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1 Crosby fan
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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 Posted - 04/29/2007 : 15:29:34
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WHOO RANGERS WON  well that was a good game tho, yea it did look like really wanted to win(Jagr) i did never see him play like that too
Viktor Kozlov is my hero |
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manninm
PickupHockey Pro
USA
347 Posts |
Posted - 04/30/2007 : 06:13:14
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Originally posted by 1 Crosby fan
WHOO RANGERS WON well that was a good game tho, yea it did look like really wanted to win(Jagr) i did never see him play like that too
Viktor Kozlov is my hero
don't worry, Jagr will coast through game 4 and 5 and cost them the series...
Because the demands on a goalie are mostly mental, it means that for a goalie, the biggest enemy is himself." ~Ken Dryden |
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tds1
Top Prospect
USA
23 Posts |
Posted - 04/30/2007 : 08:54:14
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WHAT? Jagr was a man on fire yesterday and has been crashing the net the entire series. Granted, he's not the same jagr of the Pens era, but he still demands attention whether on the puck or skating into the slot. I do agree that Jagr has a tendancy to stroll along, but I think he's out to prove something this post season.
This last game should have never even been in OT, Rachunek's drive to the net should have been a goal... That was the second crappy call by Toronto in this series, not to mention lack of penalty calls by the zebras!... The first was the Pominville "punch the puck in the net with his glove" move in the 1st game. That was clearly a punch in, and you cant say he was trying to "protect" himself from crashing into the net...Horse crap, then the same could be said for the Rangers player who was trying to "stop" and didnt kick the puck at all. (A distinct kicking motion...as the rule states!) I just want consistancy, and this isnt it.
How can Toronto even justify taking away a goal that the on ice ref clearly calls a goal, and grant a goal the on ice ref clearly disallows... What the F**K is the purpose of having these guys? Hell, call the penalties from Toronto too, save money on refs and lower ticket prices.
I'm really interested in game 4 now. Concerned it will be Toronto giving even more of an advantage to Buffalo... They are scarey good on offense and dont need the help from the office...Game 1 was a lot closer than the 5-2 score until that 3-2 deficit went to 4-2 the rangers were starting to come out of hibernation... bad call broke their backs, but I look to them to take the series in 7...Defensively, they are solid as long as they stay healthy and out of the box.
Dont like what I have to say? You must be a buffalo fan!!!!!! Good luck and God Speed you to the Off Season! LOL
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don't worry, Jagr will coast through game 4 and 5 and cost them the series...
Because the demands on a goalie are mostly mental, it means that for a goalie, the biggest enemy is himself." ~Ken Dryden
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bablaboushka
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Canada
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Posted - 04/30/2007 : 09:13:19
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I don't cheer for either team so consider me a neutral party:
I think the right call was made on Rachunek's goal. Whether he was trying to stop or direct the puck in, I think there was a motion of moving the puck forward and the right call was made. Kotalik should have gotten a hooking penalty however, but I'm sure that was lost in all the controversy surrounding the goal. As for Pominville's goal... The ref called it a goal on the ice right? I can't remember, but I'm pretty sure he did because the Sabres were celebrating afterwards. Anyways, after seeing the replays, I don't think there was any clearly conclusive replay that showed EXACTLY what the puck hit before it went in. From one replay it looked like it hit him in the stomach, from another it appeared to be the hand, from another the knee... If they can't prove that it hit something that it shouldn't have (glove, skate), then I think it's supposed to count.
As for the lack of penalties last night, you have to be kidding me. The Rangers were diving all over the ice and a couple of those calls were made by the crowd. If they weren't diving, they were embellishing. I thought it was almost embarrassing to watch. Sure Buffalo could have been called a few times, but NYR could have been called an equal amount of times for diving. I think the less PP's you give Buffalo, the better so consider yourself lucky the refs didn't call more both ways because they easily could have. |
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jbraiter
PickupHockey Pro
577 Posts |
Posted - 04/30/2007 : 09:21:31
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Come on Canucks even it up tommorow
Go Canucks Go |
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tds1
Top Prospect
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23 Posts |
Posted - 04/30/2007 : 10:22:38
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bablaboushka...
