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andyhack
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 Posted - 10/31/2007 : 14:39:06
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If you could only choose one player from each of the:
50s
60s
70s
80s
90s
2000s
to make up a first all-star team of the greatest ever, what would your team look like?
You have to go by when the player was in his prime. If you take Orr, you have to count him as your 70s player. If you take Gretzky, you have to count him as your 80s player. And then, thats it, no other player from the 70s, 80s, etc. can be taken other than the one you choose to represent it. Just one player to represent one decade
And you have to have a line-up just the way the 1st All Stars would be picked – one left winger, one center, one right winger, two defensemen and one goalie.
Kind of an old topic, but I think it has an interesting new twist. Not as easy as you might think at first glance.
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Beans15
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Posted - 10/31/2007 : 14:54:13
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50-Harvey(D)
60-Howe (W)
70-Orr (D)
80-Gretzky (C)
90-Messier (W)
00-Brodeur (G)
The only guy I would have really liked to put on the team is Lemieux, but then I would have to take out Gretzky or Messier. Tough choice.I still think I'm pretty tough to beat.
Nice thread Andy, your pretty cool for a Bruins fan!!
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andyhack
PickupHockey Pro
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Posted - 10/31/2007 : 15:01:13
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Originally posted by Beans15
50-Harvey(D)
60-Howe (W)
70-Orr (D)
80-Gretzky (C)
90-Messier (W)
00-Brodeur (G)
The only guy I would have really liked to put on the team is Lemieux, but then I would have to take out Gretzky or Messier. Tough choice.I still think I'm pretty tough to beat.
Nice thread Andy, your pretty cool for a Bruins fan!!
Ahhh, meant to add this - go generally by
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NHL_All-Star_Team
for how the players were considered at the time. Messier seems to have been considered a center in the 90s for example.
Oh, and thanks for the compliment Beans. But don't be too hard on other Bruins fans. We have been through a lot of tough times! |
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Beans15
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Posted - 10/31/2007 : 15:18:01
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But Messier played all forward positions through one time or another. Why can't I put him on the wing??
C'mon Andy, now your just being mean! Changing the rules after the game started.
Did you have many friends in school????
If you want to know an opinion, feel free ask. If you want to know information, do your research! |
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andyhack
PickupHockey Pro
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Posted - 10/31/2007 : 15:27:14
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Sorry, I meant to put that on the first post, but my wife asked me some question about something and I got distracted (blaming the wife - VERY LOW - don't do that in the future, kids!).
Anyway, I'm curious who you will take instead of Mess - Interesting just how well-regarded Kariya was in the 90s on the left side, isn't it?
Or does this mean you will juggle your line-up now?
I had 4 friends in elementary school, 24 friends in high school and 77 friends in university, if you know what I mean !. |
Edited by - andyhack on 10/31/2007 15:28:57 |
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Beans15
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Posted - 10/31/2007 : 15:35:20
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My New and Improved team:
50-Harvey
60-Bobby Hull
70-Orr
80-Gretzky
90-Jagr
00-Brodeur
Now I had to take out Gordie Howe!!
Still like my line up however. Would have liked Lemiuex and Messier on the team, but I can't take out WG.
If you want to know an opinion, feel free ask. If you want to know information, do your research! |
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willus3
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Posted - 10/31/2007 : 16:17:01
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50's - Ted Lindsay - LW
60's - Howe - RW
70's - Orr -D
80's - Lemieux - C
90's - Bourque - D
00's - Brodeur - G
"I'm a man of principle... or not. Whatever the situation calls for." - Alan Shore |
Edited by - willus3 on 10/31/2007 16:19:00 |
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Beans15
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Posted - 10/31/2007 : 17:04:21
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Originally posted by willus3
50's - Ted Lindsay - LW
60's - Howe - RW
70's - Orr -D
80's - Lemieux - C
90's - Bourque - D
00's - Brodeur - G
"I'm a man of principle... or not. Whatever the situation calls for." - Alan Shore
Surprise - No Doug Harvey??
No Surprise - Gretzky missing.
Solid team Willus.
Wayne or Bobby?? How about both!!! |
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willus3
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Posted - 10/31/2007 : 18:32:14
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Well Beans, I had to make sacrifices. I chose the second best LW of all time and a centre that is arguably as good as Gretzky. I couldn't get Hull because there was no way I was giving up Howe and Orr.
Lemieux and Bourque are interchangeable for 80's and 90's
That left Brodeur as an easy pick for 00's.
I wanted a left wing from the 80's so I could have Harvey for the 50's and then Lemieux for the 90's but there just isn't an 80's LW good enough. Historically LW has always been the weakest position.
