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Axey
PickupHockey Pro
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 Posted - 06/03/2009 : 20:53:23
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Habs
Kovalev - Lang - Tanguay
A. Kostitsyn - Plekanec - S. Kostitsyn
Higgins - Lapierre - Latendresse
Laraque - Chipchura - Stewart
Call ups - D' Agostini, Maxwell, Pacioretty
Markov - Emelin
Bouwmeester - Gorges
Weber - Beauchemin
Ex - Breezer
Price - Halak
3rd - Kolzig (to mentor Price just like in Tri-city ) |
Edited by - Axey on 06/03/2009 21:01:59 |
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Posted - 06/04/2009 : 04:33:53
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Thanks for getting us back on topic, Axey. Unfortunately, it's with a team that will once again flop out of the first round, lol.
Boys, boys, BOYS!!! Stick to the topic - give us your team as "GM", your thoughts on other teams posted, but please, enough with the nitpicking and sidetracking . . .
"Take off, eh?" - Bob and Doug |
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Sensfan101
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Canada
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Posted - 06/04/2009 : 04:59:46
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Alfredsson Spezza Heatley
Shannon Fisher Foligno
Neil Comrie Ruutu
Donovan Bass Schubert
Karlsson Kuba
Volchenkov Phillips
Smith Campoli
Leclaire Auld
You miss 100 percent of the shots you don't take Wayne Gretzky |
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Rambo2305
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Canada
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Posted - 06/04/2009 : 06:25:58
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quote:
Originally posted by Axey
Habs
Kovalev - Lang - Tanguay
A. Kostitsyn - Plekanec - S. Kostitsyn
Higgins - Lapierre - Latendresse
Laraque - Chipchura - Stewart
Call ups - D' Agostini, Maxwell, Pacioretty
Markov - Emelin
Bouwmeester - Gorges
Weber - Beauchemin
Ex - Breezer
Price - Halak
3rd - Kolzig (to mentor Price just like in Tri-city)
I completely forgot Beauchemin is a free-agent! He is easily one of the more underrated players out there..
"Most people spend time and energy going around problems, rather than trying to solve them" - Henry Ford |
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Posted - 06/04/2009 : 08:42:04
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bouwmeester will play 27 mins on any team he goes too, If you have markov and Bouwmeester, it might be better to not go after another high priced dman in Beauchemin and concentrate on more rugged forwards. I'm also liking PK Subban in a couple years to be a fixture on the blue line.
Not sure who Emelin is, but I'm guess it's a pretty decent prospect to be on your top pairing, Mtl aslo has O'Byrne on contract for another couple years. It's bold to go for a wholesale change on D though like you seem to be concentrating on, you're letting go Komisarek, Bouillon, Dandenault, Schneider, and Brisebois. I think more change has to happen up front though for sure.
There's some decent affordable UFA forwards out there who could work and bring something to Mtl i.e. Kyle Calder, Mark Bell, Travis Moen, Andrew Peters. |
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Guest2269
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Posted - 06/04/2009 : 08:45:05
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hockster I am with you man the roster that you have for the falmes is the best but It would be nice if they could keep Cammelleri. I would just change the first line and second line.
Line 1 Burt jokinen Iginla |
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Guest8241
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Posted - 06/04/2009 : 09:10:46
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quote:
Originally posted by Guest9838
bouwmeester will play 27 mins on any team he goes too, If you have markov and Bouwmeester, it might be better to not go after another high priced dman in Beauchemin and concentrate on more rugged forwards. I'm also liking PK Subban in a couple years to be a fixture on the blue line.
Not sure who Emelin is, but I'm guess it's a pretty decent prospect to be on your top pairing, Mtl aslo has O'Byrne on contract for another couple years. It's bold to go for a wholesale change on D though like you seem to be concentrating on, you're letting go Komisarek, Bouillon, Dandenault, Schneider, and Brisebois. I think more change has to happen up front though for sure.
There's some decent affordable UFA forwards out there who could work and bring something to Mtl i.e. Kyle Calder, Mark Bell, Travis Moen, Andrew Peters.
