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nashvillepreds
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Canada
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Posted - 02/19/2008 :  16:49:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Poll Question:
I'm taking a poll of opinions here because I wanna see the results. Do you think that a division leading team, like Carolina should be up there in the top three along side Ottawa, Montreal and New Jersey?

Well, here's the question if it hasn't been clear enough, basically, if the playoffs were right now, with Montreal, Ottawa, Pittsburgh, New Jersey and Philadelphia ahead of them, should Carolina be the third playoff seed?

Ellis or Mason?

Go Preds Go!

Choices:

No they should''''nt, they haven''''t earned the right to be one of the top teams
Yes they should, they are one of the division leaders and have to be rewarded for that
They should''''nt go below the 4th spot


Edited by - nashvillepreds on 02/19/2008 16:50:30

Alex
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Canada
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Posted - 02/19/2008 :  19:31:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think it is one of Bettman's strategies to make sure every geographic region has someone to root for come April, and keeps the interest of the American market longer.

Habs get number 25 this year
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Antroman
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Canada
537 Posts

Posted - 02/19/2008 :  20:40:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It is a fact Americans gravitate toward close rivalries in sports. An example would be cross town or cross state rivalries. They have been known to get hate-ons for each other and this translates into interest and ticket sales of course. Bettman doesn't miss a thing does he?
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PuckNuts
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Canada
2414 Posts

Posted - 02/20/2008 :  06:24:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here are some previous discussions about the topic.
http://www.pickuphockey.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3397
http://www.pickuphockey.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2754

My ideas...

As suggested earlier a balanced schedule where every team plays each other.

8 divisional games >>> 32 <<< 4 home and 4 away
2 conference games > 20 <<< home and home
2 opp. conf. games >> 30 <<< home and home
Total >>>>>>>>>>>>> 82 <<<<

Then two changes...

1.) The Division winners just make the playoffs no matter what their record is (not top three as it is now).

2.) Add the new "NHL crossover" rule. Any team in the opposite Conference that has more points takes the place of the worst team in the other Conference, and is reseeded point wise in that Conference.

Below you see the 2006-07 standings, and then the new standings with the new rules applied.


2006-07 Standings
PTS	RK	Eastern Conference
113	1	p - BUFFALO*
107	2	y - NEW JERSEY*
97	3	y - ATLANTA*
105	4	x - OTTAWA
105	5	x - PITTSBURGH
94	6	x - NY RANGERS
93	7	x - TAMPA BAY
92	8	x - NY ISLANDERS
91	9	TORONTO
90	10	MONTREAL
88	11	CAROLINA
86	12	FLORIDA
76	13	BOSTON
70	14	WASHINGTON
56	15	PHILADELPHIA
PTS	RK	Western Conference
113	1	z - DETROIT*
110	2	y - ANAHEIM*
105	3	y - VANCOUVER*
110	4	x - NASHVILLE
107	5	x - SAN JOSE
107	6	x - DALLAS
104	7	x - MINNESOTA
96	8	x - CALGARY
95	9	COLORADO
81	10	ST LOUIS
73	11	COLUMBUS
71	12	EDMONTON
71	13	CHICAGO
68	14	LOS ANGELES
67	15	PHOENIX

2006-07 Standings New Rules		
PTS	RK	Eastern Conference
113	1	p - BUFFALO*
107	2	y - NEW JERSEY*
105	3	x - OTTAWA
105	4	x - PITTSBURGH
97	5	y - ATLANTA*
95	6	xxx - COLORADO
94	7	x - NY RANGERS
93	8	x - TAMPA BAY
92	9	NY ISLANDERS
91	10	TORONTO
90	11	MONTREAL
88	12	CAROLINA
86	13	FLORIDA
76	14	BOSTON
70	15	WASHINGTON
56	16	PHILADELPHIA
PTS	RK	Western Conference
113	1	z - DETROIT*
110	2	y - ANAHEIM*
110	4	x - NASHVILLE
107	5	x - SAN JOSE
107	6	x - DALLAS
105	3	y - VANCOUVER*
104	7	x - MINNESOTA
96	8	x - CALGARY
81	10	ST LOUIS
73	11	COLUMBUS
71	12	EDMONTON
71	13	CHICAGO
68	14	LOS ANGELES
67	15	PHOENIX


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ThorntonisTHEMAN
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Posted - 02/20/2008 :  07:18:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
PuckNuts, that is absolutely brilliant! I would love the whole Crossover thing! I really wish you would take over for Bettman!

"I'm not dumb enough to be a goalie."
Brett Hull.
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rross
Top Prospect



Canada
58 Posts

Posted - 02/20/2008 :  10:06:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That is a good idea. It makes perfect sense and is the best way to decide who makes the playoffs. Now send this idea to Bettman.

Go Habs Go!!
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Pasty7
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Canada
2312 Posts

Posted - 02/20/2008 :  10:25:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i like but bettman is trying to make it like baseball,,,, american league and national league for those of you who don't watch baseball,,, the "conferences" are really two seperate leagues teams like ay the red soxs and the chi cubs havn't played each other since 67 there is 2 weeks of inter-league where the each teams plays two teams from the opposite league,,,, i like the crossover idea ,,,, i would also like the idea of seeing all the teams in the nhl more often,,, i would love to see L.A play here in montreal....

Pasty
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tbar
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Canada
376 Posts

Posted - 02/20/2008 :  12:42:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I said this last time this was posted and ill say it again unless every team play every team the cross over is not fair. If every team plays every team an equal amount of times you may as well go with a 1-16 bracket.

Lets say you finish 8th in the West and you get bumped from somebody in the East your going to be pissed because you had to play against tougher teams all year long. Detroit, Anaheim, and so on it’s just not a level playing field that way.

In the MLB your 2 weeks of AL vs. NL doesn’t make much difference you play within your Div. so much those few games in that 2 week stretch wont impact the standings to much.
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Pasty7
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Canada
2312 Posts

Posted - 02/20/2008 :  13:49:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by tbar

I said this last time this was posted and ill say it again unless every team play every team the cross over is not fair. If every team plays every team an equal amount of times you may as well go with a 1-16 bracket.

Lets say you finish 8th in the West and you get bumped from somebody in the East your going to be pissed because you had to play against tougher teams all year long. Detroit, Anaheim, and so on it’s just not a level playing field that way.

In the MLB your 2 weeks of AL vs. NL doesn’t make much difference you play within your Div. so much those few games in that 2 week stretch wont impact the standings to much.




then just shooting this out there why not copy cat the m playoff brackette have only the division leader s make the playoffs and add in a wild card for the best second place team'>? not saying i'd prefer this but it would be interesting!

Pasty
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tbar
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Canada
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Posted - 02/20/2008 :  13:51:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It would make things interesting and also alot tougher to win the cup because you have to be good all year long not just at the right time.
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