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Rambo2305
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
546 Posts |
 Posted - 06/02/2009 : 05:23:21
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Ok, so the Playoffs are just about over, after the Pens comeback :P lol...
So, with July 1st fastly approaching, I don't care who you are, or what team your cheer for....play GM for a minute and announce your Opening Day roster for your team, next season...
Line1: (Name),(Name),(Name)
Line2: (Name),(Name),(Name)
Line3: (Name),(Name),(Name)
Line4: (Name),(Name),(Name)
D1: (Name),(Name)
D2: (Name),(Name)
D3: (Name),(Name)
G: (Name)
Backup: (Name)
"Most people spend time and energy going around problems, rather than trying to solve them" - Henry Ford
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Rambo2305
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
546 Posts |
Posted - 06/02/2009 : 05:36:54
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Toronto Maple Leafs - 09/10 Roster....I wish...
Line1: Blake, Cammelleri, Duchene
Line2: Ponikarovsky, Grabovski, Hagman
Line3: Williams, Stajan, Tlusty
Line4: Mayers, Mitchell, Ondrus
D1: Kaberle, Bouwmeester
D2: Van Ryan, Kubina
D3: White, Schenn
G: Toskala
Joseph
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Gusteroni
Rookie
Canada
225 Posts |
Posted - 06/02/2009 : 12:10:43
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My 2009/2010 Toronto Maple Leafs roster:
Line1: Jason Blake, Mike Cammelleri, Niklas Hagman
Line2: Alexei Ponikarovsky, Mikhail Grabovski, Brayden Schenn
Line3: Christopher DiDomenico, Matt Stajan, Jeremy Williams
Line4: Christian Hanson, John Mitchell, Jamal Mayers
D1: Scott Niedermayer, Jay Bouwmeester
D2: Tomas Kaberle, Luke Schenn
D3: Ian White, Pavel Kubina
G: Vesa Toskala
Backup: Mathieu Garon
I may change this about 20 times if I really was a GM cause I'm still not really satisfied with my team. I'm going with youth and a re-build for the future. I still need to research if I am within the cap as well. It it hard being a GM.
"There are only two seasons in Canada...hockey season and not hockey season." |
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Rambo2305
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
546 Posts |
Posted - 06/02/2009 : 12:15:06
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Yea, with Neid's and Jay on D, your probably over the cap lol...I actually forgot all about DiDomenico, who knew the Leafs actually have prospects? lol
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MSC
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
601 Posts |
Posted - 06/02/2009 : 12:26:06
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Originally posted by Gusteroni
My 2009/2010 Toronto Maple Leafs roster:
Line1: Jason Blake, Mike Cammelleri, Niklas Hagman
Line2: Alexei Ponikarovsky, Mikhail Grabovski, Brayden Schenn
Line3: Christopher DiDomenico, Matt Stajan, Jeremy Williams
Line4: Christian Hanson, John Mitchell, Jamal Mayers
D1: Scott Niedermayer, Jay Bouwmeester
D2: Tomas Kaberle, Luke Schenn
D3: Ian White, Pavel Kubina
G: Vesa Toskala
Backup: Mathieu Garon
I may change this about 20 times if I really was a GM cause I'm still not really satisfied with my team. I'm going with youth and a re-build for the future. I still need to research if I am within the cap as well. It it hard being a GM.
"There are only two seasons in Canada...hockey season and not hockey season."
Where does Blake or Neids fit into your youth and rebuilding for the future plan? |
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Gusteroni
Rookie
Canada
225 Posts |
Posted - 06/02/2009 : 12:59:57
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Well I would only sign Neids to a one year discounted contract (he owes me a favor if I was Burke) to give Schenn and Bouwmeester some vet presence and they could job shadow from one of the best in the league. Schenn will be Captain one day but he needs a little leadership training first and who better than Neids to give that to him. Blake I can't trade cause I probably wouldn't get anything for him so he stays until his contract is finished. Blake does provide speed that the Leafs need so badly and his veteran leadership cannot hurt. Plus I want him for the shoot-outs so I can see that sweet spin o' rama again! I guess I have a little bit of a fantasy roster with a dose of reality.