P.K. Subban will be a solid D-man in the NHL. Don't be surprised to see him in the 40-60 Point range in a few years. Why are the Habs so deep on the point? Souray, Streit, then Markov. Next up, Subban! |
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Axey
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 06/04/2009 : 11:28:22
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Originally posted by Guest8241
quote:
Originally posted by Guest9838
bouwmeester will play 27 mins on any team he goes too, If you have markov and Bouwmeester, it might be better to not go after another high priced dman in Beauchemin and concentrate on more rugged forwards. I'm also liking PK Subban in a couple years to be a fixture on the blue line.
Not sure who Emelin is, but I'm guess it's a pretty decent prospect to be on your top pairing, Mtl aslo has O'Byrne on contract for another couple years. It's bold to go for a wholesale change on D though like you seem to be concentrating on, you're letting go Komisarek, Bouillon, Dandenault, Schneider, and Brisebois. I think more change has to happen up front though for sure.
There's some decent affordable UFA forwards out there who could work and bring something to Mtl i.e. Kyle Calder, Mark Bell, Travis Moen, Andrew Peters.
P.K. Subban will be a solid D-man in the NHL. Don't be surprised to see him in the 40-60 Point range in a few years. Why are the Habs so deep on the point? Souray, Streit, then Markov. Next up, Subban!
Also a McDonough and Weber (Big shot), I like the D for years to come. Emelin is a playing in the Super league this year and is basically a Komisarek, not many points but big hits and blocked shots. He has been in the system long enough, time to bring him up. P.K will play soon but not this year, O`Byrne is absolute garbage and I can`t deal with him until I see him do something good and not bad for the team.
As for the forwards, it isn`t bad you have to remember the brothers had bad seasons and Pleks didn`t even come close to what he can. I have faith, I had to make it realistic and well basically had to keep it in the cap hit with some space to move if needed. I wanted to sign Gaborik but that is a unrealistic and for Bob to sign 3 UFA`s that are highler end is well basically a dream. Two isn`t as bad. |
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Sensfan101
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Posted - 06/04/2009 : 13:00:54
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Okay I just relized that definately won't be the roster Neil won't resign and with an abundance of defencemen I think Kuba will be traded
Anybody have a guess who for?
quote:
Originally posted by Sensfan101
Alfredsson Spezza Heatley
Shannon Fisher Foligno
Neil Comrie Ruutu
Donovan Bass Schubert
Karlsson Kuba
Volchenkov Phillips
Smith Campoli
Leclaire Auld
You miss 100 percent of the shots you don't take Wayne Gretzky
You miss 100 percent of the shots you don't take Wayne Gretzky |
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JOSHUACANADA
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 06/04/2009 : 13:12:55
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| Kuba just signed this year and was the most productive D-man offensively. He ain't going anywhere unless they get great return. My money is on a shift/trade in the top 3 and a goalie being used for trade bait. You are right they are strong on D, but that is defensive minded D-men. They need to pick up a puck moving D-man to Quarterback the powerplay |
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Matt_Roberts85
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Canada
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Posted - 06/04/2009 : 13:38:29
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Im going to try and be as realistic as I can for my Leafers...
These lines aren't in any particular order...
Forwards
Kulemin - Grabovski - Ponikarovski
Blake - Bozak - Tlusty
Hagman - Cammalleri - Stempniak
Moen - J.Mitchell - Mayers
(Stajan takes a roster spot if he isn't dealt, Stefanovich could crack lineup if he has an amazing camp, most likley headed to Marlies along with Hanson, Stalberg, DiDomenico and Brayden Schenn ^_^)
Potential spares: May, Deveraux, Hamilton
Defence
Kaberle/Kubina - Ohlund
Van Ryn - White
Schenn - Finger
(ive gotta think one of kaberle/kubina will be dealt, for what, I have no clue... I dont think the Leafs get JayBo, Ohlund is a little more realistic..)
Callups/Spares: Stralman, Oreskovic, Frogren
Goalies
Toskala
THE MONSTER!
Its hard to do this when you know full well Burke will make a couple deals that you don't see coming, as well as a free agent signing you wouldnt expect.
