talking about wins, if Auld had as good a team in front of him as Luongo, he'd have more wins for sure and possibly more shut-outs. The fact is Auld is keeping a desperate team that isn't scoring in a lot of games. So just because he isn't "top 5" per say and he is "top ten" , doesn't make him bad. At least he is doing a much better job than Gerber.
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Odin
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Posted - 12/01/2008 : 14:10:32
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Originally posted by fanoleaf
One dimesional team, poor defence, questionable goaltending and a one line scoring team. Once split up none of them other than maybe bozo the clown score
Here we go again! Fanoleaf, have you not been paying attention? A 2.02 and .926 sv% is questionable??!! What does that make a goalie with a 3.13 GAA and an .886 sv%? An ECHL goalie?
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Posted - 12/02/2008 : 11:05:17
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| ottawa has actually allowed the second least amount of goals in the east right now right behind boston. But they are not performing on offense like they used to, they need someone other then line 1 to step it up. |
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