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Guest6071
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Posted - 04/28/2011 :  07:26:31  Reply with Quote
Hi all,

Finally got my username figured out. I was originally Guest6089.

My picks for the 2nd round are:

EAST
(1) Philly in 6
(2) Washington in 6

WEST
(1) Vancouver in 6
(2) Detroit in 7

Thanks.
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Pushrod
Top Prospect



Canada
44 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2011 :  08:16:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for noticing the extra correct pick everyone. Now on to Round 2:

Washington in 6
Boston in 6
Vancouver in 5
San Jose in 7
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Beans15
Moderator



Canada
8286 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2011 :  08:32:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Clearly there is an issue with the tool I am using. I will check it when I get home later tonight. For now, I would appreciate if EVERYONE put in picks for the 2nd round. I will re-run the numbers properly and load the picks in for people who should be moving forward.

My apologies for the confusion.
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nuxfan
PickupHockey All-Star



3670 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2011 :  08:36:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My picks:

VAN/NSH - VAN in 6
DET/SJ - DET in 6
BOS/PHI - BOS in 6
WSH/TB - WSH in 6
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dwalsh77
Top Prospect



3 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2011 :  08:46:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi again,

This is Guest6071, AKA Guest6089. I thought I had my username issue solved but it seemed my last post was also as a Guest.

Second time's a charm - I hope

So again, my picks for the 2nd round are:

EAST
(1) Philly in 6
(2) Washington in 6

WEST
(1) Vancouver in 6
(2) Detroit in 7

I apologize for the confusion.
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Posted - 04/28/2011 :  09:03:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No worries, Beans . . . we do appreciate the extra time and effort put into keeping track of this stuff.

I did have a couple of questions for you though . . . in regards to the total number of games off we are at predicting series length:
1) Do you count the wrong predictions as well?
IMHO, this would be bad form, as if I predicted Phoenix in4 games, and instead, Detroit wins in 4 . . . that's not only wrong, it's at the other end of the spectrum - and yet, if counted along with the correct predictions, it would be perfect.
2) I hope you are not counting +1 if over a game, and -1 if under a game.
This would also wildly skew the real value of being off by one or two games in series length. For instance, if doing it this way, a guy picked Washington in 6and Detroit in 5, he'd be at 0, and another guy who picked Washington in 5 and Detroit in 6 would be at +2. Even though in total, they were both off by 2 games, one guy looks like he was perfect, in essence.

My thought is , we should just be counting series wins for the length; and counting total number of deviation, regardless of whether it's too short or long.

Just my two cents.

"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug
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fat_elvis_rocked
PickupHockey Pro



Canada
902 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2011 :  10:45:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here goes;

California Golden Seals in 6
Kansas City Scouts in 5

err....sorry must be the concussions that were improperly called 'bell rings'.

sorry, couldn't help myself....

Washington beats Tampa in 6 games
Boston beats Philly in 6 games
Detroit beats San Jose in 7 games
Vancouver beats Nashville in 6 games
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Alex116
PickupHockey Legend



6113 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2011 :  10:51:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Beans15

Clearly there is an issue with the tool I am using. I will check it when I get home later tonight. For now, I would appreciate if EVERYONE put in picks for the 2nd round. I will re-run the numbers properly and load the picks in for people who should be moving forward.

My apologies for the confusion.



No worries dude, and thanks for running this again. I looked over the results 5 times before posting my comment last night just to be sure i was right!! Kept saying to myself, Philly really did win, right? TBay did just win a couple hours ago, right? Etc....

Then i thought maybe you were not giving credit for the Vancouver win, just because.

Although i prob still don't qualify with 5, i'll throw my picks out there anyway.

Washington in 6
Boston in 7

Vancouver in 5
San Jose in 7
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Gusteroni
Rookie



Canada
225 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2011 :  11:33:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Alrighty. The Ducks have seemingly ruined my chances in my playoff pool but I still have a chance for bragging rights here.

The second round is an intriguing one to say the least.

Can the Caps get past round two for once? Personally I think we see Stamkos light it up a lot more in this series. What is the injury status of Semin, Wideman, and Green? Ovie can't do it all. How is the Boston VS Philly re-match going to turn out...goaltending will surely be a factor. Although we seen very little offence from the Bruins I like this match up better than the Habs as the Bruins might be able to keep up to the Flyers. Lucic will be better...he has to be.

In the west, can the Wings continue to do what they seem to always do...win? I usually never bet against this team and if Zetterberg is back he will be a major contributor, also I usually never bet on the Sharks, no explanation needed. Is Nashville going to turn out to be that dark horse team this year? After all, they do have a great d-man tandem and all world goalie. The twins will need to be a lot better if they are to make it to the final, they looked a little afraid against the Hawks.

Hmmmm....

Well here it goes....

