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Oilearl
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Posted - 07/03/2011 :  12:53:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That would be Slaney and Franson
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ryan93
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Posted - 07/03/2011 :  13:03:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
First off, yes, was very happy to hear Brad signed with the Rangers. Hopefully he can find some chemistry with Gaborik, and help turn around the Rangers awful PP.

I'd like to see the Rangers bring back Vinny Prospal now. Not only was he one of the best Rangers down the stretch (had 23 points in 29 games after coming back from injury), but he's had some good chemistry in the past playing with Brad Richards in TB. I don't see it happening though...once they sign their 4 RFA's (Callahan, Dubinsky, Anisimov, Boyle), they'll have 14 NHL forwards, with young a couple of young guys sure to make a push in camp as well.

So i was wrong, Vokoun did indeed sign with the Capitals! I thought they were content at least going into the season with their young tandem in goal, but picking up Vokoun is a huge upgrade...especially at $1.5 million! I had already said when i posted yesterday morning that i really liked what the Capitals have done so far...well even more so now with Vokoun in the mix.

Edited by - ryan93 on 07/03/2011 13:23:37
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foolpittier
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Posted - 07/03/2011 :  14:19:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
redwings pick up ian white, yay
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ryan93
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Posted - 07/03/2011 :  15:23:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Originally i thought you might see Kaberle end up in Detroit, but with the White signing looks like it's not going to happen. Starting to look like he may stay in Boston.
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Sensfan101
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Posted - 07/03/2011 :  15:48:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Leafs81

quote:
Originally posted by nuxfan

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In my mind, so far, Washington are the clear winners in the offseason.



Well, that remains to be seen, WSH is now in bit o' cap trouble.

- 22 players signed, need 1 more
- 500K in cap space
- notable RFA's not signed yet: Karl Alzner, Troy Brower (the same Brower that they gave up a first round pick for). I'm sure they want to keep both.

They still have work to do.
Still have work and still lots of time. They can get rid of either Knuble, Fehr or Chimera to leave place for Brouwer. And with a defense that already has Green, Wideman, Hamrlik, Poti, Schultz, Carlson and Erskine this leaves little room for Alzner. One of them wont get a spot and his cap hit wont matter. A third goalie will be easy to get for under a million.






There is no way the Caps let Alzner go he was in their top defense pairing last year and has great chemistry with Carlson. Also they are not really in need of a third goalie Braeden Holtby is very capable.

You miss 100 percent of the shots you don't take Wayne Gretzky

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Beans15
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Posted - 07/03/2011 :  16:03:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Leafs81

quote:
Originally posted by nuxfan

quote:

In my mind, so far, Washington are the clear winners in the offseason.



Well, that remains to be seen, WSH is now in bit o' cap trouble.

- 22 players signed, need 1 more
- 500K in cap space
- notable RFA's not signed yet: Karl Alzner, Troy Brower (the same Brower that they gave up a first round pick for). I'm sure they want to keep both.

They still have work to do.



Still have work and still lots of time. They can get rid of either Knuble, Fehr or Chimera to leave place for Brouwer. And with a defense that already has Green, Wideman, Hamrlik, Poti, Schultz, Carlson and Erskine this leaves little room for Alzner. One of them wont get a spot and his cap hit wont matter. A third goalie will be easy to get for under a million.



Getting rid of Alzner would be a mistake in my opinion. He is a proven winner (2 WJC golds as Captain) and was part of Washington's shutdown pairing last season. Plus, he is 22 yrs old.

Personally, Alzner makes Poti expendable. I would take a 22 yr old Alzner over a 34 yr old Poti any day of the week.
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foolpittier
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Posted - 07/03/2011 :  16:24:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ryan93

Originally i thought you might see Kaberle end up in Detroit, but with the White signing looks like it's not going to happen. Starting to look like he may stay in Boston.




i thought karberle would end up in detroit aswell.
white and commodor... is just junk.
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Leafs81
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Posted - 07/03/2011 :  17:19:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Beans15

quote:
Originally posted by Leafs81

quote:
Originally posted by nuxfan

quote:

In my mind, so far, Washington are the clear winners in the offseason.