"There are only two seasons in Canada...hockey season and not hockey season." |
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hockster
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
437 Posts |
Posted - 06/02/2009 : 13:20:06
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CALGARY FLAMES GM****Forwards, j-bo, neids roster all preferable... otehr two are more likely tho
STAND PAT ROSTER
Borque(1.35) Langkow (4.5) Iginla (7) 12.85
Bertuzzi (1.75) Jokinen (5.25) Boyd (.9) 7.9
Glencross (1.2) Conroy (1.05) Moss(1.3) 3.55
Nystrom (.688) Lundmark (.9) Peters (.6) 2.188
extra:Chucko (.8) two way
TOTAL: 27.2 mil
AHL Call Up's
1.Greentree
2.Backlund
3.Van Der Gulik
4.Nemisz
5.Sutter
6.Armstrong
Phaneuf (6.5) Giordano (1) 7.5
Regehr (4) Sarich (3.6) 7.6
Vandermeer (2.3) Pardy (.9) 3.2
Pelech(.85)0.85
TOTAL: 18.1
AHL Call Up's
1.Negrin
2.Aulie
3.Palin
4.Baldwin
Kipprusoff(5.8) 5.8
Conklin (1) 1
TOTAL: 6.8
TOTAL TEAM:53.1 million
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NIEDERMAYER'S ROSTER
Borque(1.35) Langkow (4.5) Iginla (7) 12.85
Bertuzzi (1.5) Jokinen (5.25) Boyd (.9) 7.65
Glencross (1.2) Conroy (1.05) Moss(1.3) 3.55
Nystrom (.688) R.Niedermayer (1) Peters (.6) 2.3
extra:Chucko (.8) two way
TOTAL: 27.15
AHL Call Up's
1.Greentree
2.Backlund
3.Van Der Gulik
4.Nemisz
5.Sutter
6.Armstrong
Phaneuf (6.5) S.Niedermayer (5) 11.5
Regehr (4) Sarich (3.6) 7.6
Pardy (.9) Giordano (1) 1.9
Pelech(.85)0.85
TOTAL: 21.85
AHL Call Up's
1.Negrin
2.Aulie
3.Palin
4.Baldwin
Kipprusoff(5.8) 5.8
Conklin (1)
TOTAL: 6.8 million
AHL Call Up's
1.Irving
2.Keetley
TOTAL TEAM: 55.8
TRADE VANDERMEER
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FORWARD ROSTER
Borque(1.35) Langkow (4.5) Iginla (7) 12.85
gionta(4.3) Jokinen (5.25) Boyd (.9) 10.45
Glencross (1.2) Conroy (1.05) Moss(1.3) 3.55
Nystrom (.688) Fiddler(1)Gelinas(.5) 2.1
TOTAL: 28.95
AHL Call Up's
1.Greentree
2.Backlund
3.Van Der Gulik
4.Nemisz
5.Sutter
6.Armstrong
Phaneuf (6.5) Giordano (1) 7.5
Regehr (4) Sarich (3.6) 7.6
Vandermeer (2.3) Pardy (.9) 3.2
Pelech(.85)0.85
TOTAL: 18.1
AHL Call Up's
1.Negrin
2.Aulie
3.Palin
4.Baldwin
Kipprusoff(5.8) 5.8
Conklin (1)
TOTAL: 6.8 million
AHL Call Up's
1.Irving
2.Keetley
TOTAL TEAM: 53.85
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ROOKIE ROSTER
Borque(1.35) Langkow (4.5) Iginla (7) 12.85
Backlund(.9) Jokinen (5.25) Boyd (.9) 7
Glencross (1.2) Conroy (1.05) Moss(1.3) 3.55
Nystrom (.688) Van Der Gulik(.8) Greentree(.9) 2.4
TOTAL: 25.8
AHL Call Up's
1.Nemisz
2.Sutter
3.Armstrong
Phaneuf (6.5) Giordano (1) 7.5
Regehr (4) Sarich (3.6) 7.6
Vandermeer (2.3) Pardy (.9) 3.2
Pelech(.85)0.85
TOTAL: 18.1
AHL Call Up's
1.Negrin
2.Aulie
3.Palin
4.Baldwin
Kipprusoff(5.8) 5.8
Irving(.7).7
TOTAL:6.5
TOTAL TEAM:50.4
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J-Bo Roster
Borque(1.35) Langkow (4.5) Iginla (7) 12.85
Bertuzzi (1.75) Jokinen (5.25) Boyd (.9) 7.9
Glencross (1.2) Conroy (1.05) Moss(1.3) 3.55
Nystrom (.688) Lundmark (.9) Peters (.6) 2.188
extra:Chucko (.8) two way
TOTAL: 27.2 mil
AHL Call Up's
1.Greentree
2.Backlund
3.Van Der Gulik
4.Nemisz
5.Sutter
6.Armstrong
Phaneuf (6.5) Sarich (3.6) 10.1
Regehr (4) Bouwmeester (5.75) 9.75
Giordano (1) Pardy (.9) 1.9
TOTAL: 21.75
AHL Call Up's
1.Negrin
2.Aulie
3.Palin
4.Baldwin
Kipprusoff(5.8) 5.8
Conklin (1)
TOTAL: 6.8 million
AHL Call Up's
1.Irving
