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willus3
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Canada
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 Posted - 04/06/2007 : 08:59:10
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Poll Question:
This series is set. Home ice yet to be determined. Who takes this series?
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Patchy
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 04/06/2007 : 09:00:59
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I say Pittsburgh, Ottawa always chokes at playoff time. 
~~Go Leafs Go~~ |
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leafsfan1
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 04/06/2007 : 09:02:33
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pitsburgh although they havent made it to the playoffs for a while but ottawa sucks in the playoffs
Go Leafs Go |
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-oil-country-
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 04/06/2007 : 09:03:09
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| I say Ottawa because Pittsburgh is too young and i don't think Fleury can do the job. |
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Kashmire
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Canada
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Posted - 04/06/2007 : 09:06:26
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| I pray Crosby gets shot out of the sky in the first round. Go Ottawa. |
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willus3
Moderator
Canada
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Posted - 04/06/2007 : 09:06:32
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| The only way Pittsburgh wins this is if Fleury an Thibault stand on their heads. |
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Leafs Rock Planet
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 04/06/2007 : 09:17:20
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Ottawa takes it in 7
Leafs 4 Playoffs!! |
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PENSFAN8771
Rookie
USA
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Posted - 04/06/2007 : 11:32:01
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| While I have my concerns between the pipes, the Penguins will take this series. They're 3-1 against the Sens this season and their three wins are all one-win games. The Penguins have won when it's close in the season series and close games are how playoff hockey games are played. The Pens have added a strong veteran in Gary Roberts who has helped produce and lead. Let's also not forget Mark Recchi who has been a leader for the team on and off the ice all season. While it's not NHL experience, the team als has some other champions. Crosby won the Q's championship in '05, Malkin won the Spengler Cup in '05, and both Staal and Crosby have won world Junior Championships and Staal won the OHL championship. This is a huge help with confidence. They also do have 2 Stanley Cup rings in the locker room and a couple more in the front office. |
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Saku Steen
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Canada
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Posted - 04/06/2007 : 13:18:59
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| Its hard to say. Probably Pittsburgh, even though they young. |
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1 Crosby fan
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 04/06/2007 : 13:22:55
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Just like what Patchy said they choke in the playoffs
Winners never Quit and Quitters never win
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ED11
Rookie
Canada
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Posted - 04/06/2007 : 13:46:18
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| I think Pittsburgh will take the series in six games. I know that they are an inexperienced team and their goalies have not really felt the pressure of the NHL playoffs. But, with that said, I don't think that Emery is exactly that goalie that will push Ottawa to a cup either. Ottawa has been off and on all year and everyone knows Ottawa's histroy of choking in the first round, haha. |
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PainTrain
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 04/06/2007 : 16:18:26
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| If Ottawa plays there game they can win it easily but it's playoffs anything can happen. |
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Blubberboy
Rookie
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Posted - 04/06/2007 : 21:49:23
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quote:
Originally posted by Patchy
I say Pittsburgh, Ottawa always chokes at playoff time.
~~Go Leafs Go~~
Haha. So true. Pittsburgh will probably take it.
Go `nucks |
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Patchy
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
529 Posts |
Posted - 04/06/2007 : 22:08:26
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Or, it would be even better if somehow in the second or third round, the leafs play the sens and sweep them (or just beat them) like usual. 
~~Go Leafs Go~~ |
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Canucks Man
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Canada
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Posted - 04/06/2007 : 22:52:26
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I gotta go with the Pens on this one, I dont think it will be a blowout though, I think we will see the true importance of Recchi and Roberts come playoffs time, and even with the Inexpierence among most of there players Ottawa doesnt have much expeirence either, look at Heatley last year was his first playoffs.
also goaltending, both teams dont have much expierence with gerber choking last year and giving up his starting job and emery not having alot of expierence, that is were I think Thibault might come in handy.
CANUCKS RULE!!!
Get The Towels Out Guys PLAYOFFS!!! |
Edited by - Canucks Man on 04/06/2007 22:56:38 |
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I HATE CROSBY
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
538 Posts |
Posted - 04/06/2007 : 23:57:00
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Originally posted by Canucks Man
I gotta go with the Pens on this one, I dont think it will be a blowout though, I think we will see the true importance of Recchi and Roberts come playoffs time, and even with the Inexpierence among most of there players Ottawa doesnt have much expeirence either, look at Heatley last year was his first playoffs.
also goaltending, both teams dont have much expierence with gerber choking last year and giving up his starting job and emery not having alot of expierence, that is were I think Thibault might come in handy.
CANUCKS RULE!!!
Get The Towels Out Guys PLAYOFFS!!!
