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redwings85
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 Posted - 01/08/2008 : 06:12:53
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Currently it be the Toronto Maple Leafs who are the 'worse' team now.
Watching there games on TV have been rather boring, there's nothing to show for, they are sloppy, they are lazy, they have 1 strong period, then flop the rest of the game.
To improve, they really need to step up there game, driving the net, shooting the puck BETTER... not whenever you feel like shooting...
I've noticed not alot of GREAT Scoring chances... yet alot of shots...
sure yes when you shoot the puck it may go in... but look before you shoot... make sure it's going to be somewhat quality, and look for that rebound.
The defense really needs to improve. The Leafs do have a good team, they are just not working together on it.
Part of me thinks its the training staff in Toronto...
Someone needs to light that fire under there them and get them going again or else its going to be a long grooling season for the buds.
and this is coming from a avid Red Wings fan! |
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Guest4526
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Posted - 01/08/2008 : 16:15:22
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Originally posted by leafsfan_101
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Originally posted by Beans15
$7.8 million for a proven Stanley Cup leader who is a 1st line Centre on all but maybe 5 teams in the league is about right. And I can think of 10 teams off the top of my head that would give up a lot more than what you are suggesting for him. Toronto is one of them.
Wayne or Bobby?? How about both!!!
How many teams can afford a salary like Richards. Toronto can't. Edmonton can't. Not many teams in today's NHL are gunna trade for an unproducing guy worth 7.8 mil. It's not going to happen. St. Louis has the smallest contract outta the Big 3, and still, teams will come biting but I don't think that too manhy of te offers are guna please Feaster.
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Guest4526
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Posted - 01/08/2008 : 16:16:50
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| leafs fan 101 with rose coloured glasses who would toronto have to trade to get any of the tampa 3 realistically |
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leafsfan_101
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 01/10/2008 : 15:43:23
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Originally posted by Guest4526
leafs fan 101 with rose coloured glasses who would toronto have to trade to get any of the tampa 3 realistically
2 words...Mats Sundin. Tampa is gunna be picky with what they get in return for any of the Big 3. Plus, Sundin's contract is more affordable then that of a Richards or Lecavalier.
Tampa will have a hard time dealing Richards and St. Louis simply because whatever team gets one of the two are locked in long term. Lecavalier will be a hot commmodity next year, mark my words. By the time trade deadline 09 rolls around you can expect that whatever deal Sundin gets this year will definatly be much higher for Lecavalier. |
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Alex
PickupHockey All-Star
Canada
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Posted - 01/10/2008 : 15:45:44
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They do not need Sundin . Anyone who would trade the like of Lecavalier, Marty, or Brad for Sundin, would be making a push for the cup. Tampa is all about the future. Sundin on that team?
And by the way, Sundin would not waive a no trade clause to go on a worse team
Habs get number 25 this year |
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PuckNuts
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 01/10/2008 : 15:55:41
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Why on earth, or any other part of the solar system would Sundin want to waive his NTC to go to another losing team???
If Sundin waives his NTC he is going to a contender, and no where else, not a team below Toronto in the standings...
There are many teams out there that would be glad to have any of the three Tampa players on their team, it is a matter of what you are willing to give up, and what Tampa would accept.
Richards, and St. Louis have NTC's, and Lecavalier is their franchise player, I have a hard time believing that any of the three are moving, but sooner or later Feaster is going to need the cap space to sign any of the 14 UFA's next season...
Of coarse you know that this means war!
- - Bugs Bunny
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Alex
PickupHockey All-Star
Canada
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Posted - 01/10/2008 : 16:27:15
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I think this sheds light on a new issue. Tampa can not afford to hold their team. And they did not BUY their team.
This is the only fault of the salary cap. Damned you do, damned you don't. Tampa was a bad team, they drafted good players. Finally the drafts materialize, and now, oh look, they can't afford them!
Obviously the salary cap was for the owners, not in the interest of the game. But this is just ridiculous. You want to tell me teams like Tampa are going to earn more money out of this salary cap, staying in last and getting less and less fans? I doubt it.
