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saku11
Top Prospect
Canada
82 Posts |
 Posted - 02/10/2007 : 13:08:01
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which team should get a new goalie?
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Edited by - saku11 on 02/10/2007 13:43:23
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saku11
Top Prospect
Canada
82 Posts |
Posted - 02/10/2007 : 13:24:36
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i say the flyers need one and fast
HABS ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
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semin-rules
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1915 Posts |
Posted - 02/10/2007 : 14:47:24
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Florida! Belfour really sucks
~~~~~GO STARS~~~~~ |
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saku11
Top Prospect
Canada
82 Posts |
Posted - 02/10/2007 : 15:07:43
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dont forget that the panters have auld too.
HABS ALL THE WAY |
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I HATE CROSBY
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
538 Posts |
Posted - 02/10/2007 : 15:12:57
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Originally posted by semin-rules
Florida! Belfour really sucks
~~~~~GO STARS~~~~~
He has played pretty good the last couple of months I think......
(I love that guy...in an ungay way)
I HATE CROSBY |
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PuckNuts
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
2414 Posts |
Posted - 02/10/2007 : 21:26:11
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I agree, Belfour has not played all that bad, considering he had back surgery last season...
Light travels faster than sound, this is why some people appear bright, until they speak... |
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bablaboushka
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
2417 Posts |
Posted - 02/11/2007 : 09:51:01
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| Tampa without a doubt. I don't think they've ever had a good goalie. |
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lyall
PickupHockey Pro
360 Posts |
Posted - 02/11/2007 : 10:28:29
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| Edmonton needs a goalie. One that can play more than 2 games in a row. |
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Beans15
Moderator
Canada
8286 Posts |
Posted - 02/11/2007 : 11:17:23
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| Edmonton needs one that can win two in a row! |
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-oil-country-
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
988 Posts |
Posted - 02/11/2007 : 11:59:51
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Originally posted by bablaboushka
Tampa without a doubt. I don't think they've ever had a good goalie.
Khabibulin wasn't good?
Stats the year Tampa Bay won Stamley Cup:
Wins: 28
Losses: 19
Ties: 7
Shutouts: 3
Save %: .910
Goals Against Average: 2.33
Not bad in my opinion. |
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bablaboushka
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
2417 Posts |
Posted - 02/11/2007 : 12:22:47
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| Ok I won't lie, that was a good year for him. ONE year... |
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portman21
Top Prospect
Canada
32 Posts |
Posted - 02/11/2007 : 18:57:39
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tampa needs a good goalie... it has been their downfall over the past few years, with an exception of 2004
Take care comb your hair |
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-oil-country-
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
988 Posts |
Posted - 02/14/2007 : 21:01:13
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| Lol i agree Tampa Bay has had crappy goaltending other than that year. |
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oil guy
Rookie
Canada
122 Posts |
Posted - 02/15/2007 : 14:50:33
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Definately the Oilers.
They have needed a real #1goalie for a long time maybe since Fuhr.
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Beans15
Moderator
Canada
8286 Posts |
Posted - 02/16/2007 : 08:54:40
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Since Fuhr??? What about Ranford, Cujo, and Salo(before the Olympics)??
Roloson played well last night, but he is still a back up. Can't really string together more than a couple of good games in a row. |
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oil guy
Rookie
Canada
122 Posts |
Posted - 02/16/2007 : 14:12:04
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what did Salo do?
Ranford was good,
Cujo was a definate #1 but didnt do alot for the oil.
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Beans15
Moderator
Canada
8286 Posts |
Posted - 02/16/2007 : 15:33:21
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What did Salo do??
Had the highest save % of any Oiler goalie in history
Has more shut outs in an Oiler uniform than any other before or since.
Has the lowest GAA that any other Oiler goalie.
Plus, he played here 6 years. The first year, only 13 games. The last he was traded (obviously). However, in the 4 years he was the starter, he took the very mediocre Oilers to the playoffs 3 times. He was also an all-star twice while he played in Edmonton.
Statistically he was better than any other Oiler goalie in history. And he didn't have a great team in front of him. How quickly we forget.
(I am in no way saying he was one of the best ever, but was one of the best that wore an Oilers Jersey) |
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1 Crosby fan
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1454 Posts |
Posted - 02/16/2007 : 16:08:17
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Originally posted by Beans15
What did Salo do??
Had the highest save % of any Oiler goalie in history
Has more shut outs in an Oiler uniform than any other before or since.
Has the lowest GAA that any other Oiler goalie.
Plus, he played here 6 years. The first year, only 13 games. The last he was traded (obviously). However, in the 4 years he was the starter, he took the very mediocre Oilers to the playoffs 3 times. He was also an all-star twice while he played in Edmonton.
Statistically he was better than any other Oiler goalie in history. And he didn't have a great team in front of him. How quickly we forget.