If you looked a little deeper, you'd realize thibault was HORRIBLE in his miniscule playoff appearances........Ray was great last year minus game one of round 2
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Edited by - I HATE CROSBY on 04/07/2007 00:00:54 |
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BigShow
Rookie
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Posted - 04/07/2007 : 01:21:18
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I think this will be a great series.
I suspect the difference will be Emery over Fleury.
Ottawa in six. |
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willus3
Moderator
Canada
1948 Posts |
Posted - 04/08/2007 : 20:59:16
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| I think Crosby and Roberts are going to crank it up a bit. Assuming we get good goaltending at both ends this should be a very entertaining series. |
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Guest4197
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Posted - 04/09/2007 : 19:11:50
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| hahah wow.. a lot of you have know clue of what you're saying.. yes i am an ottawa fan but i will try not to be biased.. okay.. every pittsburgh player has almost NO playoff experience.. ottawa players have at least 2-3 years each.. you cannot compare reg. season to playoffs dude.. totally different hockey. like that one year the leafs swept ottawa.. even though ottawa beat the leafs in reg.season 5 out of 5.. as well, pittsburgh has NO DEFENSE!!! go look at how many goals they let it in compared to the other teams..at least 60 more than ottawa (lol im bulls***ting off the top of my head but i could be right..).. As well, ive been to ottawa vs pittsburgh games.. live.. and when ottawa plays hard and physical, pittsburgh has to rely on hooking up the ottawa players, thus lots of penalties.. watch for ottawa in 4 or 5. |
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Guest4197
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Posted - 04/09/2007 : 19:14:14
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| hey i just posted above.. i forgot to add this in... for the guy who says ottawa ALWAYS chokes in the 1st round.. your wrong, they usually make 2nd round, and a couple years ago they even made it to 3rd.. check your stats before you spit biased crap out of ur mouth you leafs fan.. |
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bablaboushka
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 04/09/2007 : 19:18:29
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| Well 1st round, 2nd round, 3rd round... what's the difference? In the playoffs it's all or nothing. Anything in between is a failure too. |
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Guest4197
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Posted - 04/09/2007 : 20:11:36
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| nah you're just being pessmistic.. i see it as progress.. ottawa is a great team but they have one thing thta is draggin them down for playoffs,.. alfredsson.. if you go back and look at stats, no team with a european captain has ever won the cup.. and alfredsson tends to give up in the playoffs when the sens are down.. european players cant take the heat like north americans in playoff time..however dont get me wrong, i love european playeres and i think they are a great asset to the nhl. |
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PENSFAN8771
Rookie
USA
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Posted - 04/11/2007 : 10:28:44
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| So I was reading the previews on the Ottawa and Pittsburgh sites today and I noticed something. The Penguins had a story on their front page saying that Home Game C tickets were sold out in 11 minutes (I didn't even get through). Ottawa has a story about how playoff tickets are still available (including for tonight's game). This seems to fly in the face of the all to commonly held cover all belief that Canadian hockey fundamentally sells better than hockey in the US. |
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PENSFAN8771
Rookie
USA
114 Posts |
Posted - 04/11/2007 : 10:29:46
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| TIckets are still available for Canucks Game 1 in Vancouver too! |
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BigShow
Rookie
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Posted - 04/11/2007 : 11:00:45
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Ottawa is a relatively small city, and not the hotbed of hockey fanatics you'll find in most Canadian cities.
Pittsburgh on the other hand is fairly rabid recently, at least in comparison to many American cities. |
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Guest4400
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Posted - 04/12/2007 : 20:01:24
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pittsburgh has 50 times the talent then ottawa has got on their team. Ottawa doesnt have a good leader, pittsburgh does. Even though they only have 10 playoff veterans on their team i think theyll pull through. ottawa cant make it past the 3rd round if there lives dpeended on it.
go pens go! |
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I HATE CROSBY
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
538 Posts |
Posted - 04/13/2007 : 00:06:47
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quote:
Originally posted by Guest4400
pittsburgh has 50 times the talent then ottawa has got on their team. Ottawa doesnt have a good leader, pittsburgh does. Even though they only have 10 playoff veterans on their team i think theyll pull through. ottawa cant make it past the 3rd round if there lives dpeended on it.
go pens go!
Maybe in 10 years the pens will have more talent than Ottawa...but now? WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!
Ottawa can roll 4 lines with ease, pittsburgh can roll 2 lines on a good day...name one good D-man on pittsburgh...Even w/o Chara the sens are still one of the best teams defensively.....Alfredson is a great leader (ummmmm pitts doesn't even have a captain buddy....and Gary has played with the team for, like a month...What right does he have to lead that team?)...Not to mention those core guys on the sens have been together a while....Only 2 teams a year can make it to the finals, I hate ppl who slam the sens poor playoff performances....They have been competitive in every series they played in, and just came up a little short....
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Guest4400
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Posted - 04/13/2007 : 05:33:33
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Maybe in 10 years the pens will have more talent than Ottawa...but now? WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!