2.Keetley
TOTAL TEAM: 55.75 million
TRADE VANDERMEER |
Edited by - hockster on 06/02/2009 13:26:31 |
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hockster
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
437 Posts |
Posted - 06/02/2009 : 13:28:59
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all mine are possible and have had some sort of rumours to back them but that reall ydoesnt mean much but all do equal the salary cap which is always good some have to take discounts but thats part off being a good GM
also the leafs can take cammy i loved hiim but only fo rless than 4 hes horrible on giveaways and iggy made hime what he is without him hes gonna be a max 33 goal guy
Iginla for 2010 team captain.
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Matt_Roberts85
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 06/02/2009 : 13:42:20
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Holy crap, that must have taken forever...
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E". |
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JOSHUACANADA
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
2308 Posts |
Posted - 06/02/2009 : 16:07:30
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Trade Alex Auld, Jason Smith and Alfredson to edmonton for Hemsky
and Penner. Ottawa dumps $ in exchange edmonton gets that veteran leadership in Alfie and Jason Smith back in the fold and a backup to Roli for cheap should Deslaurier fail. Ottawa gets to clear there leadership problems and gets offensive upside in Hemsky and Penner gets a new lease on life.
Hemsky, Spezza, Heatly
Donovan, Fisher, Penner
Neil, Comrie, Ruttu
Shannon, Bass, Schubert
Phillips, Kuba
Volchenkov, Campoli
Lee, Bell
Elliot and Leclair
extra forwards Chris Kelly, Jesse Winchester with Zubov and Hennessy gromming in the minors or call up.
Extra D-men Alexandre Picard with Schubert able to switch roles.
Goaltender Jeff Glass still working the minors. |
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hockster
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
437 Posts |
Posted - 06/02/2009 : 18:05:23
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Holy crap, that must have taken forever...
3 hr plane ride ;)
Iginla for 2010 team captain.
Flames for cup...eventually. |
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Guest8241
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Posted - 06/03/2009 : 05:37:23
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Line1: Gaborik, Sundin, Cammelleri
Line2: Duchene, Grabovski, Blake
Line3: Williams, Stajan, Hagman
Line4: Mayers, Mitchell, Ponikarovsky
D1: Kaberle, Bouwmeester
D2: Van Ryan, Kubina
D3: White, Schenn
G: Toskala
BU: Conklin
Burke wants to bring Sundin back!....I would too :D |
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Rambo2305
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
546 Posts |
Posted - 06/03/2009 : 05:38:09
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Hockster...that was a long read lol
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Posted - 06/03/2009 : 05:38:45
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Nice teams, guys! Love the work some of you put into these, they all look somewhat doable, although apparently every team in the league signs Bouwmeester over the summer, lol.
