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Mikey Boy
Rookie
Canada
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 Posted - 11/12/2009 : 06:52:42
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Assuming that the obvious makes team Canada ( Crosby, Nash, Thornton, Iginla, Heatley, Getzlaf, M Richards, Carter, Perry) who will the last three be?
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Mikey Boy
Rookie
Canada
103 Posts |
Posted - 11/12/2009 : 06:58:22
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I am a fan of all the players trying to crack the line-up, however i will not strictly base my decisions on how these guys are performing this year alone. Some players over the last few years really raised my eyebrows, and to me deserve team Canada over a player who's having a good start to this reg. season.
So here is my final three spots with two reserves.
Lecavalier, Staal + Marleau
Reserves - St. Louis + Doan
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Posted - 11/12/2009 : 07:21:45
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Why on Earth would you put in Lecavalier. He hasn't earned it, he's not playing well enough to take a spot away from a guy like smyth or even Brad Richards (if you're adding another center). For that matter I'd put St Louis and Doan ahead of Lecavalier as they are natural wingers.
RW - Iginla, Perry, St.Louis and.... Doan
LW - Nash, Heatley .... Smyth
C - Crosby, Thornton, Getzlaf, Richards, Carter, Marleau, Richards B, Staal, Savard, Lecavalier
Other C's who could get consideration: Stamkos, Sharp, McDonald, Spezza, Toews
Other LW's: Cammalleri, Penner
Some of our C's could move to a wing, maybe Marleau and Carter... But either way I think we are now too deep for Lecavalier as he's taken a step back. |
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Posted - 11/12/2009 : 07:58:09
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I like your picks, Mikey, but also disagree on Lecav. I can make a pretty good case for why St. Louis is not only better now, but has always been better and people have just ignored him because Lecavalier's 'domination potential' is higher. But he never brings it. St. Louis always brings it. Each night.
Iginla - Crosby - Nash
Heatley - Thornton - Perry
Carter - M. Richards - St. Louis
Marleau - Getzlaf - Smyth
Staal as bonus guy.
Marleau I'm banking more due to this season's production. I'm pretty sure he's not involved, but that's the only reason I'm not mentioning Marc Savard, who I otherwise think is an easy shoe-in, knocking Marleau out. |
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Alex116
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Posted - 11/12/2009 : 08:07:23
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Originally posted by Guest9838
Why on Earth would you put in Lecavalier. He hasn't earned it, he's not playing well enough to take a spot away from a guy like smyth or even Brad Richards (if you're adding another center). For that matter I'd put St Louis and Doan ahead of Lecavalier as they are natural wingers.
RW - Iginla, Perry, St.Louis and.... Doan
LW - Nash, Heatley .... Smyth
C - Crosby, Thornton, Getzlaf, Richards, Carter, Marleau, Richards B, Staal, Savard, Lecavalier
Other C's who could get consideration: Stamkos, Sharp, McDonald, Spezza, Toews
Other LW's: Cammalleri, Penner
Some of our C's could move to a wing, maybe Marleau and Carter... But either way I think we are now too deep for Lecavalier as he's taken a step back.
I agree that Lecavalier has taken a step back and is in tough to make the squad. Not saying he's off at this point, but i assume he's gonna have to have a really good next 5 weeks to crack that lineup.
Check out this article. Here's one guy (or a group, not sure?) who has Doan as an "absolute lock" to make the squad. He wouldn't be a "lock" to me, but he would make my final 3 if we go with Mikey Boy's top 9? BTW, from what i read today in the paper, they're likely going with 13 forwards and 7 defense?
My 3 at this point would be:
Doan
Marleau
Morrow
Doan and Morrow play such good two way games that i think they could help in a checking role, which every team needs. Marleau's had such a hot start, i can't see him being passed over. He came into this season, having been stripped of the captaincy in SJ and look at what he's done! Must have a pretty good attitude as well?
Interesting point in the article "Team Canada will be named December 31. But official rosters aren't submitted until the Games begin on February 13, 2010. So roster changes can be made up until then." Obviously this is for injury replacements for the most part, but i wonder if someone slumps really bad if they'd be replaced or just end up as the 13th forward?