Ottawa can roll 4 lines with ease, pittsburgh can roll 2 lines on a good day...name one good D-man on pittsburgh...Even w/o Chara the sens are still one of the best teams defensively.....Alfredson is a great leader (ummmmm pitts doesn't even have a captain buddy....and Gary has played with the team for, like a month...What right does he have to lead that team?)...Not to mention those core guys on the sens have been together a while....Only 2 teams a year can make it to the finals, I hate ppl who slam the sens poor playoff performances....They have been competitive in every series they played in, and just came up a little short....
alfredson cant lead a team. he has proven that over the past what, six years? ottawa has been in the playoffs for the last 10 years and they havnt done anything with it. pittsburgh went from being one of the last place teams, to the top half. you dont know what your talking about. and i "slam" ottawa because i know they suck. i live there for christ sakes and i am sick of chering for a team that wont get anywhere. you just hate sidney crosby, who you know is the best player in the league. grow up and learn to respect the great players of the game. |
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bablaboushka
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Canada
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Posted - 04/13/2007 : 08:20:52
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| 4400, please keep the personal attacks out of your posts. |
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Beans15
Moderator
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Posted - 04/13/2007 : 10:38:21
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| Ottawa sucks??? Wow, next thing I am going to hear is that Heatley is weak goal scorer, Spezza's a below average playmaker, and Ottawa's defense is mediocre. Although another colorful delivery, I agree completely with IHC. Pittsburgh with 50 times the talent?? Maybe in football. |
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Guest6791
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Posted - 04/13/2007 : 11:21:58
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Alfredsson not a leader? Penguins have 50 times more talent? Wow, whatever you guys are drinking in Pittsburgh, I want some of that!
Next thing you'll say is that Steve Yzerman was a bad leader as well? If you look at his career, all with Detroit, they didn't win a Cup with him until 13 years into his tenure!
The Penguins don't have depth the Sens do. They don't have the goaltending, they don't have the offensive prowess, and they don't have the defence.
Love Crosby, Roberts, Stall, Malkin and Gonchar all you want, but one line doesn't win you a Playoff series.
And if the Sens continue to play the way they did in Game 1, then the Pens will be finished in 4. |
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I HATE CROSBY
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 04/13/2007 : 13:55:22
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quote:
Originally posted by Guest4400
alfredson cant lead a team. he has proven that over the past what, six years? ottawa has been in the playoffs for the last 10 years and they havnt done anything with it. pittsburgh went from being one of the last place teams, to the top half. you dont know what your talking about. and i "slam" ottawa because i know they suck. i live there for christ sakes and i am sick of chering for a team that wont get anywhere. you just hate sidney crosby, who you know is the best player in the league. grow up and learn to respect the great players of the game.
hahahahah...I love a good joke. No, Heatly is substaintially better than sid (he doesn't need to dive into nets to get a goal)....A lot of players are better than Crosby buddy. Alfredson is a great leader...If he wasn't, don't you think they would have named a new captain by now? As I said, only one team from the east can make it to the finals each year, and if not for the devils, the sens would have been there and all would be forgotten (NJD is the only team I don't think the sens can defeat)......I tend to RESPECT players due their behavior on/off the ice more than their talent (oh and by the way, that ovi guy has got more talent too)...And if you watched game one, you'd see Crosby doesn't deserve any respect, running around the ice ripping into refs every 5 seconds, if anyone needs to grow up, it's Sid, not me buddy.
I HATE CROSBY |
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willus3
Moderator
Canada
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Posted - 04/13/2007 : 15:04:39
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quote:
Originally posted by I HATE CROSBY
quote:
Originally posted by Guest4400
alfredson cant lead a team. he has proven that over the past what, six years? ottawa has been in the playoffs for the last 10 years and they havnt done anything with it. pittsburgh went from being one of the last place teams, to the top half. you dont know what your talking about. and i "slam" ottawa because i know they suck. i live there for christ sakes and i am sick of chering for a team that wont get anywhere. you just hate sidney crosby, who you know is the best player in the league. grow up and learn to respect the great players of the game.
hahahahah...I love a good joke. No, Heatly is substaintially better than sid (he doesn't need to dive into nets to get a goal)....A lot of players are better than Crosby buddy. Alfredson is a great leader...If he wasn't, don't you think they would have named a new captain by now? As I said, only one team from the east can make it to the finals each year, and if not for the devils, the sens would have been there and all would be forgotten (NJD is the only team I don't think the sens can defeat)......I tend to RESPECT players due their behavior on/off the ice more than their talent (oh and by the way, that ovi guy has got more talent too)...And if you watched game one, you'd see Crosby doesn't deserve any respect, running around the ice ripping into refs every 5 seconds, if anyone needs to grow up, it's Sid, not me buddy.
