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Canucks Man
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 Posted - 03/03/2007 : 14:49:45
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Originally posted by Mikhailova
Ok, any chance of Victoria financially being able to have a team? I guess they're a little close to Vancouver though...
Im from Victoria and i think we could do it if we had an arena, ppl from the whole island would come and watch, by the way i want Seattle to have a team they are a hockey market and with some of the place in the usa that have hockey (St. louis arena was about half full last week when they played the canucks) they definatly deserve one
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wyntyre
Rookie
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Posted - 03/03/2007 : 14:54:26
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Just going back to Saskatoon/Regina....which as far as population goes...it would need to be a Province endevour...the largest arena is the Credit Union Center (formerly Sask Place) and the Capacity there is 11300. Although I imagine that could be expanded as the one end of the arena has no seats...just like in Lethbridge (I used to live in Lethbridge so what i mean is there is like a stage and a cutain rather than seats). I imagine there would be fan support...I go to the Labour Day classic every year (being a winnipeger) and there no shortage of sports love in Saskatchewan. Winnipeg does stand a better chance at getting a team back than Saskatchewan does in getting one at all.
Copps coliseum in Hamilton would not be a bad choice although i imagine it would need to be upgraded as it doesn't look anydifferent than it did in the 80's to the best of my knowledge...but at 17500 capacity and all seats being good...it's possible. Mississauga is basically a suburb of Toronto...and the NHL already has 3 teams within an hour of each other in New York...look at all those Devil fans comin' out for their team.
I would love to see a team back in Winnipeg...so I could see the flames kick their ass four times a year...but sadly the MTS Center is slightly too small at just over 15000 capacity...and like Saskatchewan and Halifax, the corporate support would not be able to hold the team. And for those of you who say Jets fans were the best...they had their moments...but 8000 fans in a 13000 arena doesn't cut it...too many poor people here
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Mikhailova
PickupHockey All-Star
USA
2918 Posts |
Posted - 03/03/2007 : 16:22:26
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Originally posted by Canucks Man
by the way i want Seattle to have a team they are a hockey market and with some of the place in the usa that have hockey (St. louis arena was about half full last week when they played the canucks) they definatly deserve one
Good idea Canucks Man. They should get rid of St. Louis and move the team to Seattle. The Seattle Blues...interesting name, lol
I also think Wisconsin should have a team, hockey's real big up there. |
Edited by - Mikhailova on 03/04/2007 08:36:25 |
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Mikhailova
PickupHockey All-Star
USA
2918 Posts |
Posted - 03/03/2007 : 16:56:21
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Originally posted by Patchy
it's possible, but i think a better idea would be for a whole province like manitoba, saskatchewan, or even in the maritimes to have their own team. If the whole province paid for the arena etc..it could work. Kinda like the Avalanche in Colorado.
That's actually a good idea Patchy. They should do that. Although they already have two teams in Alberta they could still have a third for the whole province...they have three in New York, two with New York in their name.
I would name 'em the Alberta Clippers, Saskatchewan Szechwan (haha not really), and Manitoba Cobras.
Or how 'bout the New Brunswick Fundys (like the Bay of Fundy) , Newfoundland Hounds (get it?), Yukon Huskies, or the Nova Scotia Supernova?
Guess you couldn't have the Prince Edward Islanders...that's already taken 
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guinman
Top Prospect
Canada
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Posted - 03/03/2007 : 20:20:13
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Originally posted by Guest4943
Saskatoon i think would be a great idea. The roughrider fans are the best in the league(there cfl team) and plus there is nothing to do there.
I think hamilton would get a team before saskatoon, since saskatchewan is the biggest joke ever......I'm not gonna slam manitoba that badly, since they produced 2 of canada's most legendary physicists (whom I had the luxury of learning from hahahahah)...But I don't think those 2 provinces have the business community required to have an NHL team...As bettman said (he's a joke, but what he said makes sense), it's not just selling tickets that works, you need to have enough local business's to support a team.....
