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Utemin
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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 Posted - 04/12/2011 : 19:59:27
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East
Washington vs New York Rangers Washington in 6
Philadelphia vs Buffalo Philly in 4
Boston vs Montreal Boston in 5
Pittsburgh vs Tampa Bay Pittsburgh in 7
West
Vancouver vs Chicago Vancouver in 5
San Jose vs Los Angeles San jose in 6
Detroit vs Phoenix Detroit in 5
Anaheim vs Nashville Anaheim in 7
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Lunchbox
Top Prospect
Canada
88 Posts |
Posted - 04/12/2011 : 20:37:07
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Here goes nothing...
East
Washington vs New York Rangers: New York in 6
Philadelphia vs Buffalo: Philly in 5
Boston vs Montreal: Boston in 7
Pittsburgh vs Tampa Bay: Pitts in 6
West
Vancouver vs Chicago: Chicago in 7
San Jose vs Los Angeles: San Jose in 5
Detroit vs Phoenix: Detroit in 6
Anaheim vs Nashville: Anaheim in 6 |
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Beans15
Moderator
Canada
8286 Posts |
Posted - 04/12/2011 : 21:11:20
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Keep'em coming boys!! I have everything loaded into my tool that will track the progress. Last year we had 36 entries. This year, we have 31.
You have until tomorrow at 4:30pm EST to get your picks in or change your picks. It gives all you guys that forget that the Pres Trophy winner got knocked out in the 1st round for the past 2 seasons and that Vancouver hasn't beat Chicago in the playoffs in 30 years.
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Posted - 04/12/2011 : 21:42:34
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As you say guests can enter here goes:
Rangers over Caps in 7
Sabres over Flyers in 7
Boston over Montreal in 6
Lightning over Pittsburgh in 5
Canucks over Hawks in 7
SJ over Kings in 4
Detroit over Phoenix in 6
Anaheim over Nashville in 6
I REALLY hope I am wrong on the Habs series but you cannot let your heart rule your head and they have not been the same team since the Pacioretti hit. Javascript:insertsmilie(' ')
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polishexpress
PickupHockey Pro
525 Posts |
Posted - 04/12/2011 : 22:21:02
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Here's my bid, and like Pasty, I will either be brilliant or a fool with these picks, but I'm guessing I'll be the fool.
EAST:
WAS in 5
PHI in 6
BOS in 6
TB in 7
WEST:
CHI in 7
SJ in 6
DET in 6
ANA in 6 |
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Posted - 04/13/2011 : 04:54:38
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The moment you've all been waiting for . . . it's pickin' time! 
EAST
Washington vs NY Rangers - 5 games
Lundqvist steals one game, but without Callahan, the Rangers are toast. Caps roll.
Philly vs Buffalo - 4 games
Philly turns on the "it's playoffs!" switch, Miller gets bombed.
Boston vs Montreal - 6 games
Close series, but a couple of double overtimes later, the deeper team will win it.
Pittsburgh vs Tampa Bay - 7 games
Very tough series to pick, but the inside tip I got last night says Crosby is at best two or three weeks away, may never play again is actually probable.
WEST
Vancouver vs Chicago - 5 games
The Canucks steamroll the Hawks and make past failures a very distant memory.
San Jose vs Los Angeles - 6 games
I would have picked a sweep, except that it's the Sharks we are talking about, and they love a long series. Kings outmatched.
Detroit vs Phoenix - 6 games
The biggest upset of the first round, the Coyotes are a very tight defence, and are out for revenge. This year I will finally be right, and they will look old, slow, and get too many injuries.
Anaheim vs Nashville - 7 games
The very unsexy upset pick as everyone is dazzled by Anaheim's offence . . . but with no goalie and a poor D, Anaheim will get snuffed out. Better defence, better goaltending . . . who knew that was the winning formula for winning playoff series?