Well, that remains to be seen, WSH is now in bit o' cap trouble.

- 22 players signed, need 1 more
- 500K in cap space
- notable RFA's not signed yet: Karl Alzner, Troy Brower (the same Brower that they gave up a first round pick for). I'm sure they want to keep both.

They still have work to do.



Still have work and still lots of time. They can get rid of either Knuble, Fehr or Chimera to leave place for Brouwer. And with a defense that already has Green, Wideman, Hamrlik, Poti, Schultz, Carlson and Erskine this leaves little room for Alzner. One of them wont get a spot and his cap hit wont matter. A third goalie will be easy to get for under a million.



Getting rid of Alzner would be a mistake in my opinion. He is a proven winner (2 WJC golds as Captain) and was part of Washington's shutdown pairing last season. Plus, he is 22 yrs old.

Personally, Alzner makes Poti expendable. I would take a 22 yr old Alzner over a 34 yr old Poti any day of the week.



I didn't want to make it sound like they should get rid of him. Just saying that they have a lot of defense to chose from. So they can easily get rid of anybody else. I believe I said one of them wont make the cut.

And for Holtby, true, I was just trying to say that they don't have much cap issues like nuxfan pointed out. A couple of players out and a couple of RFA's signed. They are tight against the cap but they do have some players that are expendables like Beans said about Poti.
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nuxfan
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Posted - 07/03/2011 :  19:47:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Still have work and still lots of time. They can get rid of either Knuble, Fehr or Chimera to leave place for Brouwer. And with a defense that already has Green, Wideman, Hamrlik, Poti, Schultz, Carlson and Erskine this leaves little room for Alzner. One of them wont get a spot and his cap hit wont matter. A third goalie will be easy to get for under a million.



I'm pretty sure that Alzner fits into their plans for the future - 5th overall pick 3 years ago, only 22 but playing in their top-4 as a very solid defensive dman. They're going to have to make room to sign him, or someone is going throw an offer sheet at him that WSH may have a hard time matching. My guess would be that he'll command 1.75-2M a season on his next contract.

Brower will probably command 1-1.5M, so right away WSH has 3M-ish more they have to sign.

Knuble and Chimera are likely victims, and both together would cover off their shortcoming. I don't think that Fehr is going anywhere either, see reasons for them keeping Alzner. Still, certainly doable, they just aren't finished yet.
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nuxfan
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Posted - 07/03/2011 :  22:02:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
the NHL is investigating the Talbot deal for cap circumvention, apparently because the last 2 years of the deal are less than half of the salary amount of either of the first 2 years.

The Richards and Ehrhoff deals got around this small inconvenience by simply making large chunks of the first 2 years of the contract signing bonus - in both those cases the "salary" for years 1 and 2 is only 2M, which means the final 2 years can be 1M each. However, "signing bonuses" that add 10M and 8M respectively to the contracts in each of the first 2 years is apparently not cap circumvention.

Hilarious. If only Lou had figured that loophole out, he could have had Kovalchuk for a 3M cap hit and given him 50M in signing bonuses over those years... or better yet, get him to the league minimum and give him the rest as a bonus? I can't believe that a signing bonus end-run around "salary" was missed in the CBA?

Edited by - nuxfan on 07/03/2011 22:04:39
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foolpittier
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Posted - 07/04/2011 :  12:58:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Heatley 4 Havlat strait up & strait up dumb
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Sensfan101
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Posted - 07/04/2011 :  16:31:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The Flames sign Anton Babchuck to a two year contract worth 5 million.