Oh yeah, here's the article :
http://proicehockey.about.com/od/olympichockey/a/2010-canada-roster.htm
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Pasty7
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 11/12/2009 : 09:05:15
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hate to break it to you St Louis and Doan are more of a lock for this team then most everyone you mentioned,,, st louis is having a tremendous year and Doan is the strong character player who will be wearing a letter on his jersey for Canada this year,,
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Beans15
Moderator
Canada
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Posted - 11/12/2009 : 10:01:01
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I can't see, at this point anyway, how Ryan Smyth and Patrick Marleau do not make this team. Those two guys can not only play in every sitation, but also play multiple positions. And even though the are very versitile, they still bring something of their own to the team. St. Louis is very much like this as well.
I question Carter on this team. I think other players have done more to be there.
Everyone is talking about how poorly Lecavalier is playing. 14 points in 15 games, -5. He plays on a bad team, so the +/- is tough to talk about. However, his scoring is pretty much the same as guys like Mike Richards, Jeff Carter, and even Sidney Crosby.
I think the Lecavalier staying home is being put in your head by the media. He's doing no worse than some of the 'locks' for the team. He is playing a little bit uninspired hockey to this point, but he's not underproducing by much if at all.
If I was picking TODAY(meaning it might change in 6 weeks with injuries, etc), my group would be
Nash - Crosby - Iginla
Heatley - Thornton - St. Louis
Perry - Getzlaf - Penner (that's right, I said Penner!)
Doan - Marleau - Smyth
Taxi Squad - V. Lecavalier, Brad or Mike Richards(not sure which one yet), Brenden Morrow
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Posted - 11/12/2009 : 10:05:40
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I agree that St. Louis and Doan will make the team.
1) They have a lot of experience playing for team Canada
2) They are both team guys that don't mind the third or fourth line assignments
3) They both are excellent defensive players who can also score
4) They are also top special teams players (specifically, the penalty kill)
Remember, it's Yzerman building the team . . . one of the top defensive forward of his day. Lecavalier is looking a bit shabby this year, and his size, experience and former greatness may not be enough to get him in, I think.
I am not sure Perry is a lock per se, but I think he'll make it - so my last three are:
St.Louis
Doan
E.Staal
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HawkinOilCountry
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
318 Posts |
Posted - 11/12/2009 : 10:46:33
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Nash - Crosby - Iginla
Heatley - Thornton - St. Louis
Doan - Marleau - Smyth
Perry - Getzlaf - Morrow
The arena wall in chicago should be credited with a goal. |
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Leafs81
PickupHockey Pro
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Posted - 11/12/2009 : 11:47:43
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It's a ever changing team. but right now my forwards would be.
Nash, Crosby, Iginla (scoring unit)
Getzlaf, Thornton, Heatley (scoring unit)
Smyth, M. Richards, E. Staal (shut down line)
Lucic, Toews, Marleau (energy line)
This way you have Smyth for PK and experience, Richards for PK and leadership, Toews for shoutout and leadership, Lucic for intimidation and crushing hits. So I would definetly put those 4. And I chose E.Staal because he proved in the pass that he knows how to win and Marleau is having such a great season it's hard to keep him out.
I'm not too sure about E.Staal and Marleau. Others who could fill their spots are, Doan, St-Louis, J. Staal, Perry, Morrow, B. Richards, M. Savard and J. Carter. So many good players it's hard to agree with one lineup. But I would definetly stick with my two first lines and the other four I mentioned for different reasons.
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phlyguy90
Rookie
USA
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Posted - 11/12/2009 : 11:52:45
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| beans are you serious? why would you even consider not having mike richards on this team? |
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phlyguy90
Rookie
USA
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Posted - 11/12/2009 : 11:53:26
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| and come on man....dustin penner? dont be that guy!! |
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Beans15
Moderator
Canada
8286 Posts |
Posted - 11/12/2009 : 12:19:23
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I'm not saying that this is anywhere close to how it will look in February, but you can't argue that Richards is head and shoulders above the players at his position. You can argue that Penner (this season) is one of the best, if not the best, at his position.
On a team that will already have more centres than needed, a actual winger who can play all situations and is 6'4" and 245 lbs gets the spot over another 5'11" 195 centre. There are at least 4-5 Canadian centres who have played as well or better than Richards. There are zero Canadian right wingers who have outplayed Penner this season.
You be the Richards guy if you like, and I respect that. I'll be the winning guy. |
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Guest9838
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Posted - 11/12/2009 : 12:33:55
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| It's also interesting that you re-united the Penner-Getzlaf-Perry line from the cup winning Ducks (I think that was the line right?) |
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Posted - 11/12/2009 : 12:34:39
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Originally posted by Beans15
I'm not saying that this is anywhere close to how it will look in February, but you can't argue that Richards is head and shoulders above the players at his position. You can argue that Penner (this season) is one of the best, if not the best, at his position.