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tbar
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
376 Posts |
Posted - 04/13/2011 : 07:15:11
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Canucks in 7
Sharks in 5
Yotes in 7
Ducks in 4
Caps in 4
Flyers in 5
Bruins in 4
Lightning in 6 (unless Crosby comes back) |
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99pickles
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
671 Posts |
Posted - 04/13/2011 : 08:23:58
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Capitals in 6
Flyers in 6
Bruins in 5
Penguins in 6
Canucks in 6
Sharks in 6
Wings in 6
Preds in 6 |
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Mario 66
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
360 Posts |
Posted - 04/13/2011 : 14:07:19
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Gents realize I am late & understand if my picks do not count.
Wash - 5gams
Pitt - 6games
Philly - 6games
Bos - 6 games
Anah - 6 gms
Phx - 6gms
SJ - 5gms
Van - 6gms
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Beans15
Moderator
Canada
8286 Posts |
Posted - 04/13/2011 : 15:17:40
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Mario, you are in!
Any late entries up to the puck drop will be accepted. I put the early time to ensure most of the picks are in. I would prefer to spend my time watching the games rather than entering in a bunch of information.
Slozo, I can't argue with your logic on any of your picks except for two of them. Firstly, you missed the "Washington is grossly out-coached and even though the teams are not close talent wise, solid coaching will prevail. NYR in 7." Secondly, I think you put in a typo. What I think you meant to say way " I will wrong again in believing that Detroit is too old. Detroit in 6."
I am contiplating changing my Vancouver pick but I just don't know........ |
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Alex116
PickupHockey Legend
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Posted - 04/13/2011 : 15:28:20
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Originally posted by Beans15
I am contiplating changing my Vancouver pick but I just don't know........
Lol, i was gonna say "don't change it" cuz i wanna see the defending champ get off to a slow start, but i'm guessing your reply was gonna be "no, no, i was gonna change it to Chicago in 5!".....  |
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Posted - 04/13/2011 : 20:10:52
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Originally posted by Beans15
Mario, you are in!
Any late entries up to the puck drop will be accepted. I put the early time to ensure most of the picks are in. I would prefer to spend my time watching the games rather than entering in a bunch of information.
Slozo, I can't argue with your logic on any of your picks except for two of them. Firstly, you missed the "Washington is grossly out-coached and even though the teams are not close talent wise, solid coaching will prevail. NYR in 7." Secondly, I think you put in a typo. What I think you meant to say way " I will wrong again in believing that Detroit is too old. Detroit in 6."
I am contiplating changing my Vancouver pick but I just don't know........
Ummm . . . I know I was late with changing my avatar (sorry Pasty, fixed now), but Beans . . . I think I need to see that 'ol blue and white now! It's the only thing that will make it bearable to wear the bleu blanc et rouge . . .
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug |
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Beans15
Moderator
Canada
8286 Posts |
Posted - 04/13/2011 : 20:17:38
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Got home a little late this evening Slozo. But it's there. You know I pay my bets.
That's it. Round one is locked those who are in are listed below.
Good luck everyone
Leafs81
HawkinOilCountry
Thrasher17
Ryan93
MrBoogedy
tbar
Gusteroni
Nuxfan
Slozo
Sensfan101
Alex116
polishexpress
Umteman
Utemin
99pickles
Awesome One
Guest4915
Pushrod
Pasty7
Toxxik1
Kirby
Guest9122
Guest0409
Formeex
Guest6089
OilinOntario
Guest9190
Oilearl
Probert
Fat Elvis Rocked
Porkchop73
Sashis34
Lunchbox
Bean15
Guest7632
Mario66
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Alex116
PickupHockey Legend
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Posted - 04/13/2011 : 20:47:19
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Aw man, i'm already getting confused by these avatar changes! Now, i just need Mr. Boogety to show up sporting some Canucks love!  |
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Beans15
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8286 Posts |
Posted - 04/13/2011 : 21:24:53
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Here is a look as how people picked overall. The number in brackets indicates how many (out of 36 people) picked the team win.