RAMBO - Probably very close to what Burke will have, with one exception: I see Pogge still getting a lot of chances at back-up, Joseph is probably in his last yearand will play less than him.
GUSTERONI - I don't see Nieds coming here, but that is a solid starting line-up, although as you point out, probably over the cap. And . . . Garon? Don't see it.
HOCKSTER - Long three hours, eh? I like the Trade Vandermeer roster best, Gionta would bring a whole new level of defensive responsibility for the second line, and it would arguably make Calagary's offence one of the most potent in the league.
JOSHUACANADA - Very nice team, even that trade with Edmonton sounds entirely plausible, good for both teams (although better for Ottawa probably). But one question, and excuse my ignorance: who is Elliot?
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug |
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Rambo2305
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
546 Posts |
Posted - 06/03/2009 : 05:40:07
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quote:
Originally posted by JOSHUACANADA
Trade Alex Auld, Jason Smith and Alfredson to edmonton for Hemsky
and Penner. Ottawa dumps $ in exchange edmonton gets that veteran leadership in Alfie and Jason Smith back in the fold and a backup to Roli for cheap should Deslaurier fail. Ottawa gets to clear there leadership problems and gets offensive upside in Hemsky and Penner gets a new lease on life.
Hemsky, Spezza, Heatly
Donovan, Fisher, Penner
Neil, Comrie, Ruttu
Shannon, Bass, Schubert
Phillips, Kuba
Volchenkov, Campoli
Lee, Bell
Elliot and Leclair
extra forwards Chris Kelly, Jesse Winchester with Zubov and Hennessy gromming in the minors or call up.
Extra D-men Alexandre Picard with Schubert able to switch roles.
Goaltender Jeff Glass still working the minors.
If you threw Penner on a line with Heatley and Spezza, you'd see his production go back to how it was in Anahiem...as much as I don't like Alfie, I honestly cannot imagine him in a jersey other then a Sens jersey...
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Guest8571
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Posted - 06/03/2009 : 09:55:18
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i personally think the gionta roster of hockster is the best brings you two lines of scoring, improves speed and defense, most of all you are 2-3 mil away from the cap allowing for trades and/or injuries
also i gota like how its all realistic as well. gionta could be second coming of cammy but better D. as for gelinas i would replace him with greentree for .8
FORWARD ROSTER
Borque(1.35) Langkow (4.5) Iginla (7) 12.85
gionta(4.3) Jokinen (5.25) Boyd (.9) 10.45
Glencross (1.2) Conroy (1.05) Moss(1.3) 3.55
Nystrom (.688) Fiddler(1)Greentree(.8) 2.4
Chucko (.75) .75
TOTAL: 29.15
AHL Call Up's
1.------
2.Backlund
3.Van Der Gulik
4.Nemisz
5.Sutter
6.Armstrong
Phaneuf (6.5) Giordano (1) 7.5
Regehr (4) Sarich (3.6) 7.6
Vandermeer (2.3) Pardy (.9) 3.2
Pelech(.85)0.85
TOTAL: 18.1
AHL Call Up's
1.Negrin
2.Aulie
3.Palin
4.Baldwin
Kipprusoff(5.8) 5.8
Conklin (1)
TOTAL: 6.8 million
AHL Call Up's
1.Irving
2.Keetley
TOTAL TEAM: 54.8 |
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JOSHUACANADA
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
2308 Posts |
Posted - 06/03/2009 : 10:11:22
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Originally posted by slozo
JOSHUACANADA - Very nice team, even that trade with Edmonton sounds entirely plausible, good for both teams (although better for Ottawa probably). But one question, and excuse my ignorance: who is Elliot?