But what I REALLY wanted to add was the CFL is the BIGGEST JOKE buddy....I hate that f***ing "grey cup fever".......The CFL is like the ECHL(east coast hockey league) of Football, sure sometimes someone breaks through (Garcia), but do you have any idea how much worse CFL players are than NFLers...Casey Printers was the CFL mvp a few years back, then he tried out down south and is a 4th stringer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I wouldn't care about the CFL as much, but a lot of retarded Canadians don't understand how much WORSE those players are compared to the NFL guys...And then CFL highlights are the first on Sportscenter? What a f***ing joke........Then the lions won the grey cup, and all I'd see on the COVER of newspapers was lions this and lions that......WHAT A JOKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sure that's news....but a B-league football association should NEVER be front page news (nor take priorities over hockey on sportscenter).
I HATE CROSBY
People don't realize how much worse CFL players are than NFL players.
I'd say there a lot more broke than NFL players. I'd beg to differ about your opinion of the margin of difference in the quality of atheletes. I'd suggest that the CFL doesn't get the respect it deserves. Many decades ago kid, The CFL would play head to head against what was and prior to being the NFL. Guess what? No matter who hosted the CFL all-stars beat the Americans almost EVERY year until the NFL called the whole thing off. As for the CFL being full of sub-standard athletes, ask Ricky Williams. Or Billy 'white shoes' Johnson and Vince Feregamo. Of course you were still swimming in your dad's pants so you wouldn't remember the latter.
Once again your opinion has no basis in reality. Of course you are a part of the 'instant gratification' generation who loves the big hype and production. The sad truth is that the CFL game is far more entertaining to watch on a game by game basis. I guess you think that entertainment on a punt play (which along with K.O. returns are the most exciting plays in Foot.) consists of watching the kicking team look at the ball rolling on the ground - or the always entertaining 'fair catch'. s*** kid, I see more good punt returns in one CFL game than I would in 16 NFL games. They are two different games anyways. I like the NFL. Unlike you I don't see a need to bash the CFL even if I prefered the NFL.
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tctitans
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 03/04/2007 : 10:06:37
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There is no need to put down other members while entering in a simple "I agree" comment which is also unacceptable. Please review the forum posting guidleines. |
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wyntyre
Rookie
Canada
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Posted - 03/07/2007 : 20:54:41
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CFL is a different game completely...it's like comparing Austrailian rules football to the NFL...yeah the CFL get's the "rejects" but I would like to see an all-star game...on CFL field with CFL rules and see if the NFL guys are so good that they can adapt to this game in two weeks????
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Mikhailova
PickupHockey All-Star
USA
2918 Posts |
Posted - 03/08/2007 : 11:47:15
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| This is about hockey towns in Canada, not the CFL vs the NFL. So there's no need for the football posts. |
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OILINONTARIO
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 03/11/2007 : 19:56:48
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| The "Golden Horsshoe" i.e. T.O., Hamilton, Scarborough, Niagara, etc. has the volume and the resources to afford an extra team in Ontario. There would be no complaints from the center of the hockey universe,(nor the centre de l'universe du hockey,if you will) if a team was to be established in this area. |
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Patchy
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 03/11/2007 : 21:12:12
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I would name 'em the Alberta Clippers, Saskatchewan Szechwan (haha not really), and Manitoba Cobras.
Or how 'bout the New Brunswick Fundys (like the Bay of Fundy) , Newfoundland Hounds (get it?), Yukon Huskies, or the Nova Scotia Supernova?
Guess you couldn't have the Prince Edward Islanders...that's already taken
haha nice mik, those are actually pretty good, too bad the prince edward islanders wouldn't work eh? how about the BC Banshees? or the newfoundland prostate glands...anyways just throwin ideas out there. 