As for the Ref on the Pominville goal... he washed it out right away saying he gloved it in...Buffalo was merely celebrating early, probably knowing they would get the Toronto call on inconclusive eveidence...Which is supposed to go to the call on the ice, but in this case was reversed. I dont know how they can reverse a call on inconclusive evidence, but they did.
And the Rachunek goal...I see the argument, but you have to realize that I'm a Rangers fan and have to think they missed one there. I couldn't see a "distinct Kicking Motion" in his movement, and unlike the old days, players are allowed to "direct" the puck into the net with their skates. Bad call on both, but I guess you take what you can get... 1 win out of three and hopefully better games up the road.
I did see some dives, but I did see a lot more penalties called in Buffalos favor for some pretty shotty stuff, and things that were right in front of the Ref that didnt get called. I will admit to my biased nature, so just chalk this up to Bi***ing Rangers fan. I know, That's Hockey! LOL
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Mikhailova
PickupHockey All-Star
USA
2918 Posts |
Posted - 04/30/2007 : 12:10:21
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Rangers fans...get over Rachunek's "goal". Your team won anyway, it doesn't really matter what the call was. But when Buffalo wins the series, THEN you can complain 
You should've seen Bill Clement, Brett Hull, and Ray Ferraro all arguing over that goal...it was hilarious. |
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manninm
PickupHockey Pro
USA
347 Posts |
Posted - 04/30/2007 : 13:10:39
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Originally posted by Mikhailova
Rangers fans...get over Rachunek's "goal". Your team won anyway, it doesn't really matter what the call was. But when Buffalo wins the series, THEN you can complain
As for Pominville's goal, you lost 5-2, not 3-2. It may have made a difference, but not likely. The Sabes wouldn't have allowed the 2nd Ranger goal if the Pommy goal was disallowed. Also, if I do say so myself, and I do, I think last night's whine-fest is proof that NYC Metro fans are the most uneducated hockey fans in the NHL. Every time a Ranger got touched they were up in arms. It's hockey - It's a contact sport. Man up, grow a pair, and go out there and hit someone.
As for Jagr, I'm pretty sure he wasn't skating in the first two games. I highlight the Zubrus hit when he limped off the ice into the dressing room, acting like he was injured, and promptly returned for the third. No one's questioning his talent. When he's driven (like he was last night), he's one of the best, if not the best, in the league. But he's always been a sporadic player. The question is how long until he gets hit and quits on the team?
Because the demands on a goalie are mostly mental, it means that for a goalie, the biggest enemy is himself." ~Ken Dryden |
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semin-rules
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Canada
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Posted - 04/30/2007 : 18:51:48
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2-0 Ottawa!!! Emery played really well and so did Brodeur, but Ottawa walked away with the big "W"
~~~~~Great season Stars, better luck next year~~~~~ |
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tds1
Top Prospect
USA
23 Posts |
Posted - 05/01/2007 : 07:47:59
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manninm......
The fans in NY were a bit loud every time something happened, but that's what fans do. Sometimes they dictate a game and call a penalty for their team, it's actually pretty smart, if it may only happen once per series, but it could be a crucial call. As for your comment about the 5-2 loss, not 3-2, i dont argue the loss, but the score at the time of PomPom's goal (great player), the score was 3-2, Pommy's goal made it 4-2, just a fact, and things like that can contribute to a team losing their fighting drive, even though a Pro should be able to overcome... it was simply a statement about the officiating more than NY losing to Buff... Everyone knows how scarey good Buff is so it's not like i'm B****ing about their play, just the calls made back in the Main office. They clearly missed them...CLEARLY! If you cant admit to that, then your blind and have less Hockey sense than those NY Metro fans you talk about. Evryone knows Hockey is a "full" contact sport, and that's one of the reasons we all love it. and there is no way you can say that one of the Original 6 teams fans know nothing. That's just rediculous...LOL
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manninm
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Posted - 05/01/2007 : 19:21:56
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Originally posted by tds1
manninm......