There is no "I" in team, but there is an "M" and an "E". |
Edited by - Matt_Roberts85 on 06/04/2009 13:52:00 |
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hockster
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 06/04/2009 : 13:56:04
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Heres another one and a trade to back it uphttp://www.pickuphockey.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6471&whichpage=2
Calgary Trades:
Miika Kipprusoff(5.8)
Vandermeer (2.3)
Primeau(1.4)
7th rounder 2009
(9.5)
(To)
LA Trades:
Bernier(.8)
Doughty(3.4)
Stoll(3.6)
(7.8 TOTAL)
LA gets a Vezina winner to make their weakest area better. They gain a vetern D-man in Vandy which they continually said they needed last year as well as his tough presence and fighting ability. In primeau they get a solid vertern line 4er who brings decent skating and PKing.
Flames get a top notch goalie prospect to tandem with irving in the nhl. They get a stud d-man prospect. In stoll they get a great shot and faceoff man but really just take on some LA salary as his best days are gone with his concussion problems.
Its a risk but flames solidify there D and add to their forwards.
LA picks up a great possibility to make the playoffs as kipper has carried teams before. They also take on 1.7 in salary but they are way below the minimum already so this works well.
Borque(1.35) Langkow (4.5) Iginla (7) 12.85
Stoll(3.6) Jokinen (5.25) Boyd (.9) 9.75
(STOLL TAKES DRAWS)
Glencross (1.2) Conroy (1.05) Moss(1.3) 3.55
Nystrom (.688) Fiddler(1) Peters (.6) 2.288
Chucko (.8) two way
TOTAL: 29.238
AHL Call Up's
1.Greentree
2.Backlund
3.Van Der Gulik
4.Nemisz
5.Sutter
6.Armstrong
Phaneuf (6.5) Bouwmeester (5.75) 12.25
Regehr (4) Doughty (3.4) 7.4
Giordano (1) Sarich (3.6) 4.6
Pardy (.9)
TOTAL: 25.15
AHL Call Up's
1.Negrin
2.Aulie
3.Palin
4.Baldwin
Bernier(.8)
Irving(.8)
AHL Call Up's
1. Keetley
TOTAL: 1.6
TEAM TOTAL: 55.988
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Posted - 06/04/2009 : 15:33:53
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| LA wont trade Doughty |
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lyall
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Posted - 06/05/2009 : 09:12:07
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Kovalchuk - Horcoff- Hemsky
O'Sullivan - Gagner- Kotalik
Penner- Cogliano- Pisani
Moreau - Pouliot - Stortini
Scratches: Macintyre, Brule, Potulny
Souray - Visnovsky
Gilbert- Grebeshkov
Smid- Staios
Scratches: Chorney, Peckham
Fernandez
Deslauriers
"I Was So Happy I Gave Kerry Fraser A Hug" -Bill Guerin |
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Guest8571
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Posted - 06/05/2009 : 15:46:06
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quote:
Originally posted by lyall
Kovalchuk - Horcoff- Hemsky
O'Sullivan - Gagner- Kotalik
Penner- Cogliano- Pisani
Moreau - Pouliot - Stortini
Scratches: Macintyre, Brule, Potulny
Souray - Visnovsky
Gilbert- Grebeshkov
Smid- Staios
Scratches: Chorney, Peckham
Fernandez
Deslauriers
"I Was So Happy I Gave Kerry Fraser A Hug" -Bill Guerin
DUMB *** are you seriously kidding me??
you cant get Kovalchuk for no players and ATL wouldnt trade him... this guy has no clue |
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JOSHUACANADA
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Posted - 06/05/2009 : 16:31:16
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quote:
Originally posted by Guest8571
quote:
Originally posted by lyall
Kovalchuk - Horcoff- Hemsky
O'Sullivan - Gagner- Kotalik
Penner- Cogliano- Pisani
Moreau - Pouliot - Stortini
Scratches: Macintyre, Brule, Potulny
Souray - Visnovsky
Gilbert- Grebeshkov
Smid- Staios
Scratches: Chorney, Peckham
Fernandez
Deslauriers
"I Was So Happy I Gave Kerry Fraser A Hug" -Bill Guerin
DUMB *** are you seriously kidding me??
you cant get Kovalchuk for no players and ATL wouldnt trade him... this guy has no clue
Unless you think roli for kovalchuk and the next 20 years of 1st round picks is gonna happen.....yah I dont think so either. |
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Guest4128
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Posted - 06/05/2009 : 23:10:44
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The leafs sign Gustavsson, Bouwmeester, Havlat, and Cammalleri. Then trade kaberle, Stempniak and our 7th overall pick for Lecavalier. Then trade Kubina for whatever we can get, to dump salary.