On a team that will already have more centres than needed, a actual winger who can play all situations and is 6'4" and 245 lbs gets the spot over another 5'11" 195 centre. There are at least 4-5 Canadian centres who have played as well or better than Richards. There are zero Canadian right wingers who have outplayed Penner this season.
You be the Richards guy if you like, and I respect that. I'll be the winning guy.
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Guest9838
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Posted - 11/12/2009 : 12:35:21
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By interesting I meant I like it... looking for chemistry that was there before.
I'm not saying he should be on the team come Feb, but he's deserving of a look today no doubt. |
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tbar
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 11/12/2009 : 12:38:57
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Beans me and a couple buddys were having beers the other night and started talking team Canada. Everybody was firing off names and I decided to say Dustin Penner was a top 9 guy for me on this team at this point. And yes everybody jumped all over me on this one and said no way. I said well you can take probably 20 player's with more skill but not a single one of those guys can hold theyre ground in front of the net against Chara.
And anpther thing to note is Stevie Y has said hes going with the player's who are playing well this year rather then the guys who were stars 4 years ago. And Penner is arguably a top 10 player in the NHL to this point. |
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Sensfan101
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
500 Posts |
Posted - 11/12/2009 : 14:41:11
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Did you say Perry was one of the locks? Are you serious I would be shocked if he made the team
Last three forwards Marleau Stamkos and St. Louis
You miss 100 percent of the shots you don't take Wayne Gretzky |
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brentrock2
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
571 Posts |
Posted - 11/12/2009 : 15:22:09
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It will maybe be like this:
1st line:
(LW) Dany Heatley (C) Vincent Lecavalier (RW) Jarome Iginla
2nd line:
(LW) Rick Nash (C) Sidney Crosby (RW) Jason Spezza
3rd line:
(LW) Simon Gagne (C) Joe Thornton (RW) Ryan Getzlaf
4th line:
(LW) Brenden Morrow (C) Mike Richards (RW) Shane Doan
That is the forwards and this is the defensemen parings:
1st:
(D) Dion Phaneuf (D) Chris Pronger
2nd:
(D) Jay Bouwmeester (D) Shea Weber
3rd:
(D) Dan Boyle (D) Mike Green
Now the goaltenders:
(G) Roberto Luongo and (G) Martin Brodeur
Thats what I think it will be like.
HABS RULE!!
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Beans15
Moderator
Canada
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Posted - 11/12/2009 : 15:38:33
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Originally posted by Sensfan101
Did you say Perry was one of the locks? Are you serious I would be shocked if he made the team
Last three forwards Marleau Stamkos and St. Louis
You miss 100 percent of the shots you don't take Wayne Gretzky
You mean Perry is not a lock on your list?? Please tell me which right wingers are ahead of him???
Marleau and St. Louis I agree. Stamkos??? Again, how many centre's does team Canada needs??
Getzlaf and Perry are on the team and will play together. They are, with the exception of Heatley and Thornton, the most productive Canadian duo who play together on a nightly basis. Considering that the Olympic team will get maybe 2 practices before the tourney starts, line mates make that chemistry a lot faster and easier to acheive.
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Posted - 11/12/2009 : 18:38:16
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Carter and Richards are locks- lets be real here. 46 goals from Carter last season and tons of grit and skill from Richards. Lecavalier has played himself off of the team- and Staal is pretty close to doing the same. Perry is also a lock, strong point producer who can also play a checking role if need be.
Penner on team Canada? Yes he's had a nice start to the season, but he's nowhere near skilled enough to justify a roster spot. I'm sure alot of centres would move to the wing in order to be on team Canada. I dont think Stamkos is ready yet, but I expect him to be one of Canada's better players in the next Olympics, if NHLers are playing that is. |
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Posted - 11/12/2009 : 18:49:23
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| Brentrock please please stop making nonsense posts |
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Beans15
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Canada
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Posted - 11/12/2009 : 19:34:14
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Ok, here is the part that I am confused about.
Carter makes the team because he had 46 goals LAST year.
But Lecavalier plays himself off the team THIS year??
Why can't Penner play himself on to the team this year???
