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Mikhailova
PickupHockey All-Star
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 Posted - 04/17/2007 : 17:47:55
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| Alright, this is my last-ditch effort (possibly, lol): Chilliwack?? They have a (?)WHA team....NHL a possibility? |
Edited by - Mikhailova on 04/17/2007 17:48:13 |
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Guest4009
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Posted - 04/19/2007 : 15:09:19
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Chilliwack? Uh, no.
Moose Jaw or Iqaluit have a better chance than Chilliwack. |
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HasekFan39
Rookie
Canada
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Posted - 04/20/2007 : 19:51:23
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| They should make a team in at least every province. We can have more hockey fans and we can see more hockey games. We won't have to go waaaaaaaayyyyyy far to see hockey games. |
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Saku Steen
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 04/21/2007 : 03:18:52
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That would mean adding 7 more teams...
I've figured it out, the guys gotta play like girls! |
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Mikhailova
PickupHockey All-Star
USA
2918 Posts |
Posted - 04/21/2007 : 08:28:34
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| You mean you think they should have teams in the Northwest Territories and the Yukon? One, practically no one lives up there, and two, it's covered with snow and way below zero (Fahrenheit) most of the year. The other provinces I could see, but those two aren't practical. |
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Leafs Rock Planet
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 04/21/2007 : 08:32:43
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Northwest Territories and Yukon are not provices. They are Territorries
Forecheck+Backcheck= Paycheck!!! |
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leafsfan_101
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 04/21/2007 : 08:32:55
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You have to think also that wherever you put a team in Canada it will hav a great fanbase. Then consider the corporate people. will they support a team. Will the city/province. Pittsburgh was supported by alot of people, so it stayed. Do you really think that putting a team where there is permafrost (meaning you can't dig underground) will survive??
When life gives you lemons throw them at the Ottawa Senators and their fans and hope it gets them in the eyes ;) |
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Mikhailova
PickupHockey All-Star
USA
2918 Posts |
Posted - 04/21/2007 : 08:44:27
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Originally posted by Leafs Rock Planet
Northwest Territories and Yukon are not provices. They are Territorries
Oh...my bad. Well we're even, I know Canadians who think there are 51 states 
In that case, putting teams in the other 7 provinces would be a good idea for the fanbase, assuming they could get rid of 7 other teams (probably in places like Florida and Phoenix). Otherwise there'd be 37 teams, which is a bit high and also an odd number, in which case the conferences would have different numbers of teams. |
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GOWINGS19
Rookie
USA
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Posted - 04/26/2007 : 14:07:21
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haha a couple of guys i played hockey with from canada thought we had 51 states
You find that you have peace of mind and can enjoy yourself, get more sleep, and rest when you know that it was a one hundred percent effort that you gave - win or lose. |
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Mikhailova
PickupHockey All-Star
USA
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Posted - 04/26/2007 : 16:07:43
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Lol today I just found out today that there's a town in Alberta called Leaf Sverige...it's where Swedish Fish are manufactured in North America. Not that I think it would ever in a million years get a team, but if it did, it would have a pretty sweet mascot!  ('Sweet' in the literal and figurative sense!) |
Edited by - Mikhailova on 04/26/2007 16:08:01 |
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blade
Rookie
Canada
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Posted - 04/26/2007 : 16:11:08
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| Canada is the 51st state |
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willus3
Moderator
Canada
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Posted - 04/26/2007 : 16:11:09
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quote:
Originally posted by Mikhailova
You mean you think they should have teams in the Northwest Territories and the Yukon? One, practically no one lives up there, and two, it's covered with snow and way below zero (Fahrenheit) most of the year. The other provinces I could see, but those two aren't practical.
I found the temperature reference here humourous. Hockey is played on ice you know.
"Go chase headlights!" |
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willus3
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Canada
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Posted - 04/26/2007 : 16:11:40
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Originally posted by blade
Canada is the 51st state
Ouch!
"Go chase headlights!" |
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Mikhailova
PickupHockey All-Star
USA
2918 Posts |
Posted - 04/26/2007 : 16:20:13
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LOL!