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Canucks Man
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1547 Posts |
Posted - 03/11/2007 : 21:32:53
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Patchy i prefer the BC Bandits
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Mikhailova
PickupHockey All-Star
USA
2918 Posts |
Posted - 03/12/2007 : 14:08:03
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| Oh yeah, how 'bout this one (can't believe I forgot this town) - what about Whistler? Surely they could support a team. They already get tons of visitors at the ski resort, I'm sure many of them would love to stay and watch a hockey game. Or is it too close to the Canucks? My Canadian geography is failing me here--Whistler is close to Vancouver, is it not? |
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Patchy
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 03/12/2007 : 15:33:22
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yea it's pretty close...i guess it would be do-able though. It's a good idea.
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admin
Forum Admin
Canada
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Posted - 03/12/2007 : 15:38:58
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Originally posted by Mikhailova
Oh yeah, how 'bout this one (can't believe I forgot this town) - what about Whistler? Surely they could support a team. They already get tons of visitors at the ski resort, I'm sure many of them would love to stay and watch a hockey game. Or is it too close to the Canucks? My Canadian geography is failing me here--Whistler is close to Vancouver, is it not?
Sorry Mik but Whistler couldn't support a professional team in any league. (No WHL either) |
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Mikhailova
PickupHockey All-Star
USA
2918 Posts |
Posted - 03/12/2007 : 16:25:36
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| Oh...that's too bad. Guess you'll all just have to stick with 6 teams then, eh? C'est la vie |
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PENSFAN8771
Rookie
USA
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Posted - 03/12/2007 : 21:36:08
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Hamilton won't get a team. They are too close to both Toronto and Buffalo for owners of those teams to not form coalitions of owners to block any move there. I think the number is 2/3 of owners must approve any move. That's a big reason Basillie dropped his bid to buy the Penguins; he was told he would not be permitted to move the team there.
I love Whistler with great passion. If you like to ski/snowboard and party then I truly believe nothing can equal Whistler. However, there is no way it could support a team, nor would the village permit it to happen. Whistler has EXTREMELY strict development codes, take an ecotour up there some time and they'll go on and on about it. On a side note, when the junior championships were in Vancouver, team USA stayed in Whistler and noted the antiquity and quaint nature of the small local rink. I find that kinda odd given the modern nature of seemingly everything else in town.
Seattle will not get a team. It is not a hockey town by any means. They basically asked the SuperSonics to leave town. I think it would take an act of God (i.e. Canadians successfully invading and occupying the state of Washington) for that city to get an NHL team, even though they have the population with money to support it.
I think Victoria is an interesting concept. I don't know how many people from the island take a night to go see the Canucks right now. It seems like it would be quite a hassle.
The one concern I would have about any Canadian city getting a new team is that most hockey fans already have an allegiance to a team and how many would give that up for a hometown team. I know that the last few weeks when I was bracing for bad news about the Penguins, the thought of a new team to cheer for in the league was not easy to swallow. In US cities, the fans have to be created not converted, and I'm not sure which is harder to do.
All this being said, I would rather see any NHL franchise move/expand to a Canadian city. Watching empty Florida glass seats sickens me. Seeing empty seats at the finals in Carolina made me want to hold back vomit. |
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Mikhailova
PickupHockey All-Star
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Posted - 03/31/2007 : 11:52:45
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So Hamilton can't get a team, nor Regina...OK where haven't I mentioned yet?
Banff? What about them? I kinda doubt it but I dunno... |
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semin-rules
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 03/31/2007 : 11:56:32
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Originally posted by Mikhailova
Banff? What about them? I kinda doubt it but I dunno...
No. But great place to ski
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Canucks Man
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Canada
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Posted - 03/31/2007 : 12:14:26
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Originally posted by PENSFAN8771
Seattle will not get a team. It is not a hockey town by any means. They basically asked the SuperSonics to leave town. I think it would take an act of God (i.e. Canadians successfully invading and occupying the state of Washington) for that city to get an NHL team, even though they have the population with money to support it.
I think Victoria is an interesting concept. I don't know how many people from the island take a night to go see the Canucks right now. It seems like it would be quite a hassle.