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug
Billy Elliot was a call up from Binghimton last year. Played in 31 games and came outta nowhere to secure the starting job. Heres a link to his stats. http://www.nhl.com/ice/player.htm?id=8470880
I am surprized to see Ottawa deal for Leclair after Auld and Elliot closed out the season strong. This team will be a force this year with 3 goalie deep. All they gotta do is figure out the best trade bait for some 2nd line scoring. |
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MSC
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
601 Posts |
Posted - 06/03/2009 : 10:34:55
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quote:
Originally posted by JOSHUACANADA
quote:
Originally posted by slozo
JOSHUACANADA - Very nice team, even that trade with Edmonton sounds entirely plausible, good for both teams (although better for Ottawa probably). But one question, and excuse my ignorance: who is Elliot?
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug
Billy Elliot was a call up from Binghimton last year. Played in 31 games and came outta nowhere to secure the starting job. Heres a link to his stats. http://www.nhl.com/ice/player.htm?id=8470880
I am surprized to see Ottawa deal for Leclair after Auld and Elliot closed out the season strong. This team will be a force this year with 3 goalie deep. All they gotta do is figure out the best trade bait for some 2nd line scoring.
Even if a team had 3 all-star goaltenders on their roster only 1 of them can be on the ice at a time. I fail to see how having 2 average goalies and 1 above average goalie could possibly turn Ottawa around and into a "Force". |
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JOSHUACANADA
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Canada
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Posted - 06/03/2009 : 10:38:59
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| Reread the last line and I said pick one for trade bait to pick up secondary scoring. Plus I thought the last 30-35 games when they had the best record during that time, kinda proved that this team was showing some life. |
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MSC
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
601 Posts |
Posted - 06/03/2009 : 10:48:53
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Yes, let's look at what that last line said...
"This team will be a force this year with 3 goalie deep"
This tells me that you think that as long as Ottawa has those 3 goalies then they will be a force. Am I reading what you wrote wrong?
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"All they gotta do is figure out the best trade bait for some 2nd line scoring."
Try as I might I can't see where you wrote that you think they should find the best trade bait out of their goalies. All I can see is "figure out THE BEST TRADE bait".
Combining the two sections of your last line I can only come to one clear conclusion. Ottawa is better with 3 goalies and they need second line scoring. |
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MSC
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 06/03/2009 : 10:50:38
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quote:
Originally posted by JOSHUACANADA
Reread the last line and I said pick one for trade bait to pick up secondary scoring. Plus I thought the last 30-35 games when they had the best record during that time, kinda proved that this team was showing some life.
Let's see the link or stats that prove Ottawa had the best record over the last 30-35 games.
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JOSHUACANADA
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 06/03/2009 : 10:52:53
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quote:
Originally posted by MSC
Yes, let's look at what that last line said...
"This team will be a force this year with 3 goalie deep"
This tells me that you think that as long as Ottawa has those 3 goalies then they will be a force. Am I reading what you wrote wrong?
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"All they gotta do is figure out the best trade bait for some 2nd line scoring."
Try as I might I can't see where you wrote that you think they should find the best trade bait out of their goalies. All I can see is "figure out THE BEST TRADE bait".
Combining the two sections of your last line I can only come to one clear conclusion. Ottawa is better with 3 goalies and they need second line scoring.
Are you picking a fight here cause I thought I cleared that up with my last post. (Trade Bait a goalie for thoughs of us that are slow.)
And do you not agree that the last 30-35 games when they had the best record that this team was showing they were turning a corner here. (ie, should be a force) |
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MSC
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
601 Posts |
Posted - 06/03/2009 : 11:00:41
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Not picking a fight. You just told me to read what you wrote. I did, and I still didn't agree with it.
Now if you told me that you meant to say that they should trade one of the 3 goalies for 2nd line scoring then that's a different story and I would understand. The problem is you didn't say that.
and
As it stands no I don't agree that Ottawa had the best record over the last halfish of the season. Am I supposed to agree because you said so? |
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Rambo2305
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
546 Posts |
Posted - 06/03/2009 : 11:30:34
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JOSHUACANADA....all due respect, the Sens were not the best team in hockey through the last 30-35 games of the year. They played average hockey at best (last 15-20 games maybe), it just seemed stellar because of how badly they played for the first half of the year.