Washingon(29) vs New York Ranger(7)
Philadelphia(31) vs Buffalo(5)
Boston(28) vs Montreal(8)
Pittsburg(16) vs Tampa Bay(20)
Vancouver(26) vs Chicago(10)
San Jose(33) vs Los Angeles(3)
Detroit(27) vs Phoenix(9)
Anaheim(29) vs Nashville(7)
Without any upsets, it looks like the TB/PITT series will dictate who moves on............ |
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Alex116
PickupHockey Legend
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Posted - 04/13/2011 : 22:29:12
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I'm a little surprised at how little love there is for Buffalo. These teams seemed to be going in the opposite direction as the season wound down? In their last 10 games, they were:
Buffalo 8-1-1
Philly 3-4-3
Sure, Philly could kick it into playoff mode and play like they did last year behind not so spectacular goaltending, but Miller is a huge edge in net for Buffalo and can steal games on his own! I think this one's gonna be a long series. |
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Beans15
Moderator
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Posted - 04/13/2011 : 23:10:32
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Buffalo is one of those well coached teams that can make noise. But I can't see any more than one or two teams that are deeper top to bottom than Philly. You can look at just about any time of the season and see Philly far ahead of Buffalo. The last 10 games Philly is already in and pretty much assured a top seed. Buffalo had to win to keep those meatballs from TO at bay. It is not comparable.
What surprises me is the lack of love for Pitt. This is a team that has lost 2 of the top 5-7 players in the NHL and still fought all the way to the end for the very top of the NHL. Not just the east, the entire NHL. Only Van had more wins and only Van and WAS had more points. More people think that TB will win?? Why??
That is shocking. They are the only higher seed that is not the heavy favorite in our little game. |
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Posted - 04/14/2011 : 05:12:22
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On Pittsburgh, I hear ya, Beans . . . but the problem is, I really do keep waiting for the reality check to happen in Pittsburgh. If it wasn't a weaker team defensively like TB, it would have been easy to bet against the Pens, but as it was I still bet against them. Why?
TB has experience, and proven leaders like Lecavalier and St.Louis. They also have a bunch of young blood in there, thirsty for the playoffs. And I was sort of expecting a first game loss, to be frank . . . happens with every younger team, where they get their own "reality check", realise that it's a whole different level in the playoffs, and get to it next game. I expect that whole different level to happen game two, with St. Louis leading the charge.
But it was a tough decision for me, Beans, to go with TB, and who knows, it might be one series I am quite wrong on.
That's the fun of it!
btw, love lookin' at that blue and white 
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug |
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Mario 66
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
360 Posts |
Posted - 04/14/2011 : 07:10:56
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Fleury & the pylons keep plugging away. Maybe soon enough Fleury will garner the respect he deserves. Like it or not he is the best big game goalie in the league now that Brodeur is on his way out
In youth we learn; in age we understand |
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Beans15
Moderator
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8286 Posts |
Posted - 04/14/2011 : 07:53:07
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Let's not forget that the defensive group for PItt of Orpik, Letang, Martin, Michalek. Niskanen, and Lovejoy is (IMHO) the absolute top group of defensemen in the league. Couple that with who Mario coins as the best big game goalie in the game today and it is going to be very, very tough to score on this team.
Defense wins Championships.
Secondly, their scoring is pretty deep. Does anyone realize that Kovalev is a PPG playoff player and has been (or very close to it) for the past 5+ seasons??? Kunitz, Neal, Staal. They are not a world class offensive group compared to the crews in Philly, Washington, or Vancouver but they are not as bad as people think.
This is all without Crosby. If Slozo's inside tip is remotely close and Crosby does play again, he may be back just in time for the 2nd round.
Dangerous.
49 wins, just 4 fewer than the President's trophy winner. More than any other team in the East. What bubble are people talking about. Pitt is a great, great hockey team without their superstars. I see them as unstoppable if Crosby and Malkin are in the line up. |
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Posted - 04/14/2011 : 10:54:09
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Originally posted by Beans15
Let's not forget that the defensive group for PItt of Orpik, Letang, Martin, Michalek. Niskanen, and Lovejoy is (IMHO) the absolute top group of defensemen in the league. Couple that with who Mario coins as the best big game goalie in the game today and it is going to be very, very tough to score on this team.