I dont agree with you about seatlle, they asked for a team and I dont think they would ask if they couldnt support one.
and you'd be surprised by the number of people from the island who go over to canucks games.
CANUCKS RULE!!!
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Mikhailova
PickupHockey All-Star
USA
2918 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2007 : 16:47:28
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| What about Moncton? They have a CHL team, any chance they could have an NHL team? Or Labrador--what about them? (I don't think there'd be any trouble in choosing their mascot ) |
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semin-rules
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 04/11/2007 : 17:10:13
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Originally posted by Mikhailova
What about Moncton? They have a CHL team, any chance they could have an NHL team? Or Labrador--what about them? (I don't think there'd be any trouble in choosing their mascot )
Labrador would probobly be a good town for a team. What about Halifax? I think they could sustain a team.
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Cinderelly
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Posted - 04/11/2007 : 18:14:47
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Winnipeg needs to have another NHL team for sure. I used to live there and it was a shame when the Jets were dismantled.
Saskatchewan.......... I used to crack jokes about it being the @$$hole of Canada. Now we're moving there. ROFLMAO 
That's karma
And I doubt it will ever happen but since I'm going there can't hurt to wish for a team
45 mins till game time
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admin
Forum Admin
Canada
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Posted - 04/11/2007 : 18:24:10
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Wow Mik! You are relentless!!!
Canada only has a population of 30 million, of which 20+ million live in Ontario and Quebec.They are the only two provinces who have a chance for another team. They are the only areas with a dense enough population base and potential industry financing. Although Winnipeg is talked about, it is only thrown out there because of the history and the emotion. But it really can't handle it for all the reasons mentioned previously.
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Mikhailova
PickupHockey All-Star
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Posted - 04/11/2007 : 18:27:05
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Originally posted by admin
Wow Mik! You are relentless!!!
Haha, I know. I just keep remembering towns so I have to ask...lol |
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PuckNuts
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 04/11/2007 : 19:35:56
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The population of Labrador is just over 27,000, so if 18,000 are at the game who's watching the kids...
There are: People that make things happen, people that watch things happen, and people that wonder what happened, who are you... |
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BigShow
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Posted - 04/11/2007 : 20:03:22
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Not very many other places in Canada could support an NHL team.
Winnipeg maybe, or somewhere in southern Ontario, Hamilton probably is the best bet.
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PuckNuts
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Posted - 04/11/2007 : 20:08:11
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I think London would be a better bet than Hamilton, the Knights fill the JLC with 9,000 plus for the last 4 seasons (sold out)...
There are: People that make things happen, people that watch things happen, and people that wonder what happened, who are you... |
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SlowShot
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Canada
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Posted - 04/11/2007 : 21:47:30
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I would like to see a team in London or Windsor because they both could probably sustain a team. Oh and what is the point of the clown?
Go Stars |
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1 Crosby fan
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Canada
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Posted - 04/11/2007 : 21:51:42
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Originally posted by bablaboushka
I'm 18
your 18 i always you were like 25-30 and i think London or Quebec should have a or anther team
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PuckNuts
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Posted - 04/11/2007 : 22:05:04
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Quebec had their chance, and they failed...
There are: People that make things happen, people that watch things happen, and people that wonder what happened, who are you... |
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1 Crosby fan
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Posted - 04/11/2007 : 22:06:34
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yea but they could get another
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manninm
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Posted - 04/12/2007 : 05:40:10
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Originally posted by semin-rules
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Originally posted by Mikhailova
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Originally posted by semin-rules
living in winnipeg, the neighbour of Saskatoon
Isn't Winnipeg in Manitoba? Or did you mean you live in the neighboring province to Saskachewan?
Yea it is but im talking about capital cities of the provinces
~~~~~GO STARS~~~~~
Kinda off topic - I thought Regina was the capital of Saskatchewan?