Did you know that there were actually 14 English colonies in North America, and Nova Scotia was the 14th? Yep, it used to belong to England before they had to give it up to France in the Treaty of Rastadt. (You can tell I've been studying for European history )
And yes Willus, hockey is meant to be played in cold areas, but with the temperatures I just meant that's a little cold to be going to games. I dunno how many people would want to drive up to an area that cold to see a game, but if they were true hockey fans they would!! |
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leigh
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Canada
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Posted - 04/26/2007 : 16:31:25
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Originally posted by Mikhailova
So basically, with a few, exceptions, I guess this sums all it up:
A population nearly 9 times larger + stronger dollar = we get more teams
280 million vs. 32 million, $1 USD vs. $1.35-ish CAD. Sorry Canadians.
Undoubtedly there are more hockey fans in Canada (and I don't just mean per capita). The root of the problem is the crazy salaries. If top salaries were in the neighborhood of a 2 or 3 million then some of the Canadian cities mentioned could probably support teams (Winnipeg, Hamilton, Quebec) but at 7+ million salaries you have to go to a larger market, but that larger market can not support it with dedicated fans. Plain and simple the NHL tried to grow too fast.
No Fans = no TV deals. No TV deals = no corporate sponsorship. No corporate sponsorship = no team at today's salaries. |
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PuckNuts
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 04/26/2007 : 16:33:48
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Edmonton and Calgary have been known to have temperatures around –40 Celsius, oh and for the US that would be –40 Fahrenheit, and they seem to fill the arenas…
Lead, follow, or get out of the way... |
Edited by - PuckNuts on 04/26/2007 16:38:47 |
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Mikhailova
PickupHockey All-Star
USA
2918 Posts |
Posted - 04/26/2007 : 16:38:25
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Well OK, but aren't the Northwest Territories all those islands up there? Surely it gets even colder there. But nonetheless, I guess the temperature doesn't matter, just so long as the fans are happy with a team.
Oh yeah, I didn't even think of this. The windchill in Minnesota is often -60 F (-51 C) or below, and the Wild fans are always there too...so I guess the NW Territory folks would definitely go! |
Edited by - Mikhailova on 04/26/2007 16:42:21 |
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Saku Steen
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 04/26/2007 : 16:48:43
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Originally posted by Mikhailova
Well OK, but aren't the Northwest Territories all those islands up there? Surely it gets even colder there. But nonetheless, I guess the temperature doesn't matter, just so long as the fans are happy with a team.
Oh yeah, I didn't even think of this. The windchill in Minnesota is often -60 F (-51 C) or below, and the Wild fans are always there too...so I guess the NW Territory folks would definitely go!
No thats Nunavat..... I think.....
I've figured it out, the guys gotta play like girls! |
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Mikhailova
PickupHockey All-Star
USA
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leigh
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Canada
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Posted - 04/26/2007 : 16:53:32
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Originally posted by Mikhailova
Well OK, but aren't the Northwest Territories all those islands up there? Surely it gets even colder there. But nonetheless, I guess the temperature doesn't matter, just so long as the fans are happy with a team.
Oh yeah, I didn't even think of this. The windchill in Minnesota is often -60 F (-51 C) or below, and the Wild fans are always there too...so I guess the NW Territory folks would definitely go!
Hey Mik, I grew up in the Yukon. I remember walking or snowmobiling to the rink at -50 degrees celcius, pitch black in the middle of the afternoon. No kidding. The only day they shut the school down because it was too cold was when it was -75. I remember defying my mom and running outside without a coat on just so I could say I did. haha. 25 years later I get to tell the story on the internet. Who new? (that there would be an internet that is) |
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Mikhailova
PickupHockey All-Star
USA
2918 Posts |
Posted - 04/26/2007 : 17:00:19
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Haha that's funny Leigh! I guess the people in Nunavut or NW Territories or wherever would have no problem then!
