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Beans15
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 Posted - 06/01/2009 : 15:04:09
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Hanley, I guess you missed the last part in brackets. Or do you want my ocean front apartment in Edmonton. I sell it to you super cheap too!
Toskala is easily one of the few bright spots on that entire roster. Honestly, I hope he gets traded, bought out, something. That way, it will be just another lesson to the "Leaf Nation." Something like Paul Maurice was. Eventually, all the scapegoats disappear and you have no other option but to realize that the team is just weak. |
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Guest4098
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Posted - 06/01/2009 : 18:37:02
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Originally posted by Beans15
Hanley, I guess you missed the last part in brackets. Or do you want my ocean front apartment in Edmonton. I sell it to you super cheap too!
Toskala is easily one of the few bright spots on that entire roster. Honestly, I hope he gets traded, bought out, something. That way, it will be just another lesson to the "Leaf Nation." Something like Paul Maurice was. Eventually, all the scapegoats disappear and you have no other option but to realize that the team is just weak.
TOSKALA HAD THE WORST save percentage in league including backups |
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Guest9235
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Posted - 06/01/2009 : 22:06:38
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Originally posted by Seventy7Fifty2
Under-rated:
Thomas
Elliott
Boucher
Over-rated (as a team's #1):
Toskala
Toskala
Toskala (tied for 3rd)
Osgood (tied for 3rd)
How is Osgood overated. He steps up his game when it is more important, like he has during these playoffs
As for underrated goalies, Anderson, Bryzgalov, and Roloson. Roloson is a bit biased but people keep sayin he is too old and is crap or whatever. If it wasnt for him the Oilers were done |
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Guest9235
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Posted - 06/01/2009 : 22:10:32
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Originally posted by hanley6
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Originally posted by JOSHUACANADA
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Originally posted by Matt_Roberts85
Well, Luongo has never won anything of consequence, maybe its a function of bad luck, but people talk about him being the best goalie in the world and he's never got past the second round of the playoffs... regular season success is nice and all, but if you want to TRULY be the best, you have to prove it when it counts the most.
Thats why I have Turco on there as well.
Carey Price is just young, I think he will turn out to be a very good goalie, but "Jesus Price" he is not.
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E".
Wow this might be the most backwards statement I've ever heard. "Turco underated, Loungo cant win when it counts". Turco has a cup as a backup and has always been surounded by a top notch defensive team. He cant win in a clutch situation to save his life.
Loungo is the goalie who gets the first call for international play and has only been in the playoff for 4 rounds of hockey in 2 years. Vancouver is not that good of a team, much like Montreal they are mostly overhyped. You think Loungo is overated, if he played for T.O in there current state in 2008-09 Toronto might have made the playoffs.
i agree with you on that.. if Luongo played for the Leafs this past season the Leafs without a doubt would have made the playoffs.. The main thing Toronto is lacking on is Goaltending, Toskala doesn't cut it he's not good enough to be a number 1 goalie for any team, he's nothing more than a backup. All Toronto needs is a good goalie and they will be a Playoff contending team. There D is solid, it wouldn't hurt to have a key franchise point getter possibly Tavares. But the main thing Toronto needs is a good goalie
Toronto has a fine goalie in Toskala. Just cause he plays like crap in T.O doesnt mean hes crap, he just cant carry a team that bad. And also, Gerber is not and will never be a #1 goalie. He has been given the reins twice and in Carolina choked in the playoffs and in Ottawa just plain sucked. If Ottawa didnt want him, why do you think he is such a fantastic goalie? |
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Matt_Roberts85
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Posted - 06/03/2009 : 08:17:09
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Beans, I also think Toskala can be a good goalie, but he really did have the WORST save percentage of any starting goalie and was even behind almost every backup. He was brutal last year...
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E". |
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Rambo2305
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Canada
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Posted - 06/03/2009 : 08:35:58
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Originally posted by Matt_Roberts85
Beans, I also think Toskala can be a good goalie, but he really did have the WORST save percentage of any starting goalie and was even behind almost every backup. He was brutal last year...
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E".
Lest we forget...he played injured last year...
"Most people spend time and energy going around problems, rather than trying to solve them" - Henry Ford |
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JOSHUACANADA
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Posted - 06/03/2009 : 09:55:32
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Originally posted by Rambo2305
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Originally posted by Matt_Roberts85
Beans, I also think Toskala can be a good goalie, but he really did have the WORST save percentage of any starting goalie and was even behind almost every backup. He was brutal last year...
