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Guest4271
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 Posted - 01/23/2009 : 02:12:28
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Here it is, Heatley to Bruins for Fernandez, young Wheeler, and a draft pick. This would solidify Boston as a whole. Heatley, Savard and Kessel, thats an all-star front line
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Lunchbox
Top Prospect
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Posted - 01/23/2009 : 03:36:48
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Boston needs solidifying?
Sorry...I hate it when people leave smart-ass opinions and dont back them up a bit, so here goes. I dont think that Boston needs to be doing any sort of trading, unless they get a steal at the deadline. Sure they have arguably two number ones, but trading a goalie midseason never seems to get you as much.
That being said, would be good for Ottawa though...they need a solid go to guy in net and the big three arent producing as well as they should. |
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Avalanche_17
Top Prospect
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Posted - 01/23/2009 : 04:19:34
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Originally posted by Lunchbox
Boston needs solidifying?
Sorry...I hate it when people leave smart-ass opinions and dont back them up a bit, so here goes. I dont think that Boston needs to be doing any sort of trading, unless they get a steal at the deadline. Sure they have arguably two number ones, but trading a goalie midseason never seems to get you as much.
That being said, would be good for Ottawa though...they need a solid go to guy in net and the big three arent producing as well as they should.
Completely agree. Boston has been playing great. All the players are playing excellent together and producing, why would you want to muddle the line-ups? They have a shot at the Stanley Cup so why would they jepordize that? Sure Heatley is a great player but I don't see that working out well. |
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Matt_Roberts85
PickupHockey Pro
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Posted - 01/23/2009 : 07:19:12
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Dany Heatley is worth WAY more than that in a trade. Fernandez will be a FA this summer and could be signed by ottawa then. Wheeler is good, but he is NOT Dany Heatley. If I was an Ottawa fan, I would lose my mind if they made that deal. Boston would be laughing.
Although, the 8 mil a year contract (or whatever it is...) would be a tough pill to swallow for the Bruins going forward. I wouldn't see them making that deal strictly because of the contract Heatley has
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E". |
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Odin
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Canada
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Posted - 01/23/2009 : 08:59:37
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| Heatley is signed for 6 years, including this year. His contract averages 7.5M, But is completely front end loaded. He is making $10M this year, which is the biggest year of the contract. That would make it even more advantageous for Boston because the biggest year of the contract would pretty much be finished and lowers the overall average for the remaining years. $5M of that was a signing bonus that has already been paid. |
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hanley6
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Posted - 01/23/2009 : 16:11:52
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| I'd like to see Toronto sign Fernandez, They need a decent goalie |
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Guest6970
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Posted - 01/23/2009 : 17:58:40
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Originally posted by Lunchbox
Boston needs solidifying?
Sorry...I hate it when people leave smart-ass opinions and dont back them up a bit, so here goes. I dont think that Boston needs to be doing any sort of trading, unless they get a steal at the deadline. Sure they have arguably two number ones, but trading a goalie midseason never seems to get you as much.
That being said, would be good for Ottawa though...they need a solid go to guy in net and the big three arent producing as well as they should.
boston is great as it is now, but enough to win the cup? i think not. san jose has much more depth in all fields than boston and although it is a great matchup, boston will not win the cup with the team they have now. however, with heatley, it could get interesting... (but i still see san jose on top) |
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leigh
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Posted - 01/23/2009 : 18:18:45
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That deal is a no-brainer for Boston, it would be a steel for them and therefore it will not happen. Boston would have to give up a hell of a lot more to Ottawa for Dany Heatley (one of the league's most dominant goal scorers!)
I would agree with those that say Boston is an amazing team, but needs a little tweak to become a Stanley Cup team. Depth is one thing, but I'm not sure they need to sell the farm for a guy like Heatley.
Ottawa woudn't take this deal, and Boston wouldn't offer more, so I can't see this deal happening. |
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Guest6901
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Posted - 01/23/2009 : 18:56:32
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| Does anybody remember Heatly in the playoff's last year, 0 points,8 shots on goal. |
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Guest5285
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Posted - 01/23/2009 : 20:22:55
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| while on paper the deal is a gift to the bruins, i wouldnt pull the trigger. wheeler is too much to lose. fernandez may come in handy since he kind of had a playoff run in '03 when the wild made the western finals. if anything the team needs more defence, which is hard to say with solid guys like chara and ward, not to mention wideman starting to shine and hnidy hitting everything that moves. people are forgetting this offence is already amazing, and for the last week or two they have been missing lucic, kessel, bergeron, and sturm. they are still winning hockey games. i'd rather have savard, krejci, or kessel instead of heatley. |
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KariyaSelanne
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Posted - 01/24/2009 : 19:43:01
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Originally posted by hanley6
I'd like to see Toronto sign Fernandez, They need a decent goalie
The problem with Toronto is they take good goalies and make them bad. Think about it Raycroft, Calder trophy winner, good goalie, BAM Toronto comes along, he plays like crap, Avalanche pick him up, plays good again. Toskala is still good, but i'm guessing the same thing is gonna happen to him. |
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Guest4271
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Posted - 01/27/2009 : 05:42:58
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| although Wheeler is gonna be really good, I still believe this would be good. Savard and Heatley looked pretty good at all-star game. Wouldn't put Krecji with Savard, he is the secondary scoring that all teams need |
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Beans15
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Posted - 01/27/2009 : 07:26:38
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Heatley for a borderline #1 goalie, a rookie, and a draft pick?? Man, would the GM's in the NHL ever love a guy like this??