Also, Leclaire, Auld and Elliot? Elliot's been around for a couple years and is really streaky. Auld, hasn't proven he can be a #1 for an entire year. Same with Pascal. The only times Leclaire was solid is when the Jackets got eliminted from contention and he played as a backup for Canada. And lets face it, on any Canadian National team, just about any NHL goalie can look good...
Having 3 good backups does not make any team a "force".
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JOSHUACANADA
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
2308 Posts |
Posted - 06/03/2009 : 11:35:59
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K found a link for when Cory clouston got resigned http://senators.nhl.com/team/app?articleid=417273&page=NewsPage&service=page
record post hiring was 19-10-3 in 32 games. No reference to best record over that point in time. May find an predated article which states this. My point was this team has turned a corner and should be a force with some secondary scoring. |
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Rambo2305
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
546 Posts |
Posted - 06/03/2009 : 12:05:06
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quote:
Originally posted by JOSHUACANADA
K found a link for when Cory clouston got resigned http://senators.nhl.com/team/app?articleid=417273&page=NewsPage&service=page
record post hiring was 19-10-3 in 32 games. No reference to best record over that point in time. May find an predated article which states this. My point was this team has turned a corner and should be a force with some secondary scoring.
Please note...
In the last 42 games of the year, the Penguins were 30-8-4...
As for Ottawa, 19-10-3, good, but when all the teams around you are doing the same, can't really take too much pride on that. Also, for the players they have, they should have done alot better. Too bad tanking the season for 1st overall doesn't work...they should have learned their lesson with Daigle! LOL
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Matt_Roberts85
PickupHockey Pro
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Posted - 06/03/2009 : 12:17:48
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The St.Louis blues had the best record in the NHL in the second 41 games.
Ottawa played well once the pressure was off, and they killed another coach that they didnt like. I seriously question the character of the top guys in that dressing room. Alfie, Spezza and Heatley just seem fishy to me. If only they had of kept Hossa and Chara.
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E". |
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MSC
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
601 Posts |
Posted - 06/03/2009 : 12:19:08
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| Chara and Hossa have just as many cups as Heatley, Spezza and Alfredsson. |
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JOSHUACANADA
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
2308 Posts |
Posted - 06/03/2009 : 12:25:43
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Yah high draft picks really suck. Crosby, Lindros, Ovechkin, Fedorov, Malkin, Kane, Price. Real record of flops there. Granted there are as many abortions than births in the NHL draft, but still higher drafting # the better odd's.
Tanking for a high draft pick, who finished in 12th again was it TO or Ottawa. That group of superstar players that Ottawa had last year ends with Alfredson, Heatly and Spezza. As I've said before, 3 players cant win a cup or carry a team forever. Look at your team with Kaberle, Kubina and Blake or even when you added Mccabe, Antropov and Sundin. Couldn't take that team with all those superstars to Eastern conference final let alone the Stanely Cup final. |
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MSC
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
601 Posts |
Posted - 06/03/2009 : 12:33:20
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Did you just call Antropov, Blake, Kubina, Kaberle, and McCabe superstars?
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Rambo2305
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 06/03/2009 : 12:40:53
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quote:
Originally posted by MSC
Did you just call Antropov, Blake, Kubina, Kaberle, and McCabe superstars?
LOL....I'm a Leaf fan and I'll agree with that, Nik was no "franchise player"...Kaberle (when healthy) is the only "star" we have lol
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Guest9838
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Posted - 06/03/2009 : 12:47:57
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| Hey hey now... I always disliked McCabe and thought of him as a liability. But 3-4 years ago he was an alternate to the Canadian Olympic team and a 19 goal, 68 pt defenseman. If he actually had a defensive game he could've been a star. |
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MSC
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 06/03/2009 : 12:49:58
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| The fact is however he's not a star let alone a "Superstar". |
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Guest9838
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Posted - 06/03/2009 : 13:05:41
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Lol... no argument there. Just saying if the leafs veteran laden pre-strike teams had ever won a cup, he'd be thought of differently by all. Probably the "star" of the leafs 2-punch defence (with Kaberle).