"I'm a man of principle... or not. Whatever the situation calls for." - Alan Shore |
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Guest0843
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Posted - 10/31/2007 : 18:46:46
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Originally posted by andyhack
If you could only choose one player from each of the:
50s
60s
70s
80s
90s
2000s
Rocket Richard (W) 50s
Howe (W) 60s
Orr (D) 70s
Gretzky (C) 80s
Roy (G) 90s
Lidstrom (D) 00s
With the greatest of all time in the 60-90s in their respective positions, 'm left with a D and W in the 2000s and 50s. Couldn't think of a winger currently worthy of that list so had to put the only D that could be worthy in the 00s and the greatest winger in the 50s.
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andyhack
PickupHockey Pro
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Posted - 10/31/2007 : 20:29:11
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0843 - The Rocket was a right winger though so you have to choose between him or Howe for that position.
Interesting about left wingers isn't it Willus. Some not exactly household names on the list of all-stars from the 50s - Ed Sanford, Danny Lewicki, Real Chevrefils, Camille Henry...
Beans - I don't know exactly how they determine what position you qualify for when they are doing the All-stars, but Messier was considered a left-winger in the early 80s when it came time for the selections as you can see. So he can be a left winger for the 80s but I think should be considered a centre for the '90s given that he was selected as a first team Centre in 89/90 and 91/92.
If you absolutely had to say one position for Messier though, would you say centre? He obviously doesn't fit the pure left winger category the way guys like Bobby Hull or Steve Shutt do. Nor does he fit the pure centre category. Centre just seems a bit closer as an overall categorization to me though. But not being an Edmonton or Western Canadian guy, do tell me if that impression is wrong.
I suppose the fact that he could be shifted around is one of the reasons I rate him so highly though. |
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MSC
PickupHockey Pro
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Posted - 10/31/2007 : 21:07:04
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1st Team
50's - Harvey (D)
60's - Hull (W)
70's - Orr (D)
80's - Gretzky (C)
90's - Jagr (W)
00's - Brodeur (G)
2nd Team
50's - Sawchuck (G)
60's - Howe (W)
70's - Park (D)
80's - Messier (W)
90's - Lemieux (C)
00's - Lidstrom (D)
yeesh...that actually wasn't fun at all. I feel ashamed for leaving some people off. This was kind of like trying to pick between Jessica Alba and Jessica Biel. |
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andyhack
PickupHockey Pro
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Posted - 11/01/2007 : 22:14:44
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Man, this is hard! Whose crazy idea was this anyway?
Beans - you're going to scream, but I'm putting Messier on the left side as my rep for the 80s.
50s - Harvey - D
60s - Howe - RW
70s - Orr - D
80s - Messier - LW
90s - Roy - G
2000s - Crosby - C
Can I criticize the guy who started this thread? What a nut! I mean, what's the point of this? It's not that fun and it proves absolutely nothing!
Who is this Andyhack guy anyway?
Good night! |
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Guest4740
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Posted - 11/01/2007 : 22:50:38
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50 - Harvey (D)
60 - Bobby Hull (LW)
70 - Lafleur (RW)
80 - Gretzky (C)
90 - Roy (G)
00 - Bourque (D)**
** All star team of 2000-2001, but if you don't like that pick for the 00s, I will pick Lidstrom
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Guest4740
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Posted - 11/01/2007 : 23:04:04
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Second team
50s- Plante (G)
60s- orr (D)
70s- Mike Bussy (W)
80s- Messier (W)
90s- Lemieux (C)
00s- Niedermayer (D)
The weakness of this team is the difference in goaltending of today's hockey... Plante could not survive to a single period agains bussy, Messier, Lemieux and Niedermayer... |
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willus3
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Posted - 11/02/2007 : 08:10:50
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Originally posted by Guest4740
Second team
50s- Plante (G)
60s- orr (D)
70s- Mike Bussy (W)
80s- Messier (W)
90s- Lemieux (C)
00s- Niedermayer (D)
The weakness of this team is the difference in goaltending of today's hockey... Plante could not survive to a single period agains bussy, Messier, Lemieux and Niedermayer...
Two things.
Orr is on your second team???
Plante couldn't last 1 period today? 
"I'm a man of principle... or not. Whatever the situation calls for." - Alan Shore |
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Guest8023
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Posted - 11/02/2007 : 08:20:24
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1st team:
50's- Gordie Howe
60's - Bobby Hull
70's - Bobby Orr
80's - Wayne Gretzky
90's - Ray Bourqe
00's - Martin Brodeur
2nd team:
50's - Doug Harvey
60's - Frank Mahovolich
70's - Guy Lafleur
80's - Mario Lemieux
90's - Patrick Roy
00's - Nick Lidstrom
So hard to leave out Phil Esposito.... |
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Beans15
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Posted - 11/02/2007 : 08:28:05
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I gotta say something to Willus and Andy.