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E".
Lest we forget...he played injured last year...
"Most people spend time and energy going around problems, rather than trying to solve them" - Henry Ford
Although I love talking about crappy TO goalies in the post season, is this post not about underated goalies |
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Rambo2305
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Posted - 06/03/2009 : 11:34:20
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Originally posted by JOSHUACANADA
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Originally posted by Rambo2305
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Originally posted by Matt_Roberts85
Beans, I also think Toskala can be a good goalie, but he really did have the WORST save percentage of any starting goalie and was even behind almost every backup. He was brutal last year...
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E".
Lest we forget...he played injured last year...
"Most people spend time and energy going around problems, rather than trying to solve them" - Henry Ford
Although I love talking about crappy TO goalies in the post season, is this post not about underated goalies
Pretty sure Toskala's better then any of the Sens goalies (Elliott, Auld or Leclaire)
"Most people spend time and energy going around problems, rather than trying to solve them" - Henry Ford |
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JOSHUACANADA
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Posted - 06/03/2009 : 11:53:26
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Originally posted by Rambo2305
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Originally posted by JOSHUACANADA
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Originally posted by Rambo2305
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Originally posted by Matt_Roberts85
Beans, I also think Toskala can be a good goalie, but he really did have the WORST save percentage of any starting goalie and was even behind almost every backup. He was brutal last year...
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E".
Lest we forget...he played injured last year...
"Most people spend time and energy going around problems, rather than trying to solve them" - Henry Ford
Although I love talking about crappy TO goalies in the post season, is this post not about underated goalies
Pretty sure Toskala's better then any of the Sens goalies (Elliott, Auld or Leclaire)
"Most people spend time and energy going around problems, rather than trying to solve them" - Henry Ford
Fine keep riding that dead horse then. At least my team has there goalie problems fixed. All they gotta do is figure which two to ride and which one to trade. Toskala is a good goalie not a great goalie and Pogge is a not able to play with the big boy's. No other goalie's have signed. If you are not a fan of this team you already know this. Toskala has a lot to prove this year to get non TO fans back in the believer column. |
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Rambo2305
PickupHockey Pro
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Posted - 06/03/2009 : 12:01:16
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I will at least agree with you on the point of...
Pogge should be traded while he's worth something, what? I have no clue. He's not the goalie "of the future"....
"Most people spend time and energy going around problems, rather than trying to solve them" - Henry Ford |
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Matt_Roberts85
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Canada
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Posted - 06/03/2009 : 12:21:02
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Ottawa has their goaltending problem fixed? PUH-lease.
Leclaire has been hurt for a year and hasnt played, who knows what he'll look like in training camp and Auld and Elliot are backup goalies. Good luck with that.
Sens fans had better pray that Leclaire starts the year off looking like the goalie that played so well in 07-08, not the cripple from 08-09.
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E". |
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JOSHUACANADA
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Posted - 06/03/2009 : 12:44:39
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Originally posted by Matt_Roberts85
Ottawa has their goaltending problem fixed? PUH-lease.
Leclaire has been hurt for a year and hasnt played, who knows what he'll look like in training camp and Auld and Elliot are backup goalies. Good luck with that.
Sens fans had better pray that Leclaire starts the year off looking like the goalie that played so well in 07-08, not the cripple from 08-09.
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E".
Whats so wrong with Auld and Elliot if Leclair cant regain form post ankle injury. At least they dont take up cap space and there save % are good not great. This team is really built on a score 1st score often type mentality.
Elliot did prove last year he is a starting goalie. Last year he get called up a goes 16-8-3 with a team which was having a hard time finding anything positive. |
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Matt_Roberts85
PickupHockey Pro
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Posted - 06/03/2009 : 13:52:40
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ok, its decent I guess... but its not a guaranteed solution to the goalie situation in ottawa (which has plagued them since the beginning of time). Will Brian (not billy...) Elliot get the sens to the playoffs and carry them deep? If not, than the goaltending situation is not resolved. If you think Alex Auld will do that than your really rolling the dice....
Leclaire is the sens real shot at having a bonifide goalie. I hope for the leafs sake he falls right on his face, but I think he should do ok if his injury problems are behind him.
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E". |
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Guest9838
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Posted - 06/03/2009 : 14:09:50
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Leclaire could really be a hidden gem. His career numbers (2.82GAA, .907%) in Clb weren't that bad considering how brutal Clb was for pretty much every year until this year.