For anyone to say he doesn't have the 'skill' to make the team has literally watched ZERO Oilers games this year. He has been as dominating as any player in the league to this point, with the exception of maybe Kopitar and Ovechkin. |
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Posted - 11/12/2009 : 19:51:03
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. . . but fast starts do not a player make.
First - I would never choose Penner for this team.
Second - I can't ever see Yzerman choosing Penner.
At some point, no matter the position that Penner specifically plays, or no matter how well he is doing in the first 15 odd games this year, Yzerman will look at pure skill, pure experience. Eric Staal, Lecavalier . . . no, they have not looked great at times - but it's a short tournament, and you put yourself in a poaition to win by putting together the best players you can. The best.
I also don't think Perry is a total lock, only because of how close a bunch of other players are . . . it may all be decided in a few weeks only, in fact. But combatibility is huge, and Getzlaf will be there, and Perry has great chemistry with him - it's a factor. Same as Heatley and Thornton now.
The only one I see sneaking on this team as the "surprise" is Smyth. He has been through the wars of before with team Canada, and he is back to playing to notch hockey. He'd fit on a third/fourth line, heck - he'd do anything to be on this team. I was never a big Smyth fan before, but he is impressing me, and if he gets on this team as the last forward, he deserves it.
Man this is tough! More thoughts tomorrow perhaps . . .
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Posted - 11/12/2009 : 20:00:45
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I have no doubt that RICHARDS will centre DOAN and MORROW on one line. Others who will make it are:
Iginla, CROSBY, Getzlaf, NASH, Heatley, Carter.
I am not convinced that THORNTON is in yet given the strength we have at Centre and I do not see him playing the wing. Other players who I feel are deserving are Ryan SMYTH, Marleau, TOEWS ( multi purpose player and responsible on defence). STAMKOS and St. Louis are also deserving. Defensive minded players are key if we are to beat the likes of MALKIN et al. They are highly skilled. |
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Alex116
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Posted - 11/13/2009 : 01:31:19
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Brentrock please please stop making nonsense posts
LOL! 
At least he said "MAYBE"? I mean, anythings possible, right? No, actually, those lines he proposed really aren't. "Maybe" just doesn't work here!
Brentrock, i think these would be some concerns the guest has:
Lecavalier over Crosby as your #1 center?
Gagne making the team considering the surgery he just had?
Thornton not lining up with Heatley?
Spezza as your second line RW?
You've got two guys (Lecavalier / Spezza) who're "on the bubble" so to speak on your top two lines? Seems like a stretch.
I will give you this much.....your 4th line would be my 4th line too. Smyth would prob be my extra fwd and could fill in not only on this 4th line, but really on any line!
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Posted - 11/13/2009 : 05:47:46
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-I'm the guy who posted 3rd-
People, Lecavalier may not be that obviously off the team, but remember that he was NOT very good last year and NOT that impressive this year. He lead the league once in points but in some of the years prior he had mediocre years too. He's not consistent and while I didn't have Doan on my team, I think he's the type of guy who could and should replace Lecavlier due to passion, equal points, and ability to play on a low line. Lecav can't play fouth line, where he'd belong if he made the team. Doan can. Morrow can. M. Richards can. Ryan Smyth surely can. These are more valuable fillers. |
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Posted - 11/13/2009 : 07:45:03
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Originally posted by brentrock2
It will maybe be like this:
1st line:
(LW) Dany Heatley (C) Vincent Lecavalier (RW) Jarome Iginla
2nd line:
(LW) Rick Nash (C) Sidney Crosby (RW) Jason Spezza
3rd line:
(LW) Simon Gagne (C) Joe Thornton (RW) Ryan Getzlaf
4th line:
(LW) Brenden Morrow (C) Mike Richards (RW) Shane Doan
That is the forwards and this is the defensemen parings:
1st:
(D) Dion Phaneuf (D) Chris Pronger
2nd:
(D) Jay Bouwmeester (D) Shea Weber
3rd:
(D) Dan Boyle (D) Mike Green
Now the goaltenders:
(G) Roberto Luongo and (G) Martin Brodeur
Thats what I think it will be like.
HABS RULE!!
brentrock2
I'm sure this is plagiarized from somewhere. To leave of Nieds and placing Lecav above Cros, Getz or Thornton should be easy enough to search on the web. Looks like it was from a post from last year. Do you want to fess up now or later? |
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Mikey Boy
Rookie
Canada
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Posted - 11/13/2009 : 08:18:57
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sorry guys... i'm not buying all this Dustin Penner stuff. Maybe next time. I just see him like a kris kontos...35 pts before X-mas and finishing with 55 pts. Just having a good start that's all.