Line 1: Cammalleri-Lecavalier-Havlat
Line 2: Hagman-Grabovski-Kulemin
Line 3: Blake-Bozak-Poni
Line 4: Mitchell-Stajan-Mayers
D1: Van Ryn-Bouwmeester (played in Florida together)
D2: White-Schenn
D3: Finger-Oreskovic
G:Toskala-Gustavsson
This might put the leafs a little bit over the salary cap in which case they can put blake in the minors. So, What do u guys think? |
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JOSHUACANADA
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Posted - 06/06/2009 : 09:24:21
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quote:
Originally posted by Guest4128
The leafs sign Gustavsson, Bouwmeester, Havlat, and Cammalleri. Then trade kaberle, Stempniak and our 7th overall pick for Lecavalier. Then trade Kubina for whatever we can get, to dump salary.
Line 1: Cammalleri-Lecavalier-Havlat
Line 2: Hagman-Grabovski-Kulemin
Line 3: Blake-Bozak-Poni
Line 4: Mitchell-Stajan-Mayers
D1: Van Ryn-Bouwmeester (played in Florida together)
D2: White-Schenn
D3: Finger-Oreskovic
G:Toskala-Gustavsson
This might put the leafs a little bit over the salary cap in which case they can put blake in the minors. So, What do u guys think?
Great choices, Leafs go from a group of good prospects with lots of cap space to a 1 line team which is overpaid (Lecavalier) undersized (Cammalleri)and injury prone (Havlat). And while your at it you still have a gaping hole at net, your over the cap so you cant make mid season adjustments. |
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Guest4384
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Posted - 06/06/2009 : 13:59:17
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Oilers
Cogliano Horcoff Hemsky
Kovalev Gagner Perry (Trade for Penner)
Moreau MacIntyre Pisani
Reddox Brodziak Stortini
Souray Schenn
Vishnovsky Gilbert
Grebeshklov Staiols
Lehtonen
Deslauriers |
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hockster
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
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Posted - 06/06/2009 : 16:00:43
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lmao perry for penner
maybe tyler perry off house of pain
and you ahve him second line when he would be your best player tyed with hemmer |
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lyall
PickupHockey Pro
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Posted - 06/06/2009 : 19:13:58
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quote:
Originally posted by Guest8571
quote:
Originally posted by lyall
Kovalchuk - Horcoff- Hemsky
O'Sullivan - Gagner- Kotalik
Penner- Cogliano- Pisani
Moreau - Pouliot - Stortini
Scratches: Macintyre, Brule, Potulny
Souray - Visnovsky
Gilbert- Grebeshkov
Smid- Staios
Scratches: Chorney, Peckham
Fernandez
Deslauriers
"I Was So Happy I Gave Kerry Fraser A Hug" -Bill Guerin
DUMB *** are you seriously kidding me??
you cant get Kovalchuk for no players and ATL wouldnt trade him... this guy has no clue
My bad. I thought Kovalchuk was a UFA this season. But I do believe he will get traded because he wont stay in ATL, so it would be stupid not to trade him and just let him walk. So I change my team to:
Kovalchuk - Horcoff- Hemsky
O'Sullivan - Gagner- Kotalik
Penner- Cogliano- Pisani
Moreau - Pouliot - Stortini
Scratches: Macintyre, Brule, Potulny
Souray - Visnovsky
Peckham-Grebeshkov
Smid- Staios
Scratches: Chorney
Fernandez
Deslauriers
To EDM: Kovalchuk. To ATL: Gilbert, Shremp, First round 09 Second round 10
"I Was So Happy I Gave Kerry Fraser A Hug" -Bill Guerin |
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lyall
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Posted - 06/06/2009 : 19:18:36
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quote:
Originally posted by Guest4384
Oilers
Cogliano Horcoff Hemsky
Kovalev Gagner Perry (Trade for Penner)
Moreau MacIntyre Pisani
Reddox Brodziak Stortini
Souray Schenn
Vishnovsky Gilbert
Grebeshklov Staiols
Lehtonen
Deslauriers
Why is cogliano playing the wing? Why is Macintyre the 3rd line center? He couldn't win a face off against Boogard. And how did schenn get on the team?