If he goes back to his 07-08 form (2.25GAA, .919%, 9SO in 54 games) I'd say they have a great shot to get back in the playoffs. I think it was a pretty fair gamble for what they gave up.
Leclaire's injury induced numbers from last year though are about as bad as Toskala's though, so it could be a flip of a coin between the two. |
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hanley6
PickupHockey Pro
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Posted - 06/04/2009 : 10:45:01
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Originally posted by Rambo2305
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Originally posted by JOSHUACANADA
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Originally posted by Rambo2305
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Originally posted by Matt_Roberts85
Beans, I also think Toskala can be a good goalie, but he really did have the WORST save percentage of any starting goalie and was even behind almost every backup. He was brutal last year...
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E".
Lest we forget...he played injured last year...
"Most people spend time and energy going around problems, rather than trying to solve them" - Henry Ford
Although I love talking about crappy TO goalies in the post season, is this post not about underated goalies
Pretty sure Toskala's better then any of the Sens goalies (Elliott, Auld or Leclaire)
"Most people spend time and energy going around problems, rather than trying to solve them" - Henry Ford
there is no way Toskala's better than Elliott or Leclaire. Auld and Toskala are about even can't handle number 1 duties, nothing more than a backup |
Edited by - hanley6 on 06/04/2009 10:51:53 |
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Guest2695
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Posted - 06/04/2009 : 11:33:05
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for me its Osgood, Mason, and Bryzgalov who are the most underrated.
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Rambo2305
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Posted - 06/04/2009 : 11:34:26
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Originally posted by Guest2695
for me its Osgood, Mason, and Bryzgalov who are the most underrated.
Steve Mason, or Chris Mason? lol
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JOSHUACANADA
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Posted - 06/04/2009 : 13:24:06
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| Chris is the only one of the 2 to be underated. I think everyone here has seen enough of Steve Mason not to underate this kid. For thoughs of you that dont remember Chris Mason is the Guy who unseated Vokoun in Nashville for the #1 got unseated by Ellis and wound up the number #1 in St Louis during their incredible run to the post season. |
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Guest6752
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Posted - 06/05/2009 : 17:23:46
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[quote]Originally posted by hanley6
who would you say are the 3 most underrated goalies in the NHL today?
Biron, Halak, Bryzgalov
These are perceptive choices...hard to disagree.... |
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rross
Top Prospect
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Posted - 06/07/2009 : 06:19:28
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Scott Clemmenson
Craig Anderson
Chris Mason
Chris Osgood
Clemmenson held the for in Jersey while Brodeur was injured. Anderson led a weak Panther team to the verge of a playoff berth
And Mason was incredible down the stretch to boost the blues from the basement to a 6th place finish in the western conference.
Osgood should be self explanatory.
Go Habs Go!! |
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Guest7574
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Posted - 06/08/2009 : 10:19:54
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| C. Mason, Rinne, and Ward |
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hanley6
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Canada
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Posted - 06/09/2009 : 20:22:32
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Originally posted by Beans15
Hanley, I guess you missed the last part in brackets. Or do you want my ocean front apartment in Edmonton. I sell it to you super cheap too!
Toskala is easily one of the few bright spots on that entire roster. Honestly, I hope he gets traded, bought out, something. That way, it will be just another lesson to the "Leaf Nation." Something like Paul Maurice was. Eventually, all the scapegoats disappear and you have no other option but to realize that the team is just weak.
buddy, I can't wait till Toskala is gone then Toronto can finally have a decent netminder, someone that can actually stop the puck... And i was happy when they got rid of Paul Maurice he was a horrible coach in Toronto... Wilson did a great job with the Leafs this past season. |
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hanley6
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Posted - 06/09/2009 : 20:26:38
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Originally posted by Rambo2305
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Originally posted by Matt_Roberts85
Beans, I also think Toskala can be a good goalie, but he really did have the WORST save percentage of any starting goalie and was even behind almost every backup. He was brutal last year...
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E".
Lest we forget...he played injured last year...
"Most people spend time and energy going around problems, rather than trying to solve them" - Henry Ford
excuses excuses, his MRIs turned out fine.. He said he was injured to cover his ass, and Toronto went along with it.. Although Burke and Wilson were not impressed and I don't blame them |
Edited by - hanley6 on 06/09/2009 20:26:59 |
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3 most underrated goalies in the NHL today 