And the non-sense about Perry not on the team...come on now...Getzlaf + Perry r dominating! and beans is right, you need chemistry going into this tournament. Getzlaf + Perry, Richards + Carter, Lacavilier + St. Louis, Marleau + Thornton + Heatley.
now thats chemistry!
and whoever puts Luongo ahead of Marty is NUTS! Brodeur is #1 till he says hes not!
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Posted - 11/13/2009 : 09:23:15
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Ok, Let me think out loud for a minute:
Nash - Crosby - Iginla
Even if they end up not playing together, these guys are a lock to make the team. Crosby is our #1 center, Nash and Iggy will be there for sure. Depending on chemistry, either might go down to the second line, but I see all three together as they have all played together before.
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Now, we have a bunch of potential centers to start off our second and third lines - Thornton, Getzlaf, Carter, M.Richards, Marleau, Lecavalier, E.Staal, J.Staal, Toews, Roy (from the list of invitees released in July), and potential add-ons Stamkos and B.Richards, who are both making a strong bid for the team with their play early in the season.
Whew!
Ok, so Yzerman has openly said that he wants the best players, but not just that - players that can bring something different to the table as well (he said this to explain the absence of Savard, and the inclusion in training camp of guys like Cleary and Lucic). What does this mean? Well, he wants a bigger, tougher team, for starters, as it's being played on the NHL sized ice rink. Guys who might be suited, as skilled as they are, for a checking role, for a grinding role, if necessary.
We also can't forget to pick the most skilled of the bunch either. Well, in this case it's easy for me to pick the next two centers, as they are both big boys with a crapload of skill: Thornton and Getzlaf. Seeing as Thornton is likely the second line center, and Getzlaf the third line center, let's build those lines, shall we?
Heatley - Thornton - ?
? - Getzlaf - Perry
I think both connections here are obvious, and fairly easy to make. Heatley has played very well so far with Thornton and has an excellent start to the season. Perry has also started off the season in fine form with 12 goals in 16 games. So, the question marks will be filled by the next best available wingers or centers who can convert to wing, so who do we have to choose from?
Carter, Marleau, Morrow, M.Richards, Smyth, Stamkos, Gagne, Doan, Cleary, Lucic
Well, let's put the 46 goal scorer Carter there, he has to go on the second or third line - I'd put him with Heater and Thornton. But wait . . . there is a very hot Marleau, who could play the wing and who has played with Thornton and Heatley on the power play . . . the rare threesome from the same team! Seems natural, so 2nd and 3rd lines are:
Heatley - Thornton - Marleau
Carter - Getzlaf - Perry
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Now we have to fill out a fourth line, make sure we have some penalty kill specialists, and guys who can be a shut-down line if need be - responsible defensively with a potential for scoring.
I think Mike Richards needs to be the center here, as he is just such a complete player, can play in all situations. Where it gets tough is, who plays with him? And who is my 13th forward?
My candidates: St.Louis, Morrow, Smyth, Stamkos, E.Staal, Doan, maybe Penner
I like Morrow on left wing - again, he is versatile, and despite being under 6' is a gritty player. But it is hard to deny the way Penner is playing right now, and surely he is on the radar - after all, he is a hulking presence on the wing. Unfortunate that he's yet another left-handed LW, though, and another good candidate would be Smyth.
I give the nod here to Smyth, formerly "captain Canada", if he continues his current play, he's in. All that experience, grit, and he is not afraid of the corners.
On the right waing, is there anyone better than St.Louis? I really like him as a penalty killer, and he has lots of skill, while being responsible defensively.
Smyth - M.Richards - St.Louis
The 13th man . . . for me, it's either Eric Staal, or maybe Stamkos. I know Staal has had a horrible beginning to the year . . . but I do not forget what a great playoffs he had, and how dominant he was. Edge to Staal.
13th man: E. Staal
Any injuries happen, Morrow and Stamkos are there.
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Beans15
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Posted - 11/13/2009 : 09:27:50
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Going into a 2 week long tourney, it's absolutely not what you have done, it's what you have done lately. Period.
And if you read what I posted, I said if I was going into the tourney TODAY I would take Penner. Absolutely, he's been on fire not for a few games, but nearly 2 months.