-75 C = -84 F????  Wow in Alaska they close if it's -30 F! -84, pitch black at noon...that's almost as bad as Siberia. I bet all the Russians come to the NHL to play because it's warmer! LOL  |
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leigh
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Canada
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Posted - 04/26/2007 : 17:34:51
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haha no kidding. My family is from the Ukraine so maybe that is why Canada seemed so appealing. :-)
Well that was back in the 70's so times were wee bit tougher. I think after that cold snap they changed it to -45 to close the schools. They must not have wanted crazy kids running around with no coats on! heehee. |
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Mikhailova
PickupHockey All-Star
USA
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Posted - 04/26/2007 : 17:48:26
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I wonder if the name 'Flames' makes the fans forget about how cold it is outside during the games, lol!
So...anyway, if southern teams were to be yanked and transferred to Canada or the northern US, then the first one I'd pull is Phoenix. Contrary to what we've just been talking about, Phoenix has an issue of being too hot. 126 F is the record high. The only reason hockey would be on the mind down there is to cool off from the heat. Next would be Florida. Tampa Bay has a history, but Florida doesn't need two teams, and TB has the better fans. Then St. Louis would go. Attendence at Blues games is pitiful. Then I'd move into California. Three teams in a state with a subtropical climate where the winter low is 60?? That's silly. Yeah it has to do with the fact that there's a big population and lots of $$$ but if I were to yank a CA team it'd be Anaheim. The team is good, but SJ and LA have better fans. SJ fans are loud and supportive and LA fans actually do like hockey (being born in LA, I can speak for myself ). I'd move those 4 teams either to Canada or northern US cities where hockey is more popular. |
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GOWINGS19
Rookie
USA
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Posted - 04/30/2007 : 15:24:35
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if i lived in pheonix i'd just just go their games to have air conditioning...about it haha
You find that you have peace of mind and can enjoy yourself, get more sleep, and rest when you know that it was a one hundred percent effort that you gave - win or lose. -Gordie Howe |
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Mikhailova
PickupHockey All-Star
USA
2918 Posts |
Posted - 05/02/2007 : 14:45:20
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| What about Kamloops? Would they have any chance? |
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tctitans
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 05/02/2007 : 14:53:56
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Originally posted by Mikhailova
What about Kamloops? Would they have any chance?
Again, just too small a market. something like 600,000 people in that area, but the rest of the requirments (critical) just dont exist. |
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Mikhailova
PickupHockey All-Star
USA
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Posted - 06/15/2007 : 19:10:07
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I know this topic is old, but with all the talk of the Preds moving to Hamilton I have another question...
I doubt it, but would Frederick or St. John have a chance at a team? The New Brunswick population would make up part of the fanbase, but there's also Maine right below it. Hockey is popular in Maine, and I'm sure some people would be willing to drive up to see games. (Not to be confused with St. John's in Newfoundland...I doubt they could get a team since they're so isolated from mainland Canada and the population's not that large).
Also...what about London? Ontario has the largest population of the provinces and London is a fairly large city, so there's a shot. |
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PainTrain
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 06/15/2007 : 20:13:15
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Originally posted by Mikhailova
I know this topic is old, but with all the talk of the Preds moving to Hamilton I have another question...
I doubt it, but would Frederick or St. John have a chance at a team? The New Brunswick population would make up part of the fanbase, but there's also Maine right below it. Hockey is popular in Maine, and I'm sure some people would be willing to drive up to see games. (Not to be confused with St. John's in Newfoundland...I doubt they could get a team since they're so isolated from mainland Canada and the population's not that large).
Also...what about London? Ontario has the largest population of the provinces and London is a fairly large city, so there's a shot.
Fredrickton Mik
And I think it would just be hard for the maritimes team to support the team. What about them going to Quebec I think that could work. |
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Mikhailova
PickupHockey All-Star
USA
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Posted - 06/16/2007 : 08:05:32
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Originally posted by PainTrain
Fredrickton Mik
Oh yeah...whoops. My bad |
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leafsfan_101
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 06/16/2007 : 08:59:45
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I think that London would be a good population for a team. They have a large Knights fanbase and I think they could handle an NHL team.
Comments??
Second place is only first place of the losers. |
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Mikhailova
PickupHockey All-Star
USA
2918 Posts |
Posted - 06/16/2007 : 17:02:49
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| I think London would have a shot. Just as long as they don't name their team the London Brits or something like that |
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Hey Canadians--I have a question, eh 