"I Was So Happy I Gave Kerry Fraser A Hug" -Bill Guerin |
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hockster
PickupHockey Pro
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Posted - 06/06/2009 : 20:38:07
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Weelin roster
1.Trade aucoin and cammy's rights to florida for conditional 5th if aucoin signs, third if cammy does, or just one 2nd if they both do.(ASSUMING WE GET THE 2nd)
2.trade vandermeer to LA for their third
3. Hamhuis(nas) and fiddlers rights(nas) for LA third(2) and ottawa 2nd (1)
4.sign colton orr for 1 million 2 yrs (.5 cap hit)
5. sign Brion Gionta 15 million 4yrs. (cap hit of 3.75)
Gionta (3.75) Langkow (4.5) Iginla (7) 15.25
Borque(1.4) Jokinen (5.25) boyd(.9) 7.55
Glencross (1.2) Conroy (1.05) Moss(1.3) 3.55
Nystrom (.688) Fiddler(1) Orr(.5)/Chucko(.7) 2.8
Total: 29.15
AHL Call Up's
1.Greentree
2.Backlund
3.Van Der Gulik
4.Nemisz
5.Sutter
6.Armstrong
Phaneuf (6.5) Hamhuis(2) 8.5
Regehr (4) Sarich (3.6) 7.6
Giordano (1) Pardy (.9) 1.9
Pelech(.8).8
Total: 18.8
AHL Call Up's
1.Negrin
2.Aulie
3.Palin
4.Baldwin
Kipprusoff(5.8) 5.8
Mchelliney (.5).5
TOTAL: 6.3 million
AHL Call Up's
1.Irving
2.Keetley
TOTAL TEAM: 54.25
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Sensfan101
PickupHockey Pro
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Posted - 06/07/2009 : 05:18:08
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Sens trade Kuba for Campbell and sign Hudler
Heatley Spezza Alfredsson
Shannon Fisher Hudler
Foligno Comrie Ruutu
Donovan Kelly Bass
Karlsson Campbell
Volchenkov Phillips
Smith Campoli
Leclaire
Auld
Winchester, Schubert
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Beans15
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Posted - 06/07/2009 : 07:37:28
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OK, let's look at my Oiler Line Up.
1) Kotalik($2.5 million), Bouwmeester($6 million), and Peca ($1 million) as UFA signings.
2) Trade Visnovksy, Horcoff, Schremp, and 1st round pick in 10 or 11 for Kovalchuk.
(At this point, the Oilers would be around $9 million under the current cap)
3) Resign Grebeshkov(Long term deal), Strudwick(short 1 to 2 years), and Roloson (short 1 to 2 years)
Kovalchuk - Gagner - Hemsky
Kotalik - Cogliano - O'Sullivan
Moreau - Peca - Pisani
Penner - Brodziak - Stortini
Souray - Bouwmeester
Grebeshkov - Gilbert
Smid - Strudwick
Roloson
Deslauriers
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hockster
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Posted - 06/07/2009 : 09:36:51
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| make shremp eberle beans and you probably got a deal |
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lyall
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Posted - 06/07/2009 : 09:45:26
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quote:
Originally posted by Beans15
OK, let's look at my Oiler Line Up.
1) Kotalik($2.5 million), Bouwmeester($6 million), and Peca ($1 million) as UFA signings.
2) Trade Visnovksy, Horcoff, Schremp, and 1st round pick in 10 or 11 for Kovalchuk.
(At this point, the Oilers would be around $9 million under the current cap)
3) Resign Grebeshkov(Long term deal), Strudwick(short 1 to 2 years), and Roloson (short 1 to 2 years)
Kovalchuk - Gagner - Hemsky
Kotalik - Cogliano - O'Sullivan
Moreau - Peca - Pisani
Penner - Brodziak - Stortini
Souray - Bouwmeester
Grebeshkov - Gilbert
Smid - Strudwick
Roloson
Deslauriers
I like this team. but there are a couple of problems
1. Visnovsky has a no trade clause.
2. Horcoff at best a 2nd line center, but he is our best center man. neither Gags nor Cogs are ready for that task. Plus if we loose Horc that mean we never win a face off.