In 03-04, McCabe was 2nd to Niedermayer in Norris voting, had 16 goals, 53 pts, +22 for the reg season, nhl 2nd all star team. Many thought of Kaberle and McCabe as one of the best duo's in the NHL (AT THAT TIME). This is probably very hard to remember through the stupid haircuts, the pucks in his own net and the tripping over his own net incidents. But his star did shine once if only for a little while... lol, I can't believe I'm defending this guy...
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JOSHUACANADA
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Posted - 06/03/2009 : 13:18:04
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Blake signed for 4.5 million
Kubina signed for 5 Million
Kaberle signed for 4.25 million
Mccabe signed for 6.15 million
Sound like star pay to me.
I do agree I wouldn't sign them for that much but I also enjoy watching a winning team so what do I know. |
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MSC
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Posted - 06/03/2009 : 13:32:41
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You're making my head hurt.
So what you're saying now is that if a player hires a good agent and can get himself an above market contract that automatically makes him a star? BECAUSE OF HOW MUCH HE MAKES?????
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Can't argue that McCabe had his time in the sun, lot's of promise for sure. In fact I'd still even take him on my team, but when it comes to today in the NHL he falls somewhere in between Suter and Carle in the Star Ratings category. |
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Guest8142
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Posted - 06/03/2009 : 13:39:57
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| Mike Fisher brings home 4 mil, does that make him a star? |
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MSC
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Posted - 06/03/2009 : 13:44:01
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| Well if I've learnt anything today, then yes. 4 Million effectively makes Fischer a raging star. |
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Matt_Roberts85
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Posted - 06/03/2009 : 13:46:46
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quote:
Originally posted by MSC
Chara and Hossa have just as many cups as Heatley, Spezza and Alfredsson.
Yea, but they actually play with heart. Ill give Alfie some credit, as he seems to play with heart most of the time, but Spezza and Heatley are dogs. Redden was a dog too.
The only time Heatley and Spezza seem to care, is when they have a maple leaf on their chest.
How can 2 guys who were the best 2 offensive players in the NHL at one point just totally wilt away. Coach after coach after coach in ottawa, because of those 2. Not saying, they are the only cause of the problems, but Murray is trying to find someone to get those 2 going.
And I dont mean just offensivley, I wonder if Heatley realizes there are 2 ends of the rink...
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E". |
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Guest9838
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Posted - 06/03/2009 : 13:58:54
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All those signings probably contributed to Sports Illustrated's naming of MLSE as the worst Ownership group in the NHL, and the Leafs as the most mis-managed team.
MSC,
Between Suter and Carle is fair, I think Suter is definately on the way up though. I'd say McCabe is into the Liles, Corvo territory, i.e. aging, power play specialists, with one time high expectations who never quite became elite, maybe even comparable to jovo in career peak. And you're right he's not totally useless still, I mean 39 pts in 69 games with a -1 last year. I'd give him a shot (anywhere but Toronto) if the price was no more than 4.0MM/year for no more than 2 years.
Wow... completely hijacked this thread. Sorry Rambo. |
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JOSHUACANADA
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Posted - 06/03/2009 : 14:44:00
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quote:
Originally posted by Guest8142
Mike Fisher brings home 4 mil, does that make him a star?
I happen to be on the trade for someone to pass to Fisher campain. If you watch this guy play you know he is capable of so much more. When Alfie Comes off the top line and plays with Fisher these 2 can make magic, but when push comes to shove every coach and GM re-unite's the cash line. Maybe it is time for Sens to cut Fisher. Sure wish we had Hossa back. |
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You're a GM....congrats! 