I think it's completely hipocritical to say that a player can play his way off the team in 20 games but a guy can't play his way on the team in the same time period.
I bet dollars to donuts that Penner's name has come up. Especially with Lowe as Yzerman's senior advisor. They are definately looking at him. Will he make the team?? Doubtful, I agree. If the Olympics started today, I think he would have as good a shot as any. If he has 40+ points and 20ish goals at Christmas, he will even have a better chance.
And I have to say again, anyone who says Penner lacks skill has not watched him play. He has lacked effort in the past, but he has always had a high level of skill. He has the softest hands of anyone playing in Edmonton in 20 years and has used his size very well to this point.He just never had the desire to play. He has that desire now. It's never been a lack of skill.
Penner would fit great on a 3rd line with Getzlef and Perry and would also be a great addition to a 2nd line PP in front of the net.
He fits, if people take their blinders off. Not saying it's a sure thing, but it's not far fetched. And I think he (playing as he has in the past 20 games) brings as much if not more to the table than the likes of Carter, M.Richards, and E.Staal) |
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Posted - 11/13/2009 : 09:41:26
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| You've really nailed it, Beans. If they're trending towards big guys that bring something to the table, Penner's name has definitely come up. He doesn't lay guys out on the ice or fight every game. He plays Detroit-style hockey, where big guys with skill use their physicality to gain and retain puck control. Watch a few of Penner's drives from the right faceoff circle and his work in front of the net are great examples of that. |
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phlyguy90
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Posted - 11/13/2009 : 11:20:15
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| you have to be crazy! penner wound up with an amazing 47 points last year! dont try to overanalyze this. yeah hes off to a good start so far but dont jump the gun and say he brings as much to the table as guys like carter, richards and staal, cuz its just not true. those guys are proven players. |
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brentrock2
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 11/13/2009 : 11:43:49
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Originally posted by Guest9690
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Originally posted by brentrock2
It will maybe be like this:
1st line:
(LW) Dany Heatley (C) Vincent Lecavalier (RW) Jarome Iginla
2nd line:
(LW) Rick Nash (C) Sidney Crosby (RW) Jason Spezza
3rd line:
(LW) Simon Gagne (C) Joe Thornton (RW) Ryan Getzlaf
4th line:
(LW) Brenden Morrow (C) Mike Richards (RW) Shane Doan
That is the forwards and this is the defensemen parings:
1st:
(D) Dion Phaneuf (D) Chris Pronger
2nd:
(D) Jay Bouwmeester (D) Shea Weber
3rd:
(D) Dan Boyle (D) Mike Green
Now the goaltenders:
(G) Roberto Luongo and (G) Martin Brodeur
Thats what I think it will be like.
HABS RULE!!
brentrock2
I'm sure this is plagiarized from somewhere. To leave of Nieds and placing Lecav above Cros, Getz or Thornton should be easy enough to search on the web. Looks like it was from a post from last year. Do you want to fess up now or later?
Seriously me and admin talked about this. I repeat I DID NOT PLAGIARIZED THIS FROM ANYWHERE. These are picks that I think. I betcha there are lots of other people who would pick this too.
HABS RULE!!
brentrock2
And by the ways, why is a couple of guests and ALex116 always and I mean always talking about my god damn posts!! |
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tbar
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 11/13/2009 : 11:57:23
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Originally posted by phlyguy90
you have to be crazy! penner wound up with an amazing 47 points last year! dont try to overanalyze this. yeah hes off to a good start so far but dont jump the gun and say he brings as much to the table as guys like carter, richards and staal, cuz its just not true. those guys are proven players.
Philly Guy I think you are missing the point. Steve Yzerman has said he is going with player's that are playing at a high level THIS YEAR. He does not want guys that were good last year and are strugling this year in hopes that they will break out of it come the Olympics. So as of TODAY (and Beans has made this clear) I would agree with Beans that Penner has made his name a contender for a roster spot. I dont think anybody can disagree with that. Maybe Penner wont get another point all year who knows but at this point you at the very least have to give Penner a strong consideration. |
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Beans15
Moderator
Canada
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Posted - 11/13/2009 : 12:51:10
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Carter is a proven player?? He has ONE season better than Penner!! His 1st and 2nd seasons are very comparable to Penner's.
How is Carter a proven player but Penner isn't??