Defense wins Championships.
Secondly, their scoring is pretty deep. Does anyone realize that Kovalev is a PPG playoff player and has been (or very close to it) for the past 5+ seasons??? Kunitz, Neal, Staal. They are not a world class offensive group compared to the crews in Philly, Washington, or Vancouver but they are not as bad as people think.
This is all without Crosby. If Slozo's inside tip is remotely close and Crosby does play again, he may be back just in time for the 2nd round.
Dangerous.
49 wins, just 4 fewer than the President's trophy winner. More than any other team in the East. What bubble are people talking about. Pitt is a great, great hockey team without their superstars. I see them as unstoppable if Crosby and Malkin are in the line up.
Uh Beans, I think you misread my inside tip:
Crosby is, in all probability, not coming back for the first round, the second round, or any round. He's not coming back, and neither is Malkin obviously.
A team led by Kovalev cannot do that much damage offensively, one would think. Seriously, the guy is a soft floater - he just happens to have been on some very good (and in Montreal's case last year, surprising) teams.
And I totally disagree with you on that group of defencemen being the top group in the league . . . in fact, it sounds downright ridiculous.
Just because they play well as a team, or have a good system, doesn't make them world class. Letang is a great player; the rest are ok, to ordinary, to serviceable.
But they are playing well right now, and obviously Fleury is hot right now too.
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug |
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Alex116
PickupHockey Legend
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Posted - 04/14/2011 : 11:12:35
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Slozo, you beat me to it! "IT" being.....
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Originally posted by Beans15
Let's not forget that the defensive group for PItt of Orpik, Letang, Martin, Michalek. Niskanen, and Lovejoy is (IMHO) the absolute top group of defensemen in the league.
Beans, WTF??? I find it hard to believe you're serious and i'm actually thinking that you're trying your best to get one of us Canucks fans to bite? Okay, you got me....CHOMP, CHOMP!
NFW in the world does that group you listed comprise the "absolute top group of defensemen in the league", "absolute" being the craziest part of it. I'm not by any means saying they're scrubs, and had you said "one of the best groups" i wouldn't be commenting, but they're not the top! Sure, it's your opinion and supposedly opinions can't be wrong, but i'm not so sure about that after reading yours!
If that group is better than Ehrhoff / Edler / Hamhuis / Bieksa / Salo / Ballard / Rome / etc., then.....then....then............ i'm speechless!  |
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Posted - 04/14/2011 : 12:04:20
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nuxfan
PickupHockey All-Star
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Posted - 04/14/2011 : 12:05:07
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If that group is better than Ehrhoff / Edler / Hamhuis / Bieksa / Salo / Ballard / Rome / etc., then.....then....then............ i'm speechless!
It is not. There are certainly pieces of the PIT defense that stand out: Orpik is a solid crushing defender, Letang (and to some extent Martin) is offensively gifted, and the rest are servicable capable defenders. However, the top-6 for VAN, as a group, is superior IMO. |
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Beans15
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Posted - 04/14/2011 : 14:23:49
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So, performance means nothing I guess. 49 wins, just 4 fewer than those mighty Canucks. How did Pittsburgh do that with such a significantly lower producing offensive team??How does that happen, with a group of marginal defensemen??
Wow, I am shocked that I get jumped all over for making a very logical comment. Fine, even if one could say that Vancouver's group is comparabale to Pitts, what other team can?? Is there any other team in the NHL that can say they were 1st in the PK, 5th in shots against, and 7th in goals against??? Other than Vancouver, is any other defensive group better?? Has any other group produced as well??
Just a little piece if information for you:
Vancouver's top 6 defensemen - 142 points.
Pitt's top 6 defensemen - 154 points.
Pitt had a better PK, allowed fewer shots against, and were marginally worse in overall goal against. How does that make Vancouver's defensive group better???
When people say things like 'Opinions can't be wrong but when I read one like this...."