(I am in no way saying he was one of the best ever, but was one of the best that wore an Oilers Jersey)
Beans you know how to say it man I agree with you |
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I HATE CROSBY
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
538 Posts |
Posted - 02/16/2007 : 22:48:50
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Originally posted by bablaboushka
Ok I won't lie, that was a good year for him. ONE year...
You're a joke.....Bulin was the fundemental building block in tampa, he played very well each year he was there. I think his WORST numbers with tampa were in 2004, his team just happened to win the cup that year....He was great in phoenix/winnipeg. And Darren Puppa was great with tampa when he wasn't injured. Sadly, he was typically injured, but when he was healthy, he was solid.
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I HATE CROSBY
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
538 Posts |
Posted - 02/16/2007 : 22:55:07
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Originally posted by oil guy
Definately the Oilers.
They have needed a real #1goalie for a long time maybe since Fuhr.
I know beans already said a lot about it.....But you need a little history lesson......Ranford was just as good as Fuhr buddy....He won the conne smythe in 1990...NO ONE thought they'd win in 1990, that was all Billy the Kid.....Remember that backwards diving glove save against Boston......YOU ARE A JOKE...what are you 12? That's the only excuse for you slamming ranford...He was a stud until he left...Those last years he was the ONLY good player on the team....WAKE UP!
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the hockey guy
Rookie
Canada
135 Posts |
Posted - 02/17/2007 : 08:27:06
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the leafs they have some promising prospects but they are in need of one if they are even gonna think about making a playoff run. Raycroft is a good backup
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oil guy
Rookie
Canada
122 Posts |
Posted - 02/17/2007 : 08:29:31
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Originally posted by Beans15
What did Salo do??
Had the highest save % of any Oiler goalie in history
Has more shut outs in an Oiler uniform than any other before or since.
Has the lowest GAA that any other Oiler goalie.
Plus, he played here 6 years. The first year, only 13 games. The last he was traded (obviously). However, in the 4 years he was the starter, he took the very mediocre Oilers to the playoffs 3 times. He was also an all-star twice while he played in Edmonton.
Statistically he was better than any other Oiler goalie in history. And he didn't have a great team in front of him. How quickly we forget.
(I am in no way saying he was one of the best ever, but was one of the best that wore an Oilers Jersey)
Stats dont win cups.
IMO to be a great #1 goalie, you need to win games on your own.
Fuhr let in a lot of goals but he usually let in at least one less than the what the team scored.
I think Salo was a good goalie but then so is pretty much every goalie to get to the NHL or why would they be there but was he great?
Not in my opinion.
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lyall
PickupHockey Pro
360 Posts |
Posted - 02/17/2007 : 10:00:42
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| Randford was awsome. Cujo was good. Salo is a tool. |
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Buick92
Top Prospect
Canada
73 Posts |
Posted - 02/17/2007 : 10:12:48
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how about Andy Moog I think he was good for them |
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Beans15
Moderator
Canada
8286 Posts |
Posted - 02/17/2007 : 11:45:05
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Let's be realistic here for a second. You are right, stats don't win cups. Gretzky, Messier, Anderson, Coffey, and Kuri win Cups. Face it, the Oilers would have won as many Cups with pretty much any goalie in net through the 80's. Fuhr is one of those guys that looked good because of the team in front of him
The team in front of Salo was very weak. He did his job for that team. 2 all stars in four years, 3/4 years in the playoffs with Weight, Guerin, and Smyth as the only players on that team. How does that make him a tool???
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lyall
PickupHockey Pro
360 Posts |
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oil guy
Rookie
Canada
122 Posts |
Posted - 02/17/2007 : 12:58:22
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You are right beans, Fuhr had a great offense in front but he also faced
alot of shots that he might not have had to if he had players willing to block them like the later year oilers teams, the last few oil goalies have had so many shots blocked in front of them that they looked better than they are, and every goalie in the NHL has a few highlite reel saves, I am not saying there goalies sucked but they are not the caliber of a Roy, Brodeur, or some of the other real #1 guys, and maybe small market Edmonton could not afford to lure a #1 goalie but could you imagine the oilers with a guy who when MAB blows it or Torres crushes a guy but leaves the puck for the other team or Hemsky deaks out the whole team only to miss the net and have the other team take it the length of the ice, not need to worry about your goalie because he is so solid that it is not a problem.
imo
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Guest5029
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Posted - 02/18/2007 : 22:05:32
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I feel sorry for Grant Fuhr because he doesn't get the respect he deserves because of his numbers. Fuhr was the best goalie in the NHL by a longshot in the Mid-eighties....not even close.