The fans in NY were a bit loud every time something happened, but that's what fans do. Sometimes they dictate a game and call a penalty for their team, it's actually pretty smart, if it may only happen once per series, but it could be a crucial call. As for your comment about the 5-2 loss, not 3-2, i dont argue the loss, but the score at the time of PomPom's goal (great player), the score was 3-2, Pommy's goal made it 4-2, just a fact, and things like that can contribute to a team losing their fighting drive, even though a Pro should be able to overcome... it was simply a statement about the officiating more than NY losing to Buff... Everyone knows how scarey good Buff is so it's not like i'm B****ing about their play, just the calls made back in the Main office. They clearly missed them...CLEARLY! If you cant admit to that, then your blind and have less Hockey sense than those NY Metro fans you talk about. Evryone knows Hockey is a "full" contact sport, and that's one of the reasons we all love it. and there is no way you can say that one of the Original 6 teams fans know nothing. That's just rediculous...LOL
NY Rangers in "07"
My response:
1) They weren't loud. They were booing every time a Rangers player got touched. I will say this, they were much better tonite.
2) Pommy made it 4-1. The Rangers made it 4-2 with under a minute left. I was there. I should know.
3) The calls they made have been pretty good all series, including game 4. There was NO evidence to overturn the Pominville goal, like there was none to overturn the Sabes potential game tieing goal tonite. The Rachunek goal was a 50/50...you could go either way on it. His skate made a clear turn while going forward, whether that itself is a kicking motion is debatable.
4) And before you start making personal attacks, get your facts straight. As stated before, Pom's goal in game 1 was to make it 4-1, not 4-2. Do your research, bud. And as far as the original six comment, I know plenty of original six fans who know nothing...they're called Leafs fans! j/k...that comment is ridiculous in itself. A fan proves he has knowledge by what he says and does, not by what team he cheers for.
Because the demands on a goalie are mostly mental, it means that for a goalie, the biggest enemy is himself." ~Ken Dryden |
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PENSFAN8771
Rookie
USA
114 Posts |
Posted - 05/01/2007 : 19:57:16
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| That was a goal tonight with 17 seconds left. I have no doubt. The camera from above is slightly slanted and if it were really directly over, it would have been clear that the puck was in the net. I should still be watching OT of that game. Lindy Ruff ought to be furious. Video replay got this one terribly wrong and it probably cost Buffalo the game. |
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bablaboushka
PickupHockey Veteran
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Posted - 05/01/2007 : 20:04:40
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| They shouldn't have had to rely on that to save them. Where were they the other 59.75 minutes of the game? |
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PainTrain
PickupHockey Veteran
Canada
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Posted - 05/01/2007 : 20:17:11
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| The Sabres have got to start hitting more. It's been costing them this whole series and they need to generate more offence because the way Lundquist is playing they need to shoot a lot and crash the net and screen. |
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Saku Steen
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Posted - 05/02/2007 : 16:17:58
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The Sabres have got to start hitting more. It's been costing them this whole series and they need to generate more offence because the way Lundquist is playing they need to shoot a lot and crash the net and screen.
Thats for sure! Buffalo is playing so soft on these guys. |
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Mikhailova
PickupHockey All-Star
USA
2918 Posts |
Posted - 05/02/2007 : 16:31:37
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| Yeah seriously. C'mon, crush 'em into the boards, shoot past Lundqvist and WIN GAME 5!!! They'll be back in Buffalo for the next one so they'll probably win it. The Rangers won't have all their MSG fans yelling in the background to cheer them on. After losing the last two games and blowing a 2-0 series lead, Buffalo is sure not gonna play soft tomorrow. |
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GOWINGS19
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Posted - 05/03/2007 : 00:43:25
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big comeback for the wings tonight....thank god haha it was a pretty intense games...how about that anaheim game i think its tonight...they closin out the series or what?
You find that you have peace of mind and can enjoy yourself, get more sleep, and rest when you know that it was a one hundred percent effort that you gave - win or lose. -Gordie Howe |
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Mikhailova
PickupHockey All-Star
USA
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Posted - 05/03/2007 : 12:11:24
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I had a feeling they'd win it, and good thing they did 'cause I predicted they would in the playoff point race game.  I want the Wings to win the series, but I think SJ will. |
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GOWINGS19
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Posted - 05/03/2007 : 12:13:36
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haha nice nice yeah well i hope they get out of this series with a win but san jose is absolutely relentless in their backchecking and forechecking ...but it seems at given points of the game the wings take it over so hopefully they can capitalize
You find that you have peace of mind and can enjoy yourself, get more sleep, and rest when you know that it was a one hundred percent effort that you gave - win or lose. -Gordie Howe |
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manninm
PickupHockey Pro
USA
347 Posts |
Posted - 05/03/2007 : 12:49:19
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ya I'm psyched for the game tomorrow in Buffalo. I think one of the reasons Buffalo was unsuccessful in NY was because of the ice. Slow, sloppy ice prevents a team like Buffalo from playing their game, which relies on speed and crisp, quick passes. Buffalo's ice, while not the greatest, is markedly better than MSG's. This combined with Buffalo actually playing 60 minutes of inspired hockey will ultimately give the Sabes the decisive W ( I hope).