3. Re have to pay to re-sign Brodziak and Smid
4. What happened to Staios?
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Guest8571
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Posted - 06/07/2009 : 11:37:33
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quote:
Originally posted by Guest4128
The leafs sign Gustavsson, Bouwmeester, Havlat, and Cammalleri. Then trade kaberle, Stempniak and our 7th overall pick for Lecavalier. Then trade Kubina for whatever we can get, to dump salary.
Line 1: Cammalleri-Lecavalier-Havlat
Line 2: Hagman-Grabovski-Kulemin
Line 3: Blake-Bozak-Poni
Line 4: Mitchell-Stajan-Mayers
D1: Van Ryn-Bouwmeester (played in Florida together)
D2: White-Schenn
D3: Finger-Oreskovic
G:Toskala-Gustavsson
This might put the leafs a little bit over the salary cap in which case they can put blake in the minors. So, What do u guys think?
I pity the fool who thinks Leafs will sign 4 of the top 5 free agents.
i literally was rofling when i saw this hahahhaha you got no clue! |
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hanley6
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Posted - 06/07/2009 : 17:54:33
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Blake, Tavares, Hagman
Stempniak, Stajan, Ponikarovsky
Mitchell, Grabovski, Hanson
Williams, Bozak, Hamilton
Schenn, Kaberle
White, Van Ryn
Finger, Stralman
#1 Gerber
backup Kolzig |
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Guest8571
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Posted - 06/07/2009 : 22:27:03
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quote:
Originally posted by hanley6
Blake, Tavares, Hagman
Stempniak, Stajan, Ponikarovsky
Mitchell, Grabovski, Hanson
Williams, Bozak, Hamilton
Schenn, Kaberle
White, Van Ryn
Finger, Stralman
#1 Gerber
backup Kolzig
finally someone who realizes the Leafs or Oilers wont get every single UFA or good young play/draft prospect for nothing
but still questioning seriously how you will get Tavares....unlikely! |
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Guest0908
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Posted - 06/07/2009 : 23:05:11
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I think the leafs should not make a multi-year big splash in free agency, like burke says they will. They should keep rebuilding get another high draft pick next year and go for Taylor Hall. Also try and trade either or both kubina and kaberle for picks and prospects and if we trade them replace them with stralman and oreskovic. If we can't sign Gustavsson keep Gerber as backup or promote Pogge, even though i don't thing he is ready yet.
Line 1: Poni-Grabovski-Kulemin
Line 2: Hagman-Bozak-Tlusty
Line 3: Blake-Mitchell-Hanson
Line 4: Mayers-Stajan-Stempniak
D1: Schenn-Kaberle
D2: White-Kubina
D3: Finger-Van Ryn
G:Toskala, Gustavsson
commments or questions?
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Guest0908
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Posted - 06/07/2009 : 23:06:02
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I think the leafs should not make a multi-year big splash in free agency, like burke says they will. They should keep rebuilding get another high draft pick next year and go for Taylor Hall. Also try and trade either or both kubina and kaberle for picks and prospects and if we trade them replace them with stralman and oreskovic. If we can't sign Gustavsson keep Gerber as backup or promote Pogge, even though i don't thing he is ready yet.
Line 1: Poni-Grabovski-Kulemin
Line 2: Hagman-Bozak-Tlusty
Line 3: Blake-Mitchell-Hanson
Line 4: Mayers-Stajan-Stempniak
D1: Schenn-Kaberle
D2: White-Kubina
D3: Finger-Van Ryn
G:Toskala, Gustavsson
commments or questions?
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Guest4658
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Posted - 06/08/2009 : 03:32:19
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Line 1: Kovalchuk-Kesler-Demitra
Line 2: Antropov-Hodgson-Burrows
Line 3: Larose-Neidermayer-Bernier
Line 4: Hordichuk-Johnson-Rypien
D1: Neidermayer-Mitchell
D2: Salo-Bieksa
D3: Edler-Davison
G: Luongo, Labarbera |
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Beans15
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Posted - 06/08/2009 : 08:56:57
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quote:
Originally posted by lyall
quote:
Originally posted by Beans15
OK, let's look at my Oiler Line Up.
1) Kotalik($2.5 million), Bouwmeester($6 million), and Peca ($1 million) as UFA signings.
2) Trade Visnovksy, Horcoff, Schremp, and 1st round pick in 10 or 11 for Kovalchuk.