On topic - I don't know where the population is heading, or if there are a lot of corporate $ there, but Saskatoon's population is about the same to Buffalo, and we, somehow, have been able to sustain a team. Just a thought. |
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BigShow
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Posted - 04/12/2007 : 06:58:11
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Saskatoon is the corporate leader in Saskatchewan, and has one of the higher growth rates in the province. Saskatoon's 200,000 doesn't seem that far removed from Buffalo's 285,000. But that is 42% increase in city population.
I would suggest the bigger problem would be the population density of the surrounding areas. Saskatoon is surrounded by farmland, while i would assume Buffalo, in upstate New York, has many other smallish cities within an hour's drive. Regina is a couple hours away, too far to really offer any support. The closest neighboring city would be Calgary, at about eight hours drive.
Around Saskatoon the population density is under 10 per square mile, while around Buffalo it is over 30 per square mile. That equates to a whole lot of people and money in the upstate New York area, money and people that Saskatoon couldn't possibly hope to rely on similarly, because they just don't exist.
I can't even begin to guess how many people live within an eight hour drive of Buffalo, but i'd suggest more than the entire population of Canada (though millions of them would have their own teams, NJD, NYR, NYI, PF, BB, TBJ, DRW) There just isn't enough surrounding population in Canada (outside of Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver) to support a team in a city under 500,000. And really Winnipeg at close to 600,000 lost their team, and Calgary and Edmonton both came really close. One million is probably a more realistic required population. Which is where Calgary and Edmonton are sitting now, and the teams seem a lot safer.
That's why outside of Winnipeg, any new canadian team would have to be in southern Ontario, where the population density is similar to the american north east. |
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Mikhailova
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Posted - 04/12/2007 : 12:17:18
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Originally posted by manninm
Kinda off topic - I thought Regina was the capital of Saskatchewan?
You're right, it is. I just found that out a few days ago in fact. For the longest time though I though it was Saskatoon... |
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Posted - 04/12/2007 : 13:48:38
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| In reality...many Canadian hockey cities could support an NHL team. With this new CBA contract in place, it makes it even more affordable. Problem with Winnipeg and Quebec City failing was mainly due to the Canadian Dollar being very weak years ago, and when you are trying to pay these guys in US dollars, the conversion rate was killing teams and could not afford to sign high profile players. Edmonton, Vancouver and Calgary were suffering, just as the Senators were until Melnyk bought the team. Secondly, the Canadian teams players had to pay taxes when employed in Canada so it became also less attractive to play for a Canadian team. Montreal and Toronto were the only profitable Canadian teams at the time, so of course, they enjoyed more success during those hard times. As mentioned with the new CBA, all teams have the same amount of spending money regardless of the money coming in, but those teams also have a minimum they must meet. The minimum is an amnount 3-4 Canadian hockey cities like Winnipeg could easily afford, especially with a brand new rink that was built there. Other cities of interest would be Hamilton (Ontario), Quebec City and maybe an Eastern Canada city like Halifax or Moncton, but that would never happen. I saw Newfoundland mentioned, economy in newfoundland could never support a hockey team, but they would get the fan support. Hamilton would also be a hard sell, cause as mentioned in another post, too close to Toronto and Buffalo, but it could work. Toronto/Hamilton rivalry would heat things up. Quebec city could also support another team, but would be hard to re-sell the idea to that city since they failed already once in the past. There could also be another western team in Vancouver, but since I dont live in that area, other posters here have already mentioned their opinions. Canadians love their hockey, just a shame Bettman doesnt see recognize it because he's too busy trying to get more US teams in the mix. |
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Mikhailova
PickupHockey All-Star
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Posted - 04/12/2007 : 14:05:13
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So basically, with a few, exceptions, I guess this sums all it up:
A population nearly 9 times larger + stronger dollar = we get more teams
280 million vs. 32 million, $1 USD vs. $1.35-ish CAD. Sorry Canadians. |
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BigShow
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Posted - 04/12/2007 : 15:30:46
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Pretty much. Though another big factor is local TV viewership.