Seriously, genius, tell me what teams are better than Pitt's top 6???? If all you can bring up is Vancouver, how far off it my comment?? If you think you can bring up others, you better be prepared to back up their performance that meets or exceed's Pittsburgh's.
I know I can back up my opinion. |
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nuxfan
PickupHockey All-Star
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Posted - 04/14/2011 : 14:51:46
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So, performance means nothing I guess. 49 wins, just 4 fewer than those mighty Canucks. How did Pittsburgh do that with such a significantly lower producing offensive team??How does that happen, with a group of marginal defensemen??
The canucks played exactly 1 game in the regular season with their current top-6 defensemen - the last game of the year vs CGY. In many cases, they were playing without 2 of them, and for a stretch there back in Feb, were playing without 5. The won 53 games despite never having the full group together - which is more a testament to the depth of the defense in the VAN farm system than anything else I think.
I would say the "actual" VAN top-6 of Edler/Ehrhoff/Ballard/Bieksa/Hamhuis/Salo is certainly better than the PIT top-6. In that group when healthy, you've got 3 dmen capable of 40+ point seasons offensively, 4 very solid PP point men, all of them are physical players. They all play in every situation (even, PP, PK), and are all capable of 20+ minutes per game. I don't think any of them would be lower than top-4 on any other team. |
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nuxfan
PickupHockey All-Star
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Posted - 04/14/2011 : 14:54:42
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Seriously, genius, tell me what teams are better than Pitt's top 6???? If all you can bring up is Vancouver, how far off it my comment
Your comment is 100% off - you said PIT was the absolute best, all I have to do is bring up one that is better to discredit it.
I didn't say PIT had a crap defense, they obviously don't as they've come this far with so little else. But "absolute best"? No way. |
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Posted - 04/14/2011 : 15:09:05
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Originally posted by Beans15
So, performance means nothing I guess. 49 wins, just 4 fewer than those mighty Canucks.
Vancouver Canucks 54 Wins
Pittsburgh Penguins 49 wins
difference 5! not 4 jeeeez |
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Posted - 04/14/2011 : 15:33:54
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Let's get off the Pittsburgh defence topic please - this is for the PKH series pick'em comments only.
I have started a new thread on Pittsburgh's D.
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug |
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Beans15
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Posted - 04/14/2011 : 18:04:55
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Slozo is right, see my response in the Pittsburgh thread.
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Beans15
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Posted - 04/21/2011 : 08:28:16
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Congrats to Me and everyone else who realizes that Detroit is still a top team and not too old......
Unfortunately, most of my other picks have gone to complete crap. If NYR could have pulled out a win last night it would be been a different story. I still hold out hope for the Blackhawks but the first 5 minutes of the game tonight will tell that story will tell that story. Philly/Buf is pretty scary and the Bruins at least 2 but most likely 2 more wins in Montreal to take that series.
Looks like I picked the wrong upsets. |
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ToXXiK1
PickupHockey Pro
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Posted - 04/21/2011 : 08:32:21
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Originally posted by Guest4803
how long will it take before bruin fans start chanting USA USA tonight? im saying 5 minutes in.
Guest:
Probably no longer than it takes Habs fans to boo the national anthem. |
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Beans15
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Posted - 04/27/2011 : 21:13:30
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Here we go guys. Anyone bolded moves on to round 2, everyone else(including last years champ) is out.
Those who are moving on, you have until midnight (EST) tomorrow ( April 28th) to get your picks in.