Habs get number 25 this year |
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hockster
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 01/10/2008 : 16:27:43
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I dont think Sundin would go to someone he thinks wont win the cup
I am pretty sure he wants to either win one or stay where he is
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Antroman
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 01/10/2008 : 17:17:27
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| Matts Sundin has stated emphatically that he does not want to go anywhere for any reason. He said it just the day before yesterday when he was beseiged by reporters on the left coast. I have never known him since he has been in Toronto to say or do anything that was not sincere. However, the Leafs are going to have to pay him large in order to buy out the no trade clause in his contract. Remember, he took less money this year in order to help with the Toronto salary cap so the thought entered my mind that he is publicly taking this stand in order to further his cause regarding the pay-out? I rather doubt this is true but I have to admit this possibility exists. I truely believe he only signed the one year no trade deal because he wanted to get through this year and then decide if he wanted to retire. I do not for one minute believe that he thought the season was going to go this badly. |
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hockster
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Canada
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Posted - 01/10/2008 : 17:22:23
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i bet he would like to go to a contender.....
Ya he wanted to help the leafs organization
but i think he knows that his time with the leafs could quite possibly end soon.
He wants to win a cup......you can tell because he would take less money for the leafs to have more depth.
He Will Go To a Contender if a trade comes up! |
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Alex
PickupHockey All-Star
Canada
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Posted - 01/10/2008 : 18:36:36
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Whatever the case, the TSN hockey panel is very in to it. Maybe because that is all the city cares about. Maybe they have no better stories so they make one up. But it was on AGAIN today. And its not only them. I have a gut feeling that Sundin might want a little break
Habs get number 25 this year |
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leafsfan_101
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Canada
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Posted - 01/16/2008 : 15:31:15
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| If the Leafs ask Sundin to waive his no-trade clause to go to a contender, Sundin will sa yes. No doubt. He says in the media that he doesn't want to leave, but what kind of player and captain would he be if he said he wuld be okay with moving. If the Leafs approach him with a deal in place with another team Sundin will say yes. |
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Antroman
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 01/16/2008 : 20:35:53
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| Do you think it will matter to which team? I personally hope that he goes west. It would be troubling to see him with an Eastern team and largely playing against the Leafs. My hope would be Anaheim or Calgary. It would bother me to see him with the team that has the dead bird wing on their chests. I am not sure if the Western guys realize what a great captain Matts has been while here in Toronto. He gets my vote for the best of all time although I was too young to appreciate Teeder Kennedy. I have never heard a solitary negative remark about him from any of the players or media guys that cover the leafs. He is forthright, honest, great with the media and press and praises the city and works for local charities and is a well respected gentleman around town. He also holds most of the Leafs all-time scoring records and is a shoo in for the Hall Of Fame. Oh, and he is one of the freest autograph signers ever. I am going to be sorry to see him go and so will a lot of others. My only hope is that he goes as a rental player and if he doesn't retire, returns to the Maples next season. I am starting to realize how a lot of Edmonton fans felt when they lost Smitty last year!!!!!! |
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Guest6563
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Posted - 01/16/2008 : 21:55:28
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| Do the Leafs' front office staff or Kings' coaching staff count as "teams"? |
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Guest5004
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Posted - 01/17/2008 : 15:26:24
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| I hate Toronoto, their team sucks every year, but as soon as they go on a 3 game winning streak, Torontonians are immediately talking about a cup! What a joke. Moreso, I cannot stand that they are on tv every Saturday night getting their asses kicked, with their built in cheerleading squad of Neale, Cole, Cherry and McLean. Announcers are supposed to be unbiasesd, but these clowns might as well be wearing Leafs jerseys and holding the big foam fingers. I think Cole and Neale are usually too drunk to call the game properly, get some new announcers CBC, people outside of Toronto dont't care about the Leafs |
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Antroman
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Canada
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Posted - 01/17/2008 : 22:06:39
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| I am starting to get tired of these arguements about hating the Leafs. Guest 5004 the truth of the matter is there are people outside of Toronto that care very much about the Leafs. What would be your first clue is that almost everywhere they play there is a large contingent of Leaf fans in the stands. For instance, during tonights game in Boston the "Go Leafs Go" chant was so loud the Beantowners had to break into their "USA" chant in order to drown them out. Now why is that? How about the LA game last week or the San Jose game? Who were all those people dressed in Leaf paraphenalia about as far as one could go from Toronto without falling in the ocean? I think you are so wrapped up in your own feelings that you paint all others who don't reside in the Toronto area with the same brush. I am sick and bored of this topic so 5004 either wake up or take your rants elsewhere. For the record, Harry Neale is now a color guy for the Buffalo Sabres and Bob Cole is an abstainer from alcohol. Did E.T. pick you up hitch-hicking somewhere along the Milky Way or something? |
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Beans15
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Canada
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Posted - 01/18/2008 : 08:16:47
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Originally posted by Antroman
I am starting to get tired of these arguements about hating the Leafs. Guest 5004 the truth of the matter is there are people outside of Toronto that care very much about the Leafs. What would be your first clue is that almost everywhere they play there is a large contingent of Leaf fans in the stands. For instance, during tonights game in Boston the "Go Leafs Go" chant was so loud the Beantowners had to break into their "USA" chant in order to drown them out. Now why is that? How about the LA game last week or the San Jose game? Who were all those people dressed in Leaf paraphenalia about as far as one could go from Toronto without falling in the ocean? I think you are so wrapped up in your own feelings that you paint all others who don't reside in the Toronto area with the same brush. I am sick and bored of this topic so 5004 either wake up or take your rants elsewhere. For the record, Harry Neale is now a color guy for the Buffalo Sabres and Bob Cole is an abstainer from alcohol. Did E.T. pick you up hitch-hicking somewhere along the Milky Way or something?