Put it this way, The Oilers were quite a bit looser in there own end in their first 3 cup runs than say Pittsburgh was in their 2. Not to say that the Pens were a defensive juggernault, just that the entire NHL game had started to evolve a little more defensively. Fuhr in his era definitely was definitely better than Barrasso. Gretzky said himself that they wouldn't have been as successful without Fuhr. Let's face facts guys.... Fuhr wasn't exactly in a 'Ken Dryden' kind of situation in his cup runs. |
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Beans15
Moderator
Canada
8286 Posts |
Posted - 02/19/2007 : 09:32:09
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I never once said Fuhr was a weak goalie, just that is is not a greatest ever. He is a HOF becuase of the Cups he had won with the Oilers, not his play. You could have put Mike Luit, Billy Smith, Ron Hextall, Pelle Lindburg, really most any goalie in the league through the 80's in goal for the Oilers and tehy still win 4 Cups. And you can't say with any confidence that Fuhr was the best of the mid-80's with Roy in the mix. Be realistic.
And Fuhr would have more than likely been a better statistically goalie if his team was more defensive. But it wasn't. That's like saying the Oilers would have won the Cup last year if they scored 4 more goals in the last game, but they didn't. You are stating the obvious, but it's not real.
And where is Salo now?? What does that matter. This talk was about Salo and his time in Edmonton. Whatever, I'm done with this one. I have my thoughts, you have yours. |
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PuckNuts
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
2414 Posts |
Posted - 02/19/2007 : 17:17:37
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Montreal my be looking now that Huet is out...
Light travels faster than sound, this is why some people appear bright, until they speak... |
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leafsfan1
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
338 Posts |
Posted - 04/12/2007 : 18:56:16
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Leafs!!!!! Raycroft sucks
Sens Suck
Habs Suck
Leafs Rule
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Kashmire
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
506 Posts |
Posted - 04/12/2007 : 19:40:25
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Raycroft isn't a bad goalie. He is usually pretty solid. Pogge will take over in the future. People need to watch Raycroft play and stop dissing him. He isn't that great but there are teams in more desperate goaltending situations in the league.
LA needs a better goaltender. I really like LA and I think if they could obtain a new goaltender they could become a team like Minnesota. |
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PainTrain
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1393 Posts |
Posted - 04/12/2007 : 19:55:55
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| Tampa Bay definately needs one. I can't believe they though Marc Denis was a #1. |
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juice32
Rookie
Canada
100 Posts |
Posted - 04/13/2007 : 06:16:37
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The Leafs despartly need a new goalie. I don't care how may wins Raycroft got......he still sucks ass!!
Wait a minute........the Leafs also need a:
1. new GM
2. new defence
3. new forwards
4. even the mascot sucks! |
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leafsfan1
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
338 Posts |
Posted - 04/13/2007 : 06:29:49
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quote:
Originally posted by juice32
The Leafs despartly need a new goalie. I don't care how may wins Raycroft got......he still sucks ass!!
Wait a minute........the Leafs also need a:
1. new GM
2. new defence
3. new forwards
4. even the mascot sucks!
 the mascot doesnt suck Carlton Rules and so do the defence and forwards
Sens Suck
Habs Suck
Leafs Rule
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manninm
PickupHockey Pro
USA
347 Posts |
Posted - 04/13/2007 : 06:31:23
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quote:
Originally posted by Kashmire
Raycroft isn't a bad goalie. He is usually pretty solid. Pogge will take over in the future. People need to watch Raycroft play and stop dissing him. He isn't that great but there are teams in more desperate goaltending situations in the league.
LA needs a better goaltender. I really like LA and I think if they could obtain a new goaltender they could become a team like Minnesota.
Agreed. He's a solid goalie, but won't get you to the cup |
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hithere311
Rookie
Canada
109 Posts |
Posted - 04/13/2007 : 14:30:31
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| Definitly LA. How can you say any other team? They had to put some Japanese guy in for Christ sakes. They've already moved through 6 goalies this season. LA needs better management too. |
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Leafs Rock Planet
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
902 Posts |
Posted - 04/13/2007 : 15:12:52
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I think Raycroft's a good goalie but can definetely improve
Always next year!! |
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OILINONTARIO
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
816 Posts |
Posted - 04/13/2007 : 16:23:58
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| Justin Pogge is way too young for JFJ to even consider holding on to. If he beleives in his Leafs, he will trade Pogge away for some "experience", to the Oilers, perhaps, for, say..... the rights to Reijo Ruotsalainen? |
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semin-rules
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
1915 Posts |
Posted - 04/13/2007 : 16:28:50
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The Flyers need a new goalie for sure.
~~~~~COME ON STARS, LETS BRING IT HOME~~~~~ |
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Mikhailova
PickupHockey All-Star
USA
2918 Posts |
Posted - 04/13/2007 : 16:36:25
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Heck, the Flyers need a whole new TEAM... |
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Need a new goalie? 