East:

Washington VS Tampa Bay - Tampa Bay in 7
Philadelphia VS Boston - Boston in 6

West:

San Jose VS Detroit - Detroit in 7
Vancouver VS Nashville - Vancouver in 6

Good Luck Everyone!!!

"When Hell freezes over, I'll play hockey there too."
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Sensfan101
PickupHockey Pro



Canada
500 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2011 :  12:37:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Washington in 6
Philadalphia in 6

San Jose in 7
Nashville in 7


You miss 100 percent of the shots you don't take Wayne Gretzky
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ryan93
PickupHockey Pro



Canada
996 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2011 :  13:07:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Washington in 7
Philadelphia in 6

Vancouver in 5
Detroit in 7
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tbar
PickupHockey Pro



Canada
376 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2011 :  14:42:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wsh in 5
Philly in 5

Van in 6
SJ in 7
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99pickles
PickupHockey Pro

Canada
671 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2011 :  16:24:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Couldn't get here any earlier, sorry.

Here are my guesses...

Detroit def San Jose in 6
Vancouver def Nashville in 6

Boston def Philly in 6
Tampa def Was in 6
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99pickles
PickupHockey Pro

Canada
671 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2011 :  16:43:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Beans15

Clearly there is an issue with the tool I am using. I will check it when I get home later tonight. For now, I would appreciate if EVERYONE put in picks for the 2nd round. I will re-run the numbers properly and load the picks in for people who should be moving forward.

My apologies for the confusion.



I assumed that Beans put up that leaderboard before the final series was completed when there couldn't be any changes to the eliminated vs. the uneliminated in our own game. I assumed that there couldn't be any changes to those 'on the bubble' due to same picks or something..
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Beans15
Moderator



Canada
8286 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2011 :  17:31:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Nope, I just forgot to update the tool I use. Please take a look a the list below as I believe it is now correct.

Those in bold move on

Name Correct Picks Game Differential
Guest9190 7 0
Ryan93 7 1
Gusteroni 7 1
Formeex 7 1
99pickles 7 2
Slozo 7 3
Pushrod 7 3
Leafs81 7 3
Nuxfan 7 4
polishexpress 6 0
Guest6089 6 1
Sashis34 6 1
Kirby 6 1
Thrasher17 6 1
Fat Elvis Rocked 6 1
Guest4915 6 1
Umteman 6 2
Utemin 6 4


Didn't make the cut
tbar 6 7
Oilearl 5 1
Bean15 5 1
Guest7632 5 1
Sensfan101 5 3
Mario66 5 3
Alex116 5 3
Guest0409 5 3
Guest9122 5 4
OilinOntario 5 4
Awesome One 5 6
Toxxik1 5 8
Porkchop73 4 0
HawkinOilCountry 4 1
Pasty7 4 1
Lunchbox 4 1
Probert 4 3
MrBoogedy 3 0

Edited by - Beans15 on 04/28/2011 19:52:39
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Beans15
Moderator



Canada
8286 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2011 :  17:35:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by slozo

No worries, Beans . . . we do appreciate the extra time and effort put into keeping track of this stuff.

I did have a couple of questions for you though . . . in regards to the total number of games off we are at predicting series length:
1) Do you count the wrong predictions as well?
IMHO, this would be bad form, as if I predicted Phoenix in4 games, and instead, Detroit wins in 4 . . . that's not only wrong, it's at the other end of the spectrum - and yet, if counted along with the correct predictions, it would be perfect.
2) I hope you are not counting +1 if over a game, and -1 if under a game.
This would also wildly skew the real value of being off by one or two games in series length. For instance, if doing it this way, a guy picked Washington in 6and Detroit in 5, he'd be at 0, and another guy who picked Washington in 5 and Detroit in 6 would be at +2. Even though in total, they were both off by 2 games, one guy looks like he was perfect, in essence.

My thought is , we should just be counting series wins for the length; and counting total number of deviation, regardless of whether it's too short or long.

Just my two cents.

"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug




Slozo, I appreciate your 2 cents and I will be sure to take this into account in future season. However, the rules are what they are, they have been set, and I do not have the time nor the interest to change them now.

Remeber this before next year and we can make some changes.
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Posted - 04/28/2011 :  18:13:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sorry! Seconds late, here are my picks:

Vancouver over Nashville in 6 games.
San Jose over Detroit in 6 games.

Washington over Tampa Bay in 7 games.
Philadelphia over Boston in 5 games.

"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug
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Beans15
Moderator



Canada
8286 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2011 :  19:53:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Don't worry about being late. One day turn around is pretty tight. I will load all the information in the next day or two as I am pretty busy at work. That being said, anything that has a edit done after today will be forfieted. I mean, this is really serious stuff.
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Guest9904
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Posted - 04/28/2011 :  20:57:39  Reply with Quote
quote:
slozo Posted - 04/28/2011 : 18:13:31 Sorry! Seconds late, here are my picks:

Vancouver over Nashville in 6 games.
San Jose over Detroit in 6 games.

