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Posted - 06/05/2009 :  22:35:49  Reply with Quote
Maybe the leafs should sign Havlat.

JOSHUACANADA
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Posted - 06/06/2009 :  09:15:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I would, but Im not Burke. Burke likes gritty bangem around type players on the cheap, not a half a season injury prone type player who is considered small framed. That being said, Havlat is gifted offensively. Could be in the top 20 for points if he was healthy with complimentary players, like he already has in Chicago.
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Posted - 06/08/2009 :  05:08:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
JC - not so fast, I wouldn't say that Burke only sticks to big tough players . . . he has had some skilled players on his teams that he really liked (Selanne, Naslund, the Sedins, etc). Curiously, they have all been European.

Havlat fits into the same mold, except for his one big problem - injuries. Does that mean that he would be able to sign him for much cheaper than someone compareable when healthy - say, a Hossa? I think so . . . does this make him all the more attractive? Maybe.

I predict that Burke will sign at least one big name, and Havlat is definitely one of the possibilities.

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Beans15
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Posted - 06/08/2009 :  09:21:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think the biggest problem with this is that Havlat wants to stay in Chicago and the Blackhawks want to resign him.


That being said, who knows if Chicago can resign him. They have many young players and they will have to sacrifice some of their stars eventually to keep others.

And, if Havlat is one of those scarificial lambs, who's to say that TO is his pick of placed to go. Did he not leave the Sens because of the media spot light and the expectations the fans had of him?? That would only be 1000% times magnified in TO.


Plus, he would look brilliant on the wing opposite Hemsky.
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Posted - 06/08/2009 :  16:01:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Although Havlat brings huge offensive potential i do not see him in T.O.
A lot of teams would shy away from signing him because of the injury bug. He is also known for taking nights off on the ice and not giving 100% every game.
There are some teams that would benefit from taking a shot at him. Edmonton and Colorado come to mind first. Atlanta could use someone besides Kovalchuk. If Sundin doesn't resign in Vancouver, Havlat would be a nice addition out there. Minnesota may need someone to take Gaboriks spot. Several teams would be a better fit for Havlat then T.O.
You never know what Burke will do, so who ends up in T.O. on draft day and after July 1 Free Agency will be anyones guess. He will likely be looking to make a big first impression so I think something unexpected will happen.
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Beans15
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Posted - 06/08/2009 :  18:01:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Excellent points Mr. Chop. There are many teams out there (I would say about 30) who would be interested in a PPG winger. However, the injury issues might reduce that list down to about 28.

All kidding aside, Burke has not been a huge chaser of talent in the UFA pool, and he has never over paid for a play he wants. He pays fair market value and no more.

Havlat, if he doesn't sign with Chicago, will get $5-7 million/season from someone. I can't see Burke paying that much. But the likes of Minnesota, Los Angeles, and Edmonton definately would. I don't see Vancouver because they have to pay the Sedins (who appear eager to stay in Van) a pretty penny and might not have enough to spend on a Havlat type.


However, off topic a bit, Ohlund and the Canucks are not even talking and it's a forgone conclussion that he will be a UFA in July. Now that is a piece that Burke will definately be interested in and has a reasonable shot at signing. That's my gut as a big player landing in TO.
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Posted - 06/09/2009 :  04:36:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, the list is a lot smaller than 28 . . . not everyone has the cap room, and in that case in particular, Toronto is in one of the best positions.

Burke may not want to risk a season full of injuries, however, and like some have mentioned here, Havlat may not want the bringht spotlight that the Toronto market brings.

I say it's quite likely he goes for around 4-4.5 mil/season, however.

I don't see Minnesota replacing their oft-injured superstar with another one . . . who needs to relive that pain? LA doesn't need scoring (we are talking about a relatively one-dimensional player here), and Edmonton . . . they would take him, if they had the cap room, and for the right price. But the injuries will scare off a lot of buyers in a very tight-fisted market, where very few will want to spend upwards of 4 million for a player that for the last 5 seasons has averaged 51.6 games per season (last year really saved him).

I say the market is pretty small for him, actually - same as Gaborik.

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Rambo2305
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Posted - 06/09/2009 :  11:17:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Honestly, Havlat is good, but he's injury prone. If that's the case, take the same money, and sign Gaborik.

Look at Gabby's career stats, focus on his Points Per Game, if he was healthy, 100+ points every year!

"Most people spend time and energy going around problems, rather than trying to solve them" - Henry Ford
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