I could agree with this maybe 10 or more years ago. Today, in Edmonton specifically, there are very few Leafs fans. Sure, you see jerseys in the stands when and if the Leafs are in town, but you see that at every game. Calgary, Vancouver, Colorado, all have huge groups in Rexall when they are in town. Definately more than the Leafs.
I think the days of your Daddy's NHL are over, where you either cheered for the Leafs or the Habs. Today, Leaf fans are the minority in every place except TO. In Edmonton, if a poll was done of all hockey fan, I would bet my life that Leafs fans make up around 5% of the Edmonton Hockey Fan.
Wayne or Bobby?? How about both!!! |
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Alex
PickupHockey All-Star
Canada
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Posted - 01/18/2008 : 11:56:24
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Beans do not bet your life.
And speaking from experience, you can not imagine how many fans from T.O. migrate south to the weak hockey markets to pick up cheap tickets and get seats. Habs too.
The headline in the Florida Sun Sentinel went something like 'Who's rink is it, anyways?' the day of the Florida Montreal game. More than 50 percent of the fans came from Montreal.
Habs get number 25 this year |
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Leafsfan_94
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 01/18/2008 : 19:13:28
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CAPS
>>>Go Leafs Go<<<
Wings 4 Da Cup
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Guest5012
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Posted - 01/20/2008 : 02:57:16
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| oh well, enjoy the leafs in the cellar for another year, not likely to change any time soon |
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Antroman
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Canada
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Posted - 01/20/2008 : 20:19:53
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| I am trying to get them in the cellar but they keep winning lately and screwing things up. You people out west have your own teams out there to cheer for. I wouln't expect a large contigent of Leafs fans out there but weather you want to turn a blind eye or not, I can assure you there are still a healthy crop of Leaf lovers everywhere in this country. They quite simply represent what is good and traditional in this country and skate with the symbol of our country, the Maple Leaf on their jerseys and not some self serving oil well or something. I believe that there must still be a fair amount of Leaf fans still out there otherwise you people wouldn't be belly aching about them so much. Come to think of it, I spent a summer out west on the farm and as I recall all they did was crab about everything under the sun, so I shouldn't be too surprised about all this anti leaf nonsense that keeps coming from out there. I can't wait until all the vehicles finish converting to alternate forms of energy and you revert back to dust bowl ghost towns just like in the past. A dollar ten a litre? You won't be able to give the stuff away!!!! There wouldn't be a hockey team left out there but if there were I suppose the "Edmonton Locusts" might be a good name. |
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Guest4912
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Posted - 01/21/2008 : 08:29:48
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| I dont get leafsfan 94's signature, go leafs go and then it says wings for teh cup, you make no sense and frankly should start cheering for the wings for real |
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Leafsfan_94
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Canada
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Posted - 01/21/2008 : 13:24:50
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becuz i no the leafs arnt gunnawin the cup but there my favourite team, and ikno the insgs will most likely win the cup and there my 2nd favurite team
>>>Go Leafs Go<<<
Wings 4 Da Cup
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Datsyuk 1
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Canada
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Posted - 03/04/2008 : 23:35:34
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Toronto isn't going anywhere. No offense to leaf lovers although they have a bunch of overpaid lazy players who don't want to do anything. Thats coming from a nucks fan.
Good defense is good offense! |
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