Washington over Tampa Bay in 7 games.
Philadelphia over Boston in 5 games.

"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug


Typical of Habs fan, always late!
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Alex116
PickupHockey Legend



6113 Posts

Posted - 04/28/2011 :  21:58:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by slozo

Sorry! Seconds late, here are my picks:

Vancouver over Nashville in 6 games.
San Jose over Detroit in 6 games.

Washington over Tampa Bay in 7 games.
Philadelphia over Boston in 5 games.

"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug



I say you should ban this guy Beans! He's entering past the deadline!!! I wouldn't even refund his entry fee!

Good luck to those who made it through. I've always hated the Flyers and now i hate'em even more! Yeah, i had Buffalo.
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Guest9190
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Posted - 04/29/2011 :  19:13:54  Reply with Quote
Im so sorry! i know im a day and a half late but please let me in!!!!!!!

Here are my picks just in case Beans15 is a nice guy!

WEST
Vancouver v.s Nashville: Vancouver in 6
Detroit v.s San jose: Detroit in 7

EAST
Washington v.s Tampa: Washington in 6
Philly v.s Boston: Philly in 6
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Kirby
Top Prospect



Canada
66 Posts

Posted - 04/29/2011 :  23:28:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hopefully Im not too late, but if I am then oh well I guess,

Tampa in 7
Boston in 6
Vancouver in 5
Detroit in 7

A good hockey player plays where the puck is. A great hockey player plays where the puck is going to be. -Wayne Gretzky
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formeex
Top Prospect



3 Posts

Posted - 04/30/2011 :  14:52:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey Guys!
hopeully youll accept some late picks here...i went to boston for gm 7 and i had no internet access...im at a truck stop now streaming the game (go bruins) and seed im near the top in the rankings...so hopefully this will be ok! my picks havent changed....
boston over phili in 6 (thomas is a beast)
was over TB in 7
Van over Nashville in 5
Sj over Det in 6

hope this is ok! sorry its so late again...but had to make the trip to game 7!!
go bruins!
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Beans15
Moderator



Canada
8286 Posts

Posted - 05/01/2011 :  09:14:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have everything loaded that I have received to this point. I have not gotten anything from

Sashis34, Umeteman, Utemin, and Guest4915.

If you want in, I think you can put in your picks before the end of the first game today. I think if we let it go any longer, it gives the late picks an unfair advantage.

Here is the breakdown of picks to this point. The number if brackets is the number of people who picked that team to win.

Vancouver (14) vs Nashville (0)
San Jose(4) vs Detroit(10)
Philadelphia(6) vs Boston(8)
Washington(11) vs Tampa Bay (3)
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Guest5052
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Posted - 05/01/2011 :  12:47:12  Reply with Quote
Hey, just saw I made the cut

If Im not too late my picks are:

West

Van in 6
SJ in 6

East:
Bost 6
Wash 7
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Beans15
Moderator



Canada
8286 Posts

Posted - 05/01/2011 :  18:12:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Guest5052

Hey, just saw I made the cut

If Im not too late my picks are:

West

Van in 6
SJ in 6

East:
Bost 6
Wash 7



Which guest are you?? Are you 4915???
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Guest5052
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Posted - 05/02/2011 :  08:44:55  Reply with Quote
Yeah I am 4915... i am guessing that my guest number changes from home to work computer... or each time i post.

Sorry for any confusion.

I may have to look into getting an account. I enjoy the chatter on here.
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Posted - 05/13/2011 :  04:31:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just had a quick look and . . . looks like no one got it perfect, but there were a few 3/4s. I got 2/4 myself, so hopefully I advance!



"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug
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Beans15
Moderator



Canada
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Posted - 05/13/2011 :  05:37:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The list below should be complete. Please double check it and let me know if there are any issues.

Those in bold go on(top 1/2 and ties). For the 3rd round, a third tie-breaker will be total goals scored(both teams combined) in each series.

Put your picks in as soon as possible.

Name Correct Picks Game Differential
99pickles 3 3
Pushrod 3 3
Thrasher17 3 3
Formeex 3 3
Kirby 3 4
Guest4915 3 4
Gusteroni 3 5
Nuxfan 2 3
Slozo 2 3


Fat Elvis Rocked 2 4
polishexpress 1 3
Guest9190 1 4
dwalsh77 1 4
Ryan93 1 4
Leafs81 1 5

Edited by - Beans15 on 05/13/2011 05:39:38
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Posted - 05/13/2011 :  05:59:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Looks like I just barely made it . . . oooohh, and you cut off FatElvis? That is a tough cut, the only guy with 2 correct picks to not make it to the third round?

My vote is to include him the third round, but that is just me.