(At this point, the Oilers would be around $9 million under the current cap)
3) Resign Grebeshkov(Long term deal), Strudwick(short 1 to 2 years), and Roloson (short 1 to 2 years)
Kovalchuk - Gagner - Hemsky
Kotalik - Cogliano - O'Sullivan
Moreau - Peca - Pisani
Penner - Brodziak - Stortini
Souray - Bouwmeester
Grebeshkov - Gilbert
Smid - Strudwick
Roloson
Deslauriers
I like this team. but there are a couple of problems
1. Visnovsky has a no trade clause.
2. Horcoff at best a 2nd line center, but he is our best center man. neither Gags nor Cogs are ready for that task. Plus if we loose Horc that mean we never win a face off.
3. Re have to pay to re-sign Brodziak and Smid
4. What happened to Staios?
"I Was So Happy I Gave Kerry Fraser A Hug" -Bill Guerin
1 - Visnovksy having a no trade clause is news to me. He got traded last year from LA to Edmonton and he went on record as saying he will play where ever he is asked to play but would have prefered to stay in LA because of his family. I don't think he has a no trade clause, but I might be wrong.
2 - Horcoff is an amazing 2nd line centre. Barely a 1st line centre. Which is exactly what Gagner and Cogliano are. There is no negative lost to Horcoff leaving when you consider the upside of Kovalchuk. Plus, you must have missed the signing of Peca as your #1 face off guy. He's always near the top of the league. The line of Moreau, Peca, and Pisani are more than enough shutdown/PK that a team needs. Plus, you have Brodziak's line if needed.
3 - You are right, Smid and Brodziak would both be resigning in the off season, along with Strudwick, Grebeshkov, and Roloson.
4 - What did happen to Staios??? He's a defensive liability. Always near the worst in turn overs league wide. He has the heart of a lion, so I would like him play out the last year of his contract, but he would be the 7th defensemen on my Oilers squad.
(Hockster, you are definately right. Eberle in that deal and it's done. I just want to offload Schremp because the 3 year project of him finding a passion for the game and a passion to improve has failed. He is not an NHL guy and I don't think he ever will be. I will leave him in the trade, and maybe put in a guy like Polutny or maybe Dubnyk. I really don't want to give up Eberle as I think with Cogliano and Gagner, there is some serious talent for the long term Oilers.) |
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lyall
PickupHockey Pro
360 Posts |
Posted - 06/08/2009 : 10:31:04
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No I agree with you about Staios I just wanted t know if you traded him or what?
And Visnovsky had singed a contract extension With LA witch officially went into effect July 1 2008. He was traded June 29. Thats why he was so surprised about the trade.
I also see you point with Horcoff, But I just don't think Gagner is up to the task. But you do have Cogs and O'sullivan to move around in that top center stop.
And Don't you just love the idea of Kovalchuk with Hemsky? Man seriously that would be one of the most lethal duos in the NHL.
"I Was So Happy I Gave Kerry Fraser A Hug" -Bill Guerin |
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JOSHUACANADA
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 06/09/2009 : 09:58:02
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I think there is still a hole in net though. Rolli is good and has ironmaned in net last year, but you just assembled a great team. Now you want to give it to an aging (never won anything) goalie. A goalie who has never been considered top 10, who has lost his starting job on at least 2 occasion to younger goalies and to a unproven prospect goalie the keys to the franchise.
If it were me I'd at least make a call to Kolzig and secure a second proven goalie for cheap. |
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Beans15
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Posted - 06/09/2009 : 11:17:07
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Originally posted by JOSHUACANADA
I think there is still a hole in net though. Rolli is good and has ironmaned in net last year, but you just assembled a great team. Now you want to give it to an aging (never won anything) goalie. A goalie who has never been considered top 10, who has lost his starting job on at least 2 occasion to younger goalies and to a unproven prospect goalie the keys to the franchise.
If it were me I'd at least make a call to Kolzig and secure a second proven goalie for cheap.
Ok, this never won anything comment is annoying. Let's take a quick look at how many current NHL goalies have "won something" as a starter(this is off thet top and by something I mean the Cup):
Brodeur
Osgood
Ward
Khabibulin
Giguere
So, of the 30ish starting goalies in the league today, 5 have won the Cup. Does that mean the other 25 goalies are weak?? C'mon. Roloson was, head and shoulders, the best Oiler last season, as an aging, never won anything goalie. He was more successful than any goalie from teams who did not make the playoffs and equal to or better than some that did make the playoffs.