Because the demands on a goalie are mostly mental, it means that for a goalie, the biggest enemy is himself." ~Ken Dryden |
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Mikhailova
PickupHockey All-Star
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Posted - 05/03/2007 : 12:54:15
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I noticed that too manninm. The ice at MSG seemed wetter than usual, as if it had been Zambonied one too many times. With too much slushy stuff and excess water, it gets slippery and players (fast ones in particular, like Buffalo's) have trouble skating. Of course the Rangers are used to it since they play there half the time, so they didn't have so much of a problem.
Back in Buffalo + better ice + no MSG fans to cheer the Rangers on = a win for the Sabres!! |
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semin-rules
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Canada
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Posted - 05/03/2007 : 14:23:51
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The Rangers stadium is also not on ground level, it's 3 or 4 stories up, there is department stores and shops underneath.
~~~~~Great season Stars, better luck next year~~~~~ |
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Mikhailova
PickupHockey All-Star
USA
2918 Posts |
Posted - 05/03/2007 : 18:03:27
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| After tonight, the announcers should hopefully not have to fumble with the "Ducks and Canucks" verbiage...Anaheim's gonna end the series! Say adios, Nucks fans! |
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1 Crosby fan
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Canada
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Posted - 05/03/2007 : 21:25:48
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Well Mik it's still anyones game but if they lose i am proud of them and especially Dany Sabourin wow did you see him make those stops just wow
My Birthday is tomorrow YEA i want a gift from everyone on Pick-up Hockey lol |
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1 Crosby fan
PickupHockey Veteran
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Posted - 05/03/2007 : 21:48:04
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Oh man that was a good game, but better luck next year and NOW GO WINGS AND DEVILS GO
Good Playoffs Canucks Better luck next season now i cheer the WINGS AND DEVILS GO |
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semin-rules
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Canada
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Posted - 05/04/2007 : 05:10:03
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That was a good game had by all, it's too bad that Luongo thought that there was a penalty so he raised his hand then the shot was taken. It's to bad, but you can't change the past. Better luck next year Canucks!
~~~Don't focus on where your going, focus on where you going to go~~~ |
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Mikhailova
PickupHockey All-Star
USA
2918 Posts |
Posted - 05/04/2007 : 13:43:19
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Ok, a moment of silence for the grieving Canucks fans...
Well that's over with! GO SABRES!!!!!!!!! I've been looking forward to this game all day! Time for us to regain our lead on the Rangers, and, with Gaustad back now, hopefully make it a good win. |
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Mikhailova
PickupHockey All-Star
USA
2918 Posts |
Posted - 05/04/2007 : 18:07:56
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Grrr why can't the Sabres score a goal?? They've been scoreless in the first 2 and a half periods the past three games! But at least NYR's scoreless this time too
C'mon Buffalo, show 'em who's boss! |
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GOWINGS19
Rookie
USA
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Posted - 05/04/2007 : 18:16:31
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ouch thats tough goal called off
"I don’t need to score the goal. I need someone to start thinking about me and forgetting about scoring goals." -Vladmir Konstantinov |
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GOWINGS19
Rookie
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Posted - 05/04/2007 : 18:31:32
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atta boy drury!!!!!!
"I don’t need to score the goal. I need someone to start thinking about me and forgetting about scoring goals." -Vladmir Konstantinov |
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Mikhailova
PickupHockey All-Star
USA
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Posted - 05/04/2007 : 18:47:32
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| OHH YEAH! DRURY SCORES WITH 8 SECONDS LEFT!!! The Sabres HAVE to win this now. Let's try to end it in 1 OT, too. Otherwise I'll be here till midnight. |
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Mikhailova
PickupHockey All-Star
USA
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Posted - 05/04/2007 : 18:56:44
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YEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!! AFINOGENOV SCORES AND THE SABRES WIN!!!