Actually, I don't get it . . . why is the cut-off where it is, Beans? Why at the 9th person (myself in this case)? Seems totally arbitrary.

My Picks:

Vancouver vs San Jose - Canucks in 6 (31 total goals)
The Sharks are a deep team and will give a tough fight, but they haven't met a defence the equal of Vancouver, and eventually their scoring will dry right up.

Boston vs Tampa Bay - Lightning in 6 (27 total goals)
No Bergeron to me means that Boston wins two games because of Thomas, and the Lightning stars become too much for the Boston D to handle.

"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug
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formeex
Top Prospect



3 Posts

Posted - 05/13/2011 :  06:26:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My Picks...

Boston in 6 ( May be betting with me heart here... gonna be tough without Bergeron! ) 33 GOALS

San Jose in 7 36 GOALS

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Guest5052
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Posted - 05/13/2011 :  07:01:26  Reply with Quote
Guest 4915 here';

Van beats SJ in 5 - 21 goals scored.

Bost beats TB in 6 -36 goals
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Beans15
Moderator



Canada
8286 Posts

Posted - 05/13/2011 :  07:25:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Arbitrary???

1/2 of entries plus ties move on. 17 people
9 people made it through with the last 2 people tied with picks and games.

How is that arbitrary???

If FER puts in an entry, I will take it.

I am calling this out right now, I am not doing this again next year. Someone else can put it on and deal with Slozo and his '2 cents' after every round. I committed to this year so I will finish it but my time is worth something and when people bring up crap about how things are done, how ties are decided, who is in and who is out, my time becomes more valuable doing something else.
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Thrasher17
Top Prospect



Canada
84 Posts

Posted - 05/13/2011 :  08:23:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My picks are:

Tampa in 6 - 30 goals
Vancouver in 6 - 28 goals
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nuxfan
PickupHockey All-Star



3670 Posts

Posted - 05/13/2011 :  08:24:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
there is nothing arbitrary, beans made the rules pretty clear at the beginning - the rest is just math. Looks like Slozo and I squeaked into the next round by a single game differential over FER.

My picks:
SJ/VAN: VAN in 6, 25 goals
BOS/TB: BOS in 6, 30 goals
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Gusteroni
Rookie



Canada
225 Posts

Posted - 05/13/2011 :  09:27:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ahhhh, Conference Finals. Here we go...

Canucks VS Sharks - Canucks in 6 - 29 Goals
Bruins VS Lightning - Bruins in 6 - 27 Goals

"When Hell freezes over, I'll play hockey there too."
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Posted - 05/13/2011 :  10:26:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Beans15

Arbitrary???

1/2 of entries plus ties move on. 17 people
9 people made it through with the last 2 people tied with picks and games.

How is that arbitrary???

If FER puts in an entry, I will take it.

I am calling this out right now, I am not doing this again next year. Someone else can put it on and deal with Slozo and his '2 cents' after every round. I committed to this year so I will finish it but my time is worth something and when people bring up crap about how things are done, how ties are decided, who is in and who is out, my time becomes more valuable doing something else.



You listed 15 people, beans.

You kept the top 9.

That is why it seemed arbitrary to me. Nuxfan, count it up, mathman. What kind of math is a 9/15 split? What is with the fur up and the hackles raised just because I ask a question?

I have no problem running it next year, btw. I like to do things fairly, as much as possible, and don't mind if someone is politely wondering why something is done a certain way or is suggesting a more fair way to figure things out.



"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug
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nuxfan
PickupHockey All-Star



3670 Posts

Posted - 05/13/2011 :  10:54:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah, there are 9 out of 15, but the bottom 2 are tied. So, the top 8 positions went through, which ends up being 9 people. If you and I were not tied, only one of us would have gone through, making it 8 out of 15. FER didn't make it because he was not tied with us.

In the very first post of this thread, read rule 3: "After each playoff round, the top 1/2 of the entries (plus ties) will move on to the next round". Note the plus ties portion.

Edited by - nuxfan on 05/13/2011 10:55:56
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Beans15
Moderator



Canada
8286 Posts

Posted - 05/13/2011 :  11:41:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey Smart guy, two people made it to the 2nd round and didn't put teams in. 15 who put in teams and 2 who did not make up 17 for the 2nd round. What is 1/2 of 17 plus ties??? Me thinks it's 9, but correct me if I am wrong.

And politely wondering?? You knew the rules when we started and you agreed to them with your entry. You said nothing until AFTER the 1st round. Then you spew about what's fair and not fair on the number of games. Then, you don't like the split of the number of people going on to the 3rd round, even though that was also very clear in the rules.



Edited by - Beans15 on 05/13/2011 11:45:12
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Guest9235
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Posted - 05/13/2011 :  20:58:08  Reply with Quote
Tampa in 6 (32 goals)
Vancouver in 7 (30 goals)
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