There is a reason everyone wants a top 10 goalie. It's because there are only 10 of them in the world! Roloson is as close to that as you can get without selling the farm. Above this, Roloson is better than any UFA goalie out there. So how do you expect the GM of the Oilers(yours truly) to go out and get a top 10 goalie without completely gutting my team.
I'll take my chances with Roloson in net. Before his injury in 05, he played brilliant playoff hockey and is coming off arguable his best season as a pro. It's wouldn't be a long or big dollar contract, but he would get 1-2 years at about $3 million/season. Definately fair market value and worth the money.
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hockster
PickupHockey Pro
Canada
437 Posts |
Posted - 06/09/2009 : 11:33:28
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HEATLEY TRADE ROSTER
flames trade:
Vandermeer (2.3)
Cammy's Rights(to replace heatley on the wing)
Nemisz(top prospect)
Boyd(High potential nhl caliber player)
Langkow(solid center averages 60 points per year)
1st rounder
for
heatley
2nd rounder
Sign J william for 2
sign semenov for .7
Heatley(7.5) Williams(2) Iginla(7) 16.5
Borque(1.4) Jokinen (5.25) Knuble (2) 8.65
Glencross (1.2) Conroy(1) Moss(1.3) 3.5
Nystrom (.688) Peters(.6) Chucko(.6)/Orr(.7) 2.58
TOTAL: 31.23
AHL Call Up's
1. Backlund
2Greentree
3.Van der Gulik
4.Sutter
5.Armstrong
Phaneuf (6.5) Giordano (1) 7.5
Regehr (4) Sarich (3.6) 7.6
Pelech(.7)/Semenov (.7) Pardy (.9) 2.3
TOTAL:17.4
AHL Call Up's
1.Negrin
2.Aulie
3.Palin
4.Baldwin
Kipprusoff(5.8) 5.8
Mchelliney (.5).5
TOTAL: 6.3 million
AHL Call Up's
1.Irving
2.Keetley
TOTAL TEAM: 54.93
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lyall
PickupHockey Pro
360 Posts |
Posted - 06/10/2009 : 12:09:31
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Okay so over the last couple days i've done my homework, With the idea of Heatley coming to Edmonton, and also I heard that the NYI and TBL both want Hedman. Supposedly if NYI take Hedman #1 The TBL would be willing to make a trade and the Oil are trying to move up in the draft. Also the TBL do not want to spend more than $48M on Salary this year but would want a defenseman in exchange for their #2 pick. All that being said this is my updated 09/10 Oilers team:
Trade: Horcoff, Gilbert, Nillson, For Heatley.
Trade: Schremp, Staios, Grebeshkov, 10 overall 09 For 2nd Overall 09
Resign: Brodziak for 1M. Smid 1.5M. Strudwick 0.65M. Roloson 2M
Sign: Bouwmeester 6M
Heatley 7.5 - Gagner .875 - Hemsky 3.6 |11.975
Eberle .875 - Tavares .875 - Cogliano .85 |2.6
Penner 4.25 - O'Sullivan 4 - Pisani 2.5 |10.75
Moreau 1.75 - Brodziak 1 - Stortini .7 |3.45
Scratches: Macintyre .55
Jacques .55
Brule .765
Souray 5.5 - Visnovsky 7 |12.5
Bouwmeester 6 - Peckham .585 |6.585
Smid 1.5 - Strudwick .65 |2.25
Scratches: Chorney .735
Roloson 2
Deslauriers .7
Total salary: 55.41
Now I just hope Quinn and Renney can teach the kids to win face offs.
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JOSHUACANADA
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
2308 Posts |
Posted - 06/10/2009 : 13:26:08
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| Hey beans how bout Backstrom, Vokoun, Bryzgalov, Miller and Rinne. Dont know if these guys compare to Rolli on your list but they do on mine and most other peoples lists. All non playoff goalies in the prime of there career who I would trust with the keys to the Arena. I'm not saying get rid of Rolli just get someone cheap to backseat him for 1-2 million like Auld, Kolzig, Labarbera or Niittymaki. Outside of that I wholeheartedly agree with the rest of your team cept now Heatly instead of Kovalchuk |
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You're a GM....congrats! 