Eric Staal, absolutely a proven player. But he is also hurt and not nearly as productive as Penner is today. Richards, I'm on the bubble with him. Not because he is a bad player at all. In fact, he is one of the best. However, how many around 6'ish 2 way centres does team Canada need??? That's why I put Richards off the list. I would take Marleau, Brad Richards, Crosby, Thornton, Getzlaf all before M.Richards and that's already one centre too many.
I would even pick Lecavalier ahead of Richards. Experience, Cup win, Olympian. And is as productive as Richards is today. Plus, Lecavalier and St. Louis would look nice.
You almost have to take both Richards and Carter or neither of them. I would personally not take either of them and have some established chemistry with other players. |
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6-5neveragain
Top Prospect
1 Posts |
Posted - 11/13/2009 : 12:51:59
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anyone taking ryan smyth on the team is effing insane. my team canada =
carter-crosby-iginla
heatley-thornton-nash
morrow-m.richards-doan
st.louis-getzlaf-perry
13th fwd. brad richards
niedermeyer-pronger
weber-bouwmeester
regher-fitzpatrick
7th def. dan boyle
brodeur
luongo
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HawkinOilCountry
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
318 Posts |
Posted - 11/13/2009 : 12:54:34
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Penner has a pretty dominating presence when he takes to the ice. You ALWAYS know he's out there. The way he's playing right now should have Team Canada very interested.
I'd take him as a forward over Morrow or Smyth from my previous post.
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Mikey Boy
Rookie
Canada
103 Posts |
Posted - 11/13/2009 : 14:46:40
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Fitzpatrick? HELLO! in there...you must be nuts. You would rather see fitzpatrick taken over guys like Phaneuf, Keith, Green, Doughty, Jovanovski, Robidas, Burns, Seabrook? Are you American or what?
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Alex116
PickupHockey Legend
6113 Posts |
Posted - 11/13/2009 : 14:50:31
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6-5neveragain.... Fitzpatrick? Huh? Is this a joke to do with the guy who started the campaign to get Rory Fitzpatrick on the All Star team a few years back? Or did i miss something?
Brentrock, my apologies, however, i didn't exactly slam you in that last post. I just pointed out where i thought your post drew attention to the guest who did make a comment about your posts. I certainly didn't think you plagiarized that, cuz i don't see how anyone else would think that's going to be the lineup! I could have called you an idiot for the roster you posted, but i didn't. I simply stated why i supposed the guest made the comment he / she did.
Beans, Penner is definitely in the conversation. I think, even if he continues his strong play, he'll come up just short. I think it's gonna be real tough for ANY player to play themselves onto the team after not being invited to the camp in Aug. Not saying it can't/won't happen, but i think that would have to be someone who's shown over a longer period of time, just what kind of player he can be. Totally different style and role he would play, but a guy like Savard, if for example he had not gotten injured and had put up 25 or so points thus far.
The only guy i can see sliding onto the roster who didn't get the camp invite would be Stamkos. To me, this would only occur if they see chemistry between he and St. Louis (and St. Louis has to make it in this case too). Personally, i don't think Stamkos makes it.
The comment you made "I think it's completely hipocritical to say that a player can play his way off the team in 20 games but a guy can't play his way on the team in the same time period." is spot on. However, i think for someone to play their way on, would have to be having a Kopitar-like year AND would need others, already expected to make the squad, to be having some serious off years. Regardless, i think he's gonna just miss, but at this point, i'd take him over Staal, maybe Carter, but def not Richards.
It's so tough to predict because as much as its' rapidly approaching, there's still time for a guy to slump and lose his spot. Perry's not a lock at this point, but if he goes into a month long slump (or longer), he could easily be forgotten! Guys like him, need to keep up the strong play through the next month and a half!
If i were picking, and it had to be done today, it'd look like this:
Nash - Crosby - Iggy
Heatly - Thornton - Marleau
St. Louis - Getzlaf - Perry
Morrow - Richards - Doan
Extra: Smyth
I'm torn between J. Carter and M. St. Louis on the left wing on Getzlaf's line. I went with Marty for now and didn't use Carter as my extra as i think Smyth would be able to fill more roles if needed?
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HawkinOilCountry
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
318 Posts |
Posted - 11/13/2009 : 14:51:37
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Well if we're gonna talk defense lines:
Keith - Seabrook
Boyle - Green
Phaneuf - Reghr
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Final 3 spots on team Canada (forwards) 