I HATE CROSBY
Are you referring to him yapping at the ref when he had his goal denied? If so he had every right to yap about that. It was a goal. It wasn't pretty but it was a goal.
"Go chase headlights!" |
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bablaboushka
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Posted - 04/13/2007 : 21:11:20
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| Not to mention that horrible hooking call. |
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Guest4197
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Posted - 04/14/2007 : 08:23:50
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okay well im with IHC... Crosby is an all star i cannot deny that...he has unbelievable talent but one player can't win yout he stanley cup. Guest 4400 is just a toronto fan AHAHAHAHA. that's why he comes onto forums to bash the sens. I hate people who say Ottawa chokes.. if ottawa chokes, then 15/16 teams that make the playoffs every year are chokers as well then. whoever coined that false fact probably rides the shorter bus to school and leads his t-ball team in errors. plus, ottawa has only been in the playoffs for 9-10 years now, in comparison to other teams like toronto who have had many chances, yet blow it in the reg season.
p.s. alffie is a great leader, thats why he's been captain for as long as he has, and thats why he hasnt had his C removed. Plus, he's lead the team into the playoffs for many years now, and has been a solid overall point scorer. |
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willus3
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Posted - 04/14/2007 : 09:34:50
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1998-99
Team W L T GF GA Pts
Ottawa Senators 44 23 15 239 179 103
Buffalo Sabres 37 28 17 207 175 91
Ottawa is 3rd overall and loses in four straight to Buffalo in first round.
2000-01
Team W L T OTL GF GA Pts
Ottawa Senators 48 21 9 4 274 205 109
Toronto Maple Leafs 37 29 11 5 232 207 90
Ottawa is 4th overall in the league and loses four straight to the leafs in the first round.
This is largely how they earned their choking reputation.
"Go chase headlights!" |
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Guest4197
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Posted - 04/14/2007 : 16:16:37
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| 2 out of 10 years that ottawa has made the playoffs... hey willus, what about the year they made it to the 3rd round.. oh ya i forgot you're life is one big negative |
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willus3
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Posted - 04/14/2007 : 16:44:43
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quote:
Originally posted by Guest4197
2 out of 10 years that ottawa has made the playoffs... hey willus, what about the year they made it to the 3rd round.. oh ya i forgot you're life is one big negative
I was merely trying to explain why they are labeled chokers. I didn't say I thought they were.
My life is a big negative? Do you know me clown? Typical comment from a guest.
"Go chase headlights!" |
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andyhack
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Posted - 04/14/2007 : 17:11:04
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I'm not saying this is gonna happen with Ottawa, and today of course isn't the best day to be positive about Ottawa, but if you look at sports historically there are quite a few examples of teams, or players in individual sports, who have had the label of "choker" before becoming champions. Two examples which come to mind are the New York Islanders of the late '70s with losses to underdog teams like the '78 Leafs and the '79 Rangers, before beginning their dynasty in '80, and in the sport of tennis, Ivan Lendl, who for the first few years of his career "couldn't win the big one" and blew a couple of pretty good chances, but then went on to win 8 Grand Slams.
I don't know what side that puts me on, if any, in this debate but thought I'd throw it out there. I guess it means that even if they are "chokers", don't be too upset by the label Ottawa fans. There is always hope (even for Bruin fans!). |
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I HATE CROSBY
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Posted - 04/14/2007 : 23:10:37
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quote:
Originally posted by willus3
1998-99
Team W L T GF GA Pts
Ottawa Senators 44 23 15 239 179 103
Buffalo Sabres 37 28 17 207 175 91
Ottawa is 3rd overall and loses in four straight to Buffalo in first round.
2000-01
Team W L T OTL GF GA Pts
Ottawa Senators 48 21 9 4 274 205 109
Toronto Maple Leafs 37 29 11 5 232 207 90
Ottawa is 4th overall in the league and loses four straight to the leafs in the first round.
This is largely how they earned their choking reputation.
"Go chase headlights!"
Well, Hasek was absolutely heroic in all of those 4 games....He made something like 40 saves a night when Buffalo beat them (don't forget how incredible hasek was back then..he could win games single handedly with ease)
And again...Cujo stole that show in 2000-2001....Lightning did strike twice there (ie :running into an unbeatable goalie)...The Sens have never had that kind of goalie....They usuallly have had good ones, but not those kinds......When a goalie gets into a zone, they can singlehandedly destroy a team (remember Guigere in 2003 against Detroit in round one?......no one calls the wings a choke team)
I HATE CROSBY |
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willus3
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Canada
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Posted - 04/15/2007 : 07:18:27
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Absolutely correct IHC. It's happened many times in the past. In the 70's Ken Dryden and Bernie Parent did the same thing to several teams.
"Go chase headlights!" |
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