Max you rule. |
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GOWINGS19
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Posted - 05/04/2007 : 22:12:45
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not gonna lie that game was pretty amazing way to pull it out sabres...they dug deep and got the W
"I don’t need to score the goal. I need someone to start thinking about me and forgetting about scoring goals." -Vladmir Konstantinov |
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Mikhailova
PickupHockey All-Star
USA
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Posted - 05/05/2007 : 16:15:19
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Great game by Detroit today! 4-1 over the Sharks. SJ always scores the early goal(s), but sometimes winds up blowing the lead and losing. I'm starting to think maybe the Wings have a shot at winning this. Did you see that goal Nabokov let in? He was completely out of his net trying to swat the puck away and couldn't get back in in time! So Datsyuk took it and scored. Nice!
And of course there were the octopi again. Real ones and stuffed ones. Zetterberg picked up a real one and threw it at someone in the crowd, lol. |
Edited by - Mikhailova on 05/05/2007 16:27:59 |
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Mikhailova
PickupHockey All-Star
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Posted - 05/06/2007 : 14:20:40
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To all here who thought NYR would win the series--
SCOREBOARD!!
BUF 5 - NYR 4
Told ya
Never doubt the Sabres |
Edited by - Mikhailova on 05/06/2007 14:21:04 |
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GOWINGS19
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Posted - 05/06/2007 : 19:34:33
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Detroit is always in it mik haha
"I don’t need to score the goal. I need someone to start thinking about me and forgetting about scoring goals." -Vladmir Konstantinov |
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tds1
Top Prospect
USA
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Posted - 05/07/2007 : 09:58:50
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Congrats Buffalo fans to a great series...Even though I may have thought things were done poorly at times, it was still a great series and never dull that is for sure... And for the guy who corrected me about the Pominville goal, you are correct, it was a 4 to 1 difference...But before you go gloating you have a little something on your lip...Semin...LOL Even tho them Rangers are out, i'm still a fan and I'll still be watching...Just dont know who to root for now...Ottowa or the Ducks...
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manninm
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USA
347 Posts |
Posted - 05/07/2007 : 10:26:10
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Originally posted by tds1
Congrats Buffalo fans to a great series...Even though I may have thought things were done poorly at times, it was still a great series and never dull that is for sure... And for the guy who corrected me about the Pominville goal, you are correct, it was a 4 to 1 difference...But before you go gloating you have a little something on your lip...Semin...LOL Even tho them Rangers are out, i'm still a fan and I'll still be watching...Just dont know who to root for now...Ottowa or the Ducks...
NY Rangers in "07"
Great series indeed. I think every Buffalo fan underestimated the Rangers' team defense. They played very well. And I have no reason to gloat. The Sabes still have 8 wins to go before I start gloating.
Because the demands on a goalie are mostly mental, it means that for a goalie, the biggest enemy is himself." ~Ken Dryden |
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bablaboushka
PickupHockey Veteran
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Posted - 05/07/2007 : 12:05:30
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Originally posted by Mikhailova
Great game by Detroit today! 4-1 over the Sharks. SJ always scores the early goal(s), but sometimes winds up blowing the lead and losing. I'm starting to think maybe the Wings have a shot at winning this. Did you see that goal Nabokov let in? He was completely out of his net trying to swat the puck away and couldn't get back in in time! So Datsyuk took it and scored. Nice!
Shades of Toskala from last year, with Samsonov intercepting it...
That's two GWG that were the direct result of Nabokov failing to clear the puck. Now I realize that Detroit is leading (for now), but you have to realize how lucky they are. If Nabokov doesn't give the puck away to Zetterberg in Game 2 and the play doesn't continue in the zone as it did, Datsyuk doesn't score, the Wings don't win and this series could have been 3-1 coming out of SJ. Now I'm not suggesting that SJ is outplaying Detroit cause they aren't, but one reversed mistake and we could be having an all-Pacific Conference Final starting tomorrow. |
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Mikhailova
PickupHockey All-Star
USA
2918 Posts |
Posted - 05/07/2007 : 15:51:13
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| Jagr moved ahead of Yzerman yesterday for career playoff goals...he now has 72. Yeah Jagr! ...I mean, Jeah Jagr! |
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