Heatley is one of the top 5 pure goal scorers in the game, along with Ovechkin, Kovalchuk, Iginla, and Lecavalier. And don't give me all the stat garbage of who did what and when. Great players have great long term stats. It's that simple. The stats are the symptom of their play.
And Fernandez has proven through his career that he is a bonified starter that really doesn't do that well playing a full schedule. He can play great doing back up minutes or splitting the workload (as he did with Roloson in Minnesota).
Heatley's half way to having a 500 goal career, and considering that many people think he is "off his game" he is still ranked 11th in the league in scoring. Most teams would love to have a guy that has an off year in the top 10 in the league!
So let's trade a 35 yr old, soon to be UFA goalie, a rookie(al biet a good one but definately not Heatley), and a draft pick for a 28 yr old player(some would say has not hit his prime and has at least 8 year of top of the league performance left in his) who is one of the best goal scorers in the league, can play any forward position, the PP and PK, and is under contract through 2015??
Head.
Shake.
Now. |
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Guest4271
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Posted - 01/27/2009 : 07:45:25
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| hey, I got what I wanted......... reaction, but you have to start something decent to talk about on here, and thats what I did, lmao |
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Reeder17
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Posted - 01/27/2009 : 10:35:15
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Originally posted by hanley6
I'd like to see Toronto sign Fernandez, They need a decent goalie
They've had several decent goalies...Toronto just picks their goalies apart.
Crosby is not the Jesus Lord & Savior of the NHL, get over yourself McGuire.
Gretzky has never once high-sticked a member of the Toronto Maple Leafs. |
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Guest7735
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Posted - 01/27/2009 : 12:57:21
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Originally posted by KariyaSelanne
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Originally posted by hanley6
I'd like to see Toronto sign Fernandez, They need a decent goalie
The problem with Toronto is they take good goalies and make them bad. Think about it Raycroft, Calder trophy winner, good goalie, BAM Toronto comes along, he plays like crap, Avalanche pick him up, plays good again. Toskala is still good, but i'm guessing the same thing is gonna happen to him.
Did you forget the year in between his calder winning season and his debut with the Leafs? It was terrible. I think he had like 8 wins in 30 something games. He was bad even before he came to Toronto. And hey, he had 37 wins in his first season with toronto, 1 point shy of a playoff birth. Not that bad really..... but he let in bad goals at bad times. |
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Guest9235
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Posted - 01/27/2009 : 14:34:50
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Originally posted by Lunchbox
Boston needs solidifying?
Sorry...I hate it when people leave smart-ass opinions and dont back them up a bit, so here goes. I dont think that Boston needs to be doing any sort of trading, unless they get a steal at the deadline. Sure they have arguably two number ones, but trading a goalie midseason never seems to get you as much.
That being said, would be good for Ottawa though...they need a solid go to guy in net and the big three arent producing as well as they should.
A midseason trade for roloson sure benefited the Oilers back in 06 |
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KariyaSelanne
PickupHockey Pro
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Posted - 01/27/2009 : 15:37:45
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Originally posted by Guest7735
Did you forget the year in between his calder winning season and his debut with the Leafs? It was terrible. I think he had like 8 wins in 30 something games. He was bad even before he came to Toronto. And hey, he had 37 wins in his first season with toronto, 1 point shy of a playoff birth. Not that bad really..... but he let in bad goals at bad times.
Can you really expect a rookie goalie to do amazing in there first ever NHL playoffs? Well, maybe Patrick Roy but thats about it. |
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Guest2197
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Posted - 01/27/2009 : 16:31:34
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| ya ok, this is the dumbest thing i've ever heard... |
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hanley6
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 01/27/2009 : 21:02:41
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| that would easily be a steal for Ottawa |
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hanley6
PickupHockey Pro
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Posted - 01/27/2009 : 21:07:02
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Originally posted by KariyaSelanne
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Originally posted by Guest7735
Did you forget the year in between his calder winning season and his debut with the Leafs? It was terrible. I think he had like 8 wins in 30 something games. He was bad even before he came to Toronto. And hey, he had 37 wins in his first season with toronto, 1 point shy of a playoff birth. Not that bad really..... but he let in bad goals at bad times.
Can you really expect a rookie goalie to do amazing in there first ever NHL playoffs? Well, maybe Patrick Roy but thats about it.
Felix Potvin was amazing in his rookie year in the playoffs, so Patrick Roy was not the only one, infact Felix Potvin should have won Vezina Trophy in his rookie year |
Edited by - hanley6 on 01/27/2009 21:09:06 |
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Guest7143
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Guest1738
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Posted - 01/31/2009 : 05:41:58
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(Here it is, Heatley to Bruins for Fernandez, young Wheeler, and a draft pick. This would solidify Boston as a whole. Heatley, Savard and Kessel, thats an all-star front line)?????
Are you nuts? The Bruins do not need any more scoring - they are 2nd in the league at putting the puck in the net and 1st at keeping it out.
Heatley is -7. Why would the Bruins want a defensive liability like that? |
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Guest1738
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Posted - 01/31/2009 : 05:43:39
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| Ken Dryden was quite amazing in the playoffs during his rookie year. |
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