Guy, what are you thinking?? I though you might know me a little by now. You left Gretzky off your roster. Bad Move. I'm sending Bobby Hull out to break the ankle of both Howe and what ever centre you put in there instead of the Hockey God.
Big mistake. Now you have to play me 5 on 3.
Wayne or Bobby?? How about both!!! |
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willus3
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Posted - 11/02/2007 : 11:41:13
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Originally posted by Beans15
I gotta say something to Willus and Andy.
Guy, what are you thinking?? I though you might know me a little by now. You left Gretzky off your roster. Bad Move. I'm sending Bobby Hull out to break the ankle of both Howe and what ever centre you put in there instead of the Hockey God.
Big mistake. Now you have to play me 5 on 3.
Wayne or Bobby?? How about both!!!
Bobby Hull is a Lady Binger, he doesn't roll that way.
But even if he did break Howe's ankle, Howe would continue to play and then proceed to take each of your players out. Howe was all about retribution. He trumps every player on your team in the tough department.
"I'm a man of principle... or not. Whatever the situation calls for." - Alan Shore |
Edited by - willus3 on 11/02/2007 11:41:51 |
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Guest4195
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Posted - 11/02/2007 : 14:37:00
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50's - Maurice Richard (F)
60's - Gordie Howe (F)
70's - Bobby Orr (D)
80's - Patrick Roy (G)
90's - Wayne Gretzky (F)
00's - Niklas Lidstrom (D) |
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Greg Smith
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Posted - 11/02/2007 : 15:42:11
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50's: Maurice Richard (F)
60's: Gordia Howe (F)
70's Bobby Orr (D)
80's: ME I would love to play with them again. Paul Coffey works too though...
90's Patrick Roy
2000's: Sidney Crosby
Wow I just left out Gretzky and Lemieux
After playing in the NHL, it's hard to watch hockey games. |
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Guest4782
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Posted - 11/05/2007 : 18:28:27
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quote:
Originally posted by willus3
quote:
Originally posted by Guest4740
Second team
50s- Plante (G)
60s- orr (D)
70s- Mike Bussy (W)
80s- Messier (W)
90s- Lemieux (C)
00s- Niedermayer (D)
The weakness of this team is the difference in goaltending of today's hockey... Plante could not survive to a single period agains bussy, Messier, Lemieux and Niedermayer...
Two things.
Orr is on your second team???
Plante couldn't last 1 period today?
"I'm a man of principle... or not. Whatever the situation calls for." - Alan Shore
Yeah... It was a tough choice but with one player per decade restriction it hard to make a well balance team... I have to make tough choice lol.
When plante was between pipe :
1- Slap shot did not exist
2- equipement (skate and stick) was not developed as today: the game is faster now compare to the 50s...
With those reality, Gretsky, bourque and lafleur (player of my first team) would have score 4 goal each in the first period... |
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Alex
PickupHockey All-Star
Canada
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Posted - 12/02/2007 : 11:10:08
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quote:
Originally posted by andyhack
quote:
Originally posted by Beans15
50-Harvey(D)
60-Howe (W)
70-Orr (D)
80-Gretzky (C)
90-Messier (W)
00-Brodeur (G)
The only guy I would have really liked to put on the team is Lemieux, but then I would have to take out Gretzky or Messier. Tough choice.I still think I'm pretty tough to beat.
Nice thread Andy, your pretty cool for a Bruins fan!!
Ahhh, meant to add this - go generally by
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NHL_All-Star_Team
for how the players were considered at the time. Messier seems to have been considered a center in the 90s for example.
Oh, and thanks for the compliment Beans. But don't be too hard on other Bruins fans. We have been through a lot of tough times!
Lemieux over Messier any day. ANY day. Messier's number one attribute was that he was a leader. On a team of leader's, that's not so helpful as Super Mario.
Kipper for Lundqvist? |
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Devils Fanatic
Top Prospect
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Posted - 12/02/2007 : 11:25:46
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1st Team
50's Maurice Richard (F)
60's Gordie Howe (F)
70's Bobby Orr (D)
80's Gretzky (F)
90's Bourque (D)
00's Brodeur (G)
2nd Team
50's Sawchuk (G)
60's Bobby Hull (F)
70's Mike Bossy (F)
80's Paul Coffey (D)
90's Mario Lemieux (F)
00's Nicklas Lidstrom (D)
Martin Brodeur ~ 913 GP | 505 W | 273 L| 120 T| 2.21 GAA| 94 SO
2007-2008 ~ 22 GP | 11 W | 10 L | 1 OTL |2.31 GAA |.910 SV%|2 SO |
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One Player from Each Decade All-Star Line Up 