Name Correct Picks Game Differential
Guest9190 6 0
Guest6089 6 1
Sashis34 6 1
Ryan93 6 1
Gusteroni 6 1
Formeex 6 1
99pickles 6 2
Slozo 6 3
Pushrod 6 3
Leafs81 6 3
Nuxfan 6 4
polishexpress 5 0
Kirby 5 1
Thrasher17 5 1
Fat Elvis Rocked 5 1
Guest4915 5 1
Umteman 5 2
Utemin 5 4
Guest9122 5 4
tbar 5 7
Porkchop73 4 0
HawkinOilCountry 4 1
Oilearl 4 1
Bean15 4 1
Pasty7 4 1
Guest7632 4 1
Probert 4 3
Sensfan101 4 3
Mario66 4 3
Alex116 4 3
Guest0409 4 3
OilinOntario 4 4
Awesome One 4 6
Toxxik1 4 8
MrBoogedy 3 0
Lunchbox 3 1
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polishexpress
PickupHockey Pro
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Posted - 04/27/2011 : 22:41:26
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Here's my two-cents for the 2nd round:
Wings in 6
Canucks in 6
Capitals in 6
Flyers in 6 |
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Alex116
PickupHockey Legend
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Posted - 04/27/2011 : 23:19:21
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Beans...
I must be tired or drunk or something?? I add my picks up to 5, not 4 and i had a quick look at a few others and noticed more correct than you credited? Tbar for example had 6 (you had him for 5), 99pickles had 7 (you had 6) as well as pushrod who also had 7 but only credit for 6? There were a few others i noticed on a quick glance too???
Prob not enough to squeeze me through, but thought i'd mention it??? Unless i'm completely out to lunch (which is def possible), it seems you've mistaken one of the winning teams in round 1??? Prob the Canucks. Did you do the math before last night's game, or after? J/K, but it almost seem as you have one series wrong or something???
PE, did you not have 6 and get credit for just 5? Maybe i'm reading this wrong or something??? |
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Leafs81
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Posted - 04/28/2011 : 03:57:08
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Alex I noticed that too. I had 7 series predicted right and I was written in at 6.
Anyhow with 7 good predictions it's safe to say that I'm in for the second round. So here are my predictions.
Washington 4 - Tampa Bay 3
Philadelphia 4 - Boston 3
Vancouver 4 - Nashville 2
Detroit 4 - San Jose 2
*I predicted Boston to win the cup but seeing how they played against Montreal I don't think they can hold a beast like Philly, especially now that Pronger has returned. It's still the series I'm looking forward to the most. |
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Posted - 04/28/2011 : 04:30:35
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I had 7 out of 8 right. Since no one got all 8 right, it must be close to tops. Give me some credit here, man! I only had the Phoenix over Detroit upset pick wrong, every other team I chose was bang on.
Beans, I will wait for you to go over each person's picks once again, as it's your show. But please . . . a little more care in counting, dude.
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Posted - 04/28/2011 : 05:44:58
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There were a bunch of people with 7 correct out of 8:
Each person is listed with # series correct, + # of games off actual series length FOR THE CORRECT SERIES PICKS ONLY (only makes sense, IMHO)
The standings as I have tabulated, please check yourselves as well . . . a six way tie for 1st!
T1 - Pushrod: 7, +7
T1 - Formeex: 7, +7
T1 - Gusteroni: 7, +7
T1 - Ryan93: 7, +7
T1 - slozo: 7, +7
T1 - 99 Pickles: 7, +7
7 - Leafs81: 7, +8
8 - nuxfan: 7, +9
9- Polishexpress: 6, +4
T10 - Guest4915: 6, +5
T10 - Alex116: 6, +5
T10 - umteman: 6, +5
T13 - Kirby: 6, +6
T13 - Thrasher17: 6, +6
T13 - Guest6089: 6, +6
T16 - Guest9190: 6, +8
T16 - FatElvisRocked: 6, +8
T16 - TBar: 6, +8
19 - AwesomeOne: 6, +9
Not trying to step on your toes here, Beans, just tryin' to help out. 
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ryan93
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 04/28/2011 : 05:56:16
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| The only one i didn't get was Anaheim/Nashville...which i felt was one of my safest picks. I thought for sure Anaheim would get past the Preds. |
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Thrasher17
Top Prospect
Canada
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Posted - 04/28/2011 : 06:59:42
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My picks are;
Washington over Tampa Bay in 6
Boston over Philly in 7
Vancouver over Nashville in 5
San Jose over Detroit in 6 |
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PKH Series Winner Game - Picks in by Wed @ 4:30pm 