Atlanta got a team in the last expansion because they are one of the 5 largest viewership areas in North America. That is also why Houstan is one of the cities that was cut last.
There were thirteen cities and about thirty different ownership groups fighting for the four franchises Bettman made available. Atlanta, Nashville and Colombus covered a lot of TV viewers that didn't have local NHL teams before. |
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Lrocker
Top Prospect
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Posted - 04/12/2007 : 16:07:15
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Originally posted by Mikhailova
So basically, with a few, exceptions, I guess this sums all it up:
A population nearly 9 times larger + stronger dollar = we get more teams
280 million vs. 32 million, $1 USD vs. $1.35-ish CAD. Sorry Canadians.
True, although in the late 90's the U.S. dollar was closer to 1.60 and 1.70 CAD. Thanks to 'Honest Jean'.
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Lrocker
Top Prospect
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Posted - 04/12/2007 : 16:20:46
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Originally posted by BigShow
Pretty much. Though another big factor is local TV viewership.
Atlanta got a team in the last expansion because they are one of the 5 largest viewership areas in North America. That is also why Houstan is one of the cities that was cut last.
There were thirteen cities and about thirty different ownership groups fighting for the four franchises Bettman made available. Atlanta, Nashville and Colombus covered a lot of TV viewers that didn't have local NHL teams before.
Silly question here, but what about Flin Flon?
It's in Manitoba but it's close to the Saskatchewan border. If Roughrider fans are willing to drive from all over Sask to support the Riders, is it beyond the possibility for Sask-Man fans of a hockey team to drive to Flin Flon? The Bombers are in the SJHL, why not a team close to Sask to draw in fans from both provinces.
How many viewers from those two provinces would be interested in following that team?
On the other hand it's one thing to go to nine home football games over 5 to 6 months, while going to 41 home games might be too much to manage.
What kind of T.V. contract could that team get?
As to another team in Alberta, no way. Calgary and Edmonton are pushing one million in population. There is not enough other people in Alberta for that. There's four million in TO and that might be able to support another team, an Alberta team would have big problems.
Although, before the cap came into effect, some were discussing the possibility of the Oilers and Flames combining into one team. Glad that didn't happen. Imagine the Tiger-Cats and Argos joining into one franchise. Never happen, fans would hate it.
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Guest4009
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Posted - 04/15/2007 : 12:34:43
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Thanks God BigShow set the record straight about Saskatoon and Saskatchewan in general. Saskatoon will be Canada's next Calgary, in my opinion. From the time I left there about fifteen years ago, the population has spiked, and particularily in the last year or two.
Do I think they could sustain an NHL team? No. One person noted that every game would be a sellout, but that there is or would be a lack of or no corporate support. That is partially true. Although Saskatoon is not "in the middle of nowhere" as some would suggest, it is not surrounded by a large popualtion base either. It's more like Edmonton in that respect. But at about 220 000 people with another 100 000 within reasonable driving distance, it would pack the house every night.
The problem, a it was in the late 80's when there was talk of the Blues moving here, is that there is a lack of wealthy entrepreneurs that you find in most major cities. There are rich people here, but not many wealthy ones (as Chris Rock said, Shaq is rich - the guy who writes his checks is wealthy). It's why the Roughriders are community owned. There are no people willing or able to take a three million dollar loss as a tax write off, let alone a 30 million dollar loss if your NHL team tanks.
For the "I Hate Crosby" guy who slams my fair former city and province, we may not have as many people as wherever you live, but I'll tell you what else we lack - crime and poverty. I can send my kids to school secure in the fact that they won't be shot in a drive-by. In our drive-bys, the perps might throw eggs. Then they come back later to apologize and wash the window.
Saskatchewan only has a million people because people haven't discovered it yet. I have everything a person in Toronto or Vancouver has (minus an NHL team), but I paid less than 100 grand for my 2100 sq. ft home and have never once locked my doors (I don't even know if I have a key to them, to be honest). I think I'll stay here, thanks. |
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Hey Canadians--I have a question, eh 