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foolpittier
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Posted - 07/05/2011 :  11:47:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
andrew ladd winnipeg jets 5yr's 22mil
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Pasty7
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Posted - 07/05/2011 :  13:35:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Kaberle to the Canes 12mil and change for 3 years

"I led the league in "Go get 'em next time." - Bob Uecker
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semin-rules
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Posted - 07/05/2011 :  13:42:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Joe Corvo to the Bruins for a 4th round pick in 2012
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Beans15
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Posted - 07/05/2011 :  13:48:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Pasty7

Kaberle to the Canes 12mil and change for 3 years

"I led the league in "Go get 'em next time." - Bob Uecker




Can't believe how much a players stock can drop in such a short amount of time. A Christmas time most people would have said Kaberle would be a big ticket free agent. A couple of average months and he literally signed for the same money he was making before.

The Canes still have a pile of money to spend to get to the bottom of the cap/
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Pasty7
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Posted - 07/05/2011 :  14:16:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Beans15

quote:
Originally posted by Pasty7

Kaberle to the Canes 12mil and change for 3 years

"I led the league in "Go get 'em next time." - Bob Uecker




Can't believe how much a players stock can drop in such a short amount of time. A Christmas time most people would have said Kaberle would be a big ticket free agent. A couple of average months and he literally signed for the same money he was making before.

The Canes still have a pile of money to spend to get to the bottom of the cap/



i know beano i almost thought it was his brother coming back to the canes lol

"I led the league in "Go get 'em next time." - Bob Uecker
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Posted - 07/05/2011 :  14:47:50  Reply with Quote
im glad the jets re-signed Ladd he is worth the money a great player, leader, and has good work ethic can't wait to see him play next season
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semin-rules
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Posted - 07/05/2011 :  15:13:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Preds signed free agents Zack Stortini & Kyle Wilson

Stortini to a 1 year, two-way $550k deal
Wilson to a 2 year $1.1m deal (1st year is two-way, 2nd year is one-way)

and the Sens pick up Zenon Konopka to a 1 year/$700k contract

Edited by - semin-rules on 07/05/2011 15:32:35
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semin-rules
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Posted - 07/05/2011 :  15:15:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The leafs signed Clarke MacArthur to a 2 year/$6.5m contract

and the Coyotes signed Keith Yandle to a 5 year/$26.25m extention

Edited by - semin-rules on 07/05/2011 15:34:15
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Posted - 07/06/2011 :  11:44:12  Reply with Quote
St Louis signs veteran pair of Arnott and Langenbrunner.
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99pickles
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Posted - 07/06/2011 :  12:11:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What the hell is going on in Washington??

Here's their current situation:

-- They are $1.8M over the cap
-- clearly they have to let UFAs Arnott and Scott Hannan go without an offer
-- They still have RFA Alzner to take care of (I would think they want to keep him very badly)
-- even after this, they have this long list of FAs coming up next summer: Green, Semin, Fehr, Knuble, Wideman, Chimera, Halpern, Carlsson, DJ King, Beagle and Vokoun. So they are going to be right back at it next summer.

They are going to have to trade their way out of this jam or buy out any 2 of Knuble, Poti and Chimera (there are simply NO other buyout candidates as the rest of their roster is either stars, up-and-comers, recent acquisitions/re-signings, or too low of a salary for a buyout to work).

I suppose they could trade away one of the buyout players I suggested...that would be much better move. Like Knuble to Detroit for a 4th rounder perhaps?
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nuxfan
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Posted - 07/06/2011 :  12:32:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I would not be surprised if Semin was on the block...
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99pickles
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Posted - 07/06/2011 :  14:55:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by nuxfan

I would not be surprised if Semin was on the block...



Good call, that makes sense as well.
His $6.7M is too much for his value imho, but he is a UFA at the end of next season, so he could help a team get to the salary floor just for next season.
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99pickles
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Posted - 07/07/2011 :  15:19:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just wanted to put an update on Commodore:

http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Why-Mike-Commodore-must-wear-No-64-with-the-Red;_ylt=Aii.kuTmv_nhnFUrDj8S6bNShgM6?urn=nhl-